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2012-12-17 11:48 PM
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Next you're going to tell me that in 20 years we'll have millions of people going around farming, planting and harvesting pumpkins and strawberries and whatnot. Thanks a lot, Zynga!


2012-12-18 12:36 AM
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TriathletePT - 2012-12-17 5:39 PM I think playing a FPS is one thing, but when kids/people play online against other people, with whom they are communicating with via headset, and they kill them in a game, they could more easily associate with killing a real person. The person they just shot in the game was talking, and probably talking trash to them. So, they get mad, hunt that person down and use whatever means available in the game to take them out. You do that as a full time job, and if you aren't a little out of touch with reality to begin with, you might get that way fast.

No.....just no.

My kids and their friends have Call of Duty tournaments......they have "air soft" wars....they have paintball birthday parties....they cried with me when they heard about the Sandyhook massacre...give them some credit.  

They and their friends will be the people who stand up in the future and make a stand against bullies and hatred.  Don't make the same mistake our parents made about us and the music we listened to.

I'm sorry.....hell no!  These are good kids.....and a video game doesn't change that. They know the difference between a game and life....believe it.  

The kids that have a problem with it have problems period.....deal with their problems.

2012-12-18 5:40 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-12-18 1:36 AM

TriathletePT - 2012-12-17 5:39 PM I think playing a FPS is one thing, but when kids/people play online against other people, with whom they are communicating with via headset, and they kill them in a game, they could more easily associate with killing a real person. The person they just shot in the game was talking, and probably talking trash to them. So, they get mad, hunt that person down and use whatever means available in the game to take them out. You do that as a full time job, and if you aren't a little out of touch with reality to begin with, you might get that way fast.

No.....just no.

My kids and their friends have Call of Duty tournaments......they have "air soft" wars....they have paintball birthday parties....they cried with me when they heard about the Sandyhook massacre...give them some credit.  

They and their friends will be the people who stand up in the future and make a stand against bullies and hatred.  Don't make the same mistake our parents made about us and the music we listened to.

I'm sorry.....hell no!  These are good kids.....and a video game doesn't change that. They know the difference between a game and life....believe it.  

The kids that have a problem with it have problems period.....deal with their problems.




I wasn't calling out your kids specifically. And you said "These are good kids". Good for you for raising good kids....there are plenty out there who aren't. Who play COD just wishing it was real.
2012-12-18 5:53 AM
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If you ever get a chance to read "On Killing" by Lt. Col. Dave Grossman it sheds a huge amount of light on the psychology of killing.  He was a Psychologist who worked at Westpoint and developed a lot of the programs the military uses to wear down the Human instinct not to kill.

The reason I mention him is the reference to videogames and violonce. In his prologue of the above book, he speaks to the dangers of some videogames today and the violence in them.  He in fact states that the same techniques they developed for soldiers to kill are found in these videogames.  He is a vocal opponent of many of the killing video games today because he see's his own work in them and the potential for disaster.

His book on exactly that matter:

http://www.killology.com/book_stop_summary.htm

His website:  www.killology.com   Anyone who trains in Krav Maga, or other similar fighting systems, LEO, or military his books are an excellent insight.



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2012-12-18 6:41 AM
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I'm not putting blame on the video games themselves.  I think that a normal kid is not going to become a murderer because of video games.

However I'll share a personal story.  I was a gamer when I was younger and in college.  I stopped playing after college.  I then had a had and got back int some of the non violent games (racing games, Nintendo stuff etc..)  We also has a PS3.

A friend lent me one of the Call of Duty games.  It was set in Vietnam and you are walking thru the jungle shooting at the VC.  Then one jumps out of a tree.  The game instructs you to hit some combo of buttons.  You pull out your knife and bury it in this guys head.  Blood spurts everywhere.

I turned off the game and gave it back.  I don't need images like this

Call me old fashioned but I think filling your head with horrible images is not the best thing to do.  Especially to developing minds.

2012-12-18 8:46 AM
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TriathletePT - 2012-12-18 5:40 AM
Left Brain - 2012-12-18 1:36 AM

TriathletePT - 2012-12-17 5:39 PM I think playing a FPS is one thing, but when kids/people play online against other people, with whom they are communicating with via headset, and they kill them in a game, they could more easily associate with killing a real person. The person they just shot in the game was talking, and probably talking trash to them. So, they get mad, hunt that person down and use whatever means available in the game to take them out. You do that as a full time job, and if you aren't a little out of touch with reality to begin with, you might get that way fast.

No.....just no.

My kids and their friends have Call of Duty tournaments......they have "air soft" wars....they have paintball birthday parties....they cried with me when they heard about the Sandyhook massacre...give them some credit.  

They and their friends will be the people who stand up in the future and make a stand against bullies and hatred.  Don't make the same mistake our parents made about us and the music we listened to.

I'm sorry.....hell no!  These are good kids.....and a video game doesn't change that. They know the difference between a game and life....believe it.  

The kids that have a problem with it have problems period.....deal with their problems.

I wasn't calling out your kids specifically. And you said "These are good kids". Good for you for raising good kids....there are plenty out there who aren't. Who play COD just wishing it was real.

I know that, and I wasn't talking about my kids specifically.  I have 5 kids.....because of that I know hundreds and hundreds of kids.  I have no worries about the future of this country, and any idea that we are somehow raising people who are desensitized to violence or killing because of video games is just not something I have seen in today's kids......in fact, I see just the opposite. 



2012-12-18 9:20 AM
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I'm not worried about the future of our country b/c of video games either. I worry about the tragedies that continue to happen and the envelope that continues to be pushed farther and farther in all media (TV, video games, social media, movies). What line will be crossed next? Every lunatic wants to one up the previous lunatic.
2012-12-18 9:43 AM
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Left Brain - 2012-12-17 10:36 PM

TriathletePT - 2012-12-17 5:39 PM I think playing a FPS is one thing, but when kids/people play online against other people, with whom they are communicating with via headset, and they kill them in a game, they could more easily associate with killing a real person. The person they just shot in the game was talking, and probably talking trash to them. So, they get mad, hunt that person down and use whatever means available in the game to take them out. You do that as a full time job, and if you aren't a little out of touch with reality to begin with, you might get that way fast.

No.....just no.

My kids and their friends have Call of Duty tournaments......they have "air soft" wars....they have paintball birthday parties....they cried with me when they heard about the Sandyhook massacre...give them some credit.  

They and their friends will be the people who stand up in the future and make a stand against bullies and hatred.  Don't make the same mistake our parents made about us and the music we listened to.

I'm sorry.....hell no!  These are good kids.....and a video game doesn't change that. They know the difference between a game and life....believe it.  

The kids that have a problem with it have problems period.....deal with their problems.

+1

If every person who ever played a FPS became a killing maniac, everyone would be dead by now.  Over 11,000,000 copies of the latest Call of Duty (Black Ops 2) sold in the first week!  1 for every 30 Americans.  There were less than 15,000 murders last year, and only 8500 of them were with firearms.

Video games are not the problem.

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