Kids playing guns - can we discuss? (Page 2)
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lisac957 - 2012-12-18 8:59 AM GomesBolt - 2012-12-15 7:34 PM My $0.02. I would bet that even in ancient China, two little boys picked up sticks and started pretending they were swords. Boys pick up anything and pretend it's a gun. The Nerf thing is harmless. Video games where you shoot and kill people probably have a worse impact. I understand your concern, but I think you're ok there. Stirring the pot a bit here - but curious on the bolded point. How is it so different? I ask because after consulting with my sister, I bought my nephews a Call of Duty (Black Ops 2?) game for their Xbox for Christmas. They had asked for it, and supposedly the game has options where you can turn down or off the blood/guts stuff. My sister, who is typically pretty anti all of this stuff, is perfectly okay with it (which surprised me a little) after learning about the parent options. The boys are 9 and 12 if that makes a difference. I can't say why gbolt would say video games are worse...but in my opinion, I think some kids become desensitized from the violence, blood, etc. I have never play Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto and we do not allow out kids to play any video games that are violent. However, I don't have a problem with the toy guns...even airsoft guns. I just don't believe playing a game where you kill people is a game I want my kids to have any part of. It's getting harder though as my son that is 11 has friends that play these games. We were at a party just this past weekend where he felt left out cause all the other boys were playing COD. |
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![]() | ![]() rayd - 2012-12-18 10:34 AM lisac957 - 2012-12-18 8:59 AM GomesBolt - 2012-12-15 7:34 PM My $0.02. I would bet that even in ancient China, two little boys picked up sticks and started pretending they were swords. Boys pick up anything and pretend it's a gun. The Nerf thing is harmless. Video games where you shoot and kill people probably have a worse impact. I understand your concern, but I think you're ok there. Stirring the pot a bit here - but curious on the bolded point. How is it so different? I ask because after consulting with my sister, I bought my nephews a Call of Duty (Black Ops 2?) game for their Xbox for Christmas. They had asked for it, and supposedly the game has options where you can turn down or off the blood/guts stuff. My sister, who is typically pretty anti all of this stuff, is perfectly okay with it (which surprised me a little) after learning about the parent options. The boys are 9 and 12 if that makes a difference. I can't say why gbolt would say video games are worse...but in my opinion, I think some kids become desensitized from the violence, blood, etc. I have never play Call of Duty, Grand Theft Auto and we do not allow out kids to play any video games that are violent. However, I don't have a problem with the toy guns...even airsoft guns. I just don't believe playing a game where you kill people is a game I want my kids to have any part of. It's getting harder though as my son that is 11 has friends that play these games. We were at a party just this past weekend where he felt left out cause all the other boys were playing COD. So when they shoot each other with the nerf guns, are they just play-wounding? Not play-killing? Not trying to be snarky, just trying to understand. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() lisac957 - 2012-12-18 11:42 AM So when they shoot each other with the nerf guns, are they just play-wounding? Not play-killing? Not trying to be snarky, just trying to understand. For us, when you're "nerfed", you're "out", not shot or wounded or killed. Just "out for this round". Don't get me wrong, it takes a LOT of reinforcement with the words to make it this way and I'm so weird about it. But that's how I roll.
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bigfuzzydoug - 2012-12-18 9:57 AM lisac957 - 2012-12-18 11:42 AM So when they shoot each other with the nerf guns, are they just play-wounding? Not play-killing? Not trying to be snarky, just trying to understand. For us, when you're "nerfed", you're "out", not shot or wounded or killed. Just "out for this round". Don't get me wrong, it takes a LOT of reinforcement with the words to make it this way and I'm so weird about it. But that's how I roll.
x2. Nerf is kinda like dodgeball around our house. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tuwood - 2012-12-18 10:07 AM pilotzs - 2012-12-18 9:00 AM tuwood - 2012-12-16 12:08 PM I echo what the others are saying, I think boys will be boys in our culture and to shelter him from it would be futile at best. A little bit on the same topic I think every parent should teach their kids about gun safety. Even if there are no guns in "your" house there are guns in other peoples houses. If my kids go to somebodies house and somebody brings out Dads gun I want my kids to know that it's unsafe and get the heck out of dodge. I also echo what everyone has said. To expand on the point above, I had a friend in high school, who's brother was over at a friends house. They decided they were going to play with a shotgun, thinking it was not loaded. Well, you guessed it, it was loaded and went off, shooting my friends brother. I believe it was a buckshot, and he had a lot of them in him. He ended up fine. Although you may never have a real gun in your house, it's still best to educate your children about them and the harm they can do. It's best not to shield them from them, real (educating) and toy (playing with them). I have two boys, 6 & 7, and they play guns, swords, etc. I try to tell them not to point them at people, etc. We watch some movies together that may have some sword fights, etc, but they know what is real and what isn't, and we educate them on the difference, and always make the point that real guns, swords, knives, etc can harm/hurt people. They are good to separate reality from play/movie. I do not want them playing FPS video games, probably EVER, as I see those as being far worse. When I was younger, we played guns, etc all the time. Cowboys and Indians, etc. I had a full army uniform from the local surplus, complete with helmet, water bottle, fatigues, back pack and everything. We spent hours in the woods playing army, guns, etc. And, I've never owned a gun. Although I've considered one for protection as an adult, I go back and forth whether I want one in my house or not. I feel if I get one, I will have to tell my kids about it and teach them about it. I'm not sure I"m ready for that. That reminded me of when I was 12 years old, we had a similar incident. I had a pellet gun that was hanging up on a gun rack in the living room. It was "empty" and I was in the other room doing something, I can't remember. Well one of my friends grabbed the pellet gun and pumped it up and was shooting air at people. Well apparently there was a loose pellet still in there somewhere and he shot a kid in the back of the head with a pellet. Blood was everywhere and we all freaked out (me more than others). The pellet lodged in his skull just before it hit the important stuff so he was ok, but it's yet another example of kids needing to know gun safety. Ha, reminded me of my own incident. I was about 8-9 yo, and a neighborhood boy shot me with a BB gun in the stomach. Hurt like hell at the time. Luckily didn't puncture or create any problems. Boy was my mom peeved. I think she had a chat with that boys mom. As for the video games. I don't believe it's the game in and of itself. Yes, they can be violent, and I've played some myself, just never got into them. The strategy is more entertaining to me than any of the "Killing". I think the problem is more with the kids getting too into them and spending hours playing them, doing nothing but seeing how many people they can shoot (with or without blood). I think this can lead to some anti-social behaviors, that may not otherwise cause issues in some kids (not all). If I ever let my kids play them, there will be a severe time limit on how much time they are allowed to play them. |
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