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2006-02-17 11:58 AM
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tmwelshy - 2006-02-17 9:43 AM

I, for one, would never date an Oklahoman. Call me racist, a bigot or ignorant. I don't care. There are some things you just don't do.

Hey! My husband was born in Oklahoma (where the wind goes sweeping down the plains)! Are you judging me?! I have to say that it was a definite strike against him, but then I found out he grew up in Pennsylvania and niether of his parents were Oklahomans, so I let it slide.



2006-02-17 12:00 PM
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ChuckyFinster - 2006-02-17 10:52 AM
tmwelshy - 2006-02-17 8:43 AM

I, for one, would never date an Oklahoman. Call me racist, a bigot or ignorant. I don't care. There are some things you just don't do.

what about an Oklahowoman?

 

If she was into triathlon, was a tall georgeous dark haired athena, had a great smile and a wonderful, bright and witty personality... if she we independant, strong willed and exciting - if she were funny, had dazzeling eyes and made my heat beat faster, I'd do her.

 

...but dating her would be out of the questions as she's from Oklahoma.

2006-02-17 12:03 PM
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kimj81 - 2006-02-17 10:58 AM
tmwelshy - 2006-02-17 9:43 AM

I, for one, would never date an Oklahoman. Call me racist, a bigot or ignorant. I don't care. There are some things you just don't do.

Hey! My husband was born in Oklahoma (where the wind goes sweeping down the plains)! Are you judging me?! I have to say that it was a definite strike against him, but then I found out he grew up in Pennsylvania and niether of his parents were Oklahomans, so I let it slide.

 

Well, you're not from Texas so your already diluted and impure.

2006-02-17 12:24 PM
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I'm not personally from TX, but my mom is and my dad lived there for some substantial amounts of time. I guess I'm just a darn half-breed.

Restless- I can imagine how much it sucks. Part of it, I'm sure would be an issue of locality. If you're from someplace like Montana, where I live, you'd probably get stared at out of sheer novelty. I remember one night I saw 3 black guys at the grocery store (not in a group independently) and rushed home to tell my husband. I mean, that's a significant percentage of the state's African-American population. It might be silly, but people stare at stuff that they don't see often. So I'm sure some portion of the stares are innocent enough (though still rude).  

2006-02-17 2:03 PM
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I have the latest edition of the National Geographic here - The Greatest Journey Ever Told - The trail of our DNA.  Won't I have some smarty pants retort for the next "racial" comment after I read it?

My husband is an Asian man from South America who speaks Dutch - a combination that blows the american assumptions- my friends said our wedding looked like a scene from "Anna and the King".  (check out my photo album "for Annie".  We have no kids plannned, but they would have one serious head of hair if we did.

2006-02-17 2:05 PM
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kimj81 - 2006-02-17 9:24 AM

I'm not personally from TX, but my mom is and my dad lived there for some substantial amounts of time. I guess I'm just a darn half-breed.

Restless- I can imagine how much it sucks. Part of it, I'm sure would be an issue of locality. If you're from someplace like Montana, where I live, you'd probably get stared at out of sheer novelty. I remember one night I saw 3 black guys at the grocery store (not in a group independently) and rushed home to tell my husband. I mean, that's a significant percentage of the state's African-American population. It might be silly, but people stare at stuff that they don't see often. So I'm sure some portion of the stares are innocent enough (though still rude).



You're a big phat liar, everyone knows there are no black people in Montana. Quit makin stuff up.



2006-02-17 2:42 PM
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No. Really. THREE of them at least. Because they were all in the grocery store at once! It was some kind of cosmic convergence. For MLK Day, there was a panel discussion at the local Catholic college call "What it's like to be black in Helena, MT."  I really wanted to go, but couldn't make it. I thought that would be fascinating. I'd think you'd garner as many stares as if you had a 3rd arm growing out of your forehead. And mostly it would be from people who aren't the slightest bit racist, but are just so delighted or shocked to see a little diversity in Montana.
2006-02-17 2:49 PM
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2006-02-17 3:04 PM
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THis thread also reminded me... we grew up in Hong Kong (90% Chinese in population), and we saw quite some American/British - white people.  I went to a play school/day care type of place ran by a British woman (Mom wants me to learn English the proper way).  Besides me, there was an Indian guy (which I found strange), a white girl and a Japanese girl.  One day, there came a big Black man.  My little brother was there and got scared by that guy, cried.  Me, being the brave one, stared at him.  :p
2006-02-17 3:10 PM
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Oh, I just wanted to say that I don't think that the fact that people stare out of a sense of novelty makes it not rude. It's just much more innocent and hopefully forgivable than people who would stare at you because they have a problem. I have no idea why anyone would have an issue with an interracial couple! I can't think of anything less relevant!
2006-02-17 4:00 PM
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I can only assume that it is certain parts of the country that may still have a problem. I work with a hispanic guy who is married to a girl from Japan. He says they never have had any problems. He said even if he did notice something he wouldn't care because the ignorance of a few isn't going to ruin his relationship.



2006-02-17 4:12 PM
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We're a mixed marriage too.  Laurie is from East Louisiana, and I'm from West Louisiana.  We have to flash gang signs at each other to make sure the other one knows what's up.

Westside, beeeeotch!

2006-02-17 10:32 PM
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Opus - 2006-02-17 8:33 AM Wasn't it Will Smith who said he wanted Cameron Diaz as his love interest for Hitch, but then he said the American people weren't ready for a black/white interracial couple? So he got Eva Mendes instead.

okay, then why was "the Bodyguard" with Whitney Houston and Kevin Costner so successful?  And like ten years earlier too?

2006-02-17 11:14 PM
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Restless - so sorry to hear your troubles!  Interestingly enough, I am an Asian girl engaged to a white dude name Tom.  oh, the parallels!  haha.

 Anyway, I'm curious where geographically you're located - I'm sure that has a lot to do with it.  I think there are much fewer problems in large cities and often on the coasts.  I read once in a newspaper that the general consensus is that the most comfortable place to be an interracial couple is actually NYC, becasue there are so many that it's old news.

 I haven't had much trouble, though I do often wonder how many people just assume my man has an Asian fetish or that I'm supposed to fill some docile exotic wife role and stand pretty on his arm.  I do have Asian guy friends who jokingly (half-seriously?) joke about me marrying a white guy.

here is a video on google that talks about some of the disparities that celeb_ithil mentioned about how there are many more asian women and white men than asian men and white women.  it's kind of tongue-in-cheek and amusing.  filmed at UCSD in my hometown!  lots of asian people there. 

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2006-02-18 7:53 AM
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lisazapato - 2006-02-18 12:14 AM

here is a video on google that talks about some of the disparities that celeb_ithil mentioned about how there are many more asian women and white men than asian men and white women.  it's kind of tongue-in-cheek and amusing.  filmed at UCSD in my hometown!  lots of asian people there. 

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Interesting vedio.  I had a similar discussion with an asian single guy friend who was trying to look for asian girls only.  He has a valid point.  Having grown up in another country, we lack the common background with people who grew up in the U.S.  Some times it makes communication more difficult.  But anyhow, it has nothing to do with the outsiders.  No one should decide whether certain people's relationship is "acceptable" or not. 

2006-02-20 2:41 AM
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Restless - 2006-02-17 6:52 AM

  • .. with inter racial couples? I'm white and my fiancee is asian. Most of the time we can go out in public without incident. However, some times we come across people that are just plain ignorant. My fiancee (been in the US since she was 6 mos. old) is more 'americanized' than most people born in the US but people still say dumb things. They ask her if she speaks Chinese (she's Korean), they assume she's Chinese (she's Korean), and lots of times they talk down to her as if she doesn't understand anything. Then there are the 'looks'. After ten years in a relationship like this you're able to figure out who the people are who have a problem with your relationship.

  • I just wonder why, in the new global world we live in, people can still be so closed minded...

    Tom


    the chinese issue is just a common thing. if you are hispanic in florida they call u a cuban, in LA a mexican, in NY a puerto rican. i think the "mislabling" is just a common thing. after all when i was in kuwait i didnt get mad at the people who thought i was from england, or when i was in china and for some reason they thought i was german.

    the looks, people have veiws that they were raised with, and they will die with them. when i was in the army i remember one of my buddies parents came to visit, and we all (him, folks, and his freinds) went to dinner. after the introductions his mom leaned over and said "you didnt tell me sgt XXXX was black." to which he said "i didnt think it was something to mention." but what we can change is their KIDS!

    truely though each person has their own turn ons and offs. i know for me, i have no issues with african-americans, but i am not attracted to them. i wonder if when i see a WM and a BF if i might take an extra look just BC i dont understand His attraction to her. i wonder if as i ponder i have a "weird" look on my face, which they see as a "look."

    and when it comes to "close minded" casting judgments on others with out all the information (the other persons view, esp) and labeling someone who "might" of had racist views and judging them; well to me thats just as bad, the same as them.

    hear that, hammer and nails.. they are building a gallows in the town square....

    chop away!


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    I like black folks.
    I like white folks.
    I like all kinds of folks.

    Hairy people kind of bother me.

    Pre-judging people based on their looks, skin color, lycra outfit, whatever is pretty dumb.
    2006-02-20 10:00 PM
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    DerekL - 2006-02-17 4:12 PM

    We're a mixed marriage too.  Laurie is from East Louisiana, and I'm from West Louisiana.  We have to flash gang signs at each other to make sure the other one knows what's up.

    Westside, beeeeotch!

    Eastside in tha hizzouse!  I have to watch my back at all times...never know when the westside's coming.

    Sorry to hear about the stares and difficulties you guys face.  You must have a strong relationship to overcome everyone else's ignorance.  More power to ya!

    2006-03-09 5:13 PM
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    so, this past weekend i went down to NC to watch the duke/unc game.  while waiting for the game to start, i sat next to this girl and we began to chat.  she seemed nice and we made small talk, i mentioned my fiance used to go to duke and blah blah blah.  later i showed her a picture of him from my camera phone, and she goes, "ohhhh, you're one of those anglo-asian couples!"  she was all excited, said it in a tone that would have been appropriate for "ohhh, look you have a little labrador puppy!" or something.  and also, tom's not even anglo, but anyway.

     then she goes on to say, "my brother has this game - for evey asian girl/white guy couple you see, you add 1.  for every asian GUY/white GIRL couple you see, you subtract 10.  you'll always still come out positive."  the whole time i'm just like....ok....

    then i say, "heh, yeah...sometimes i feel a little self-conscious, i hope people aren't thinking like, oh you guys are another pair of THOSE." and she says, "oh, but that shouldn't matter."  and i say, "yeah...."  except then i realize that she's exactly the type of person that makes me self-conscious!  the first thing out of her mouth when she saw his picture was "oh you're one of those!"

     i don't think she meant harm, just so inappropriate.  like it matters what we are!  i wish i had said, "oh, and you and your husband are one of those white/white couples!  you know, i have a game too, for every white white couple you add 1, for every interracial couple you subract 50...you'll still come out positive."

    anyway, thought that was relevant to this thread. 

     this girl also had the gall to ask me how many carats were in my ring, after talking just a few minutes.  she also  later said, "i guess so" reluctantly when asked to take a picture for some people.  they responded, "well, you don't have to."  she sighs and says, "i'm really tired....but i'll take it." 

    and yet our convo started so nicely and she seemed like such a nice girl.  turns out she's socially clueless. 

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