Memo to Heisman Trophy Voters (Page 2)

DerekL - 2009-11-28 10:36 AM

Pointing out what happened in prior seasons also kills your credibility.  Like the OP said, this isn't a lifetime achievement award.

dustinschadt - 2009-11-28 8:48 AM

Still though, losing their best receiver and marching them on this year is a big deal. We have to agree that the results of the Nat'l championship game will play big into the results. Perfect season w/ nat'l championship = big deal. My big thing is getting folks to at least acknowledge that his non-numericals, his inspiration factor, make him incredible.

dustinschadt - 2009-11-28 9:04 AM The voting date also wouldn't matter if you're a UCLA fan. Ha! Just a friendly jab.

dustinschadt - 2009-11-28 9:11 AM Bro, I live in Louisville, Ky. Our team here is terrible. I'd love to be bowl eligible this year. As far as the Pac 10 goes, I'm for anyone that can potentially put a whoopin on USC.

BellinghamSpence - 2009-11-27 9:00 PM Kellen Moore of Boise State should get some votes.

dustinschadt - 2009-11-28 10:48 AM



Still though, losing their best receiver and marching them on this year is a big deal. We have to agree that the results of the Nat'l championship game will play big into the results. Perfect season w/ nat'l championship = big deal. My big thing is getting folks to at least acknowledge that his non-numericals, his inspiration factor, make him incredible.

uclamatt2007 - 2009-11-28 11:01 AM



Hmmm, that might make a difference if the Heisman was voted on after the National Championship....


....but it isn't.

Vince Young found that out the hard way.

JoshR - 2009-11-27 11:25 PM


Jahvid Best? He got shut down in back to back games against Oregon and USC.

Johners - 2009-11-28 11:05 PM Are you serious?

Colt should have won last year.  Give it to him this year.

uclamatt2007 - 2009-11-28 11:27 PM

I think Gerhardt is guaranteed a trip to New York now.

29 carries, 205 yards, 3 TDs

1 rec, 33 yds

1/1 passing, 18 yds, TD (on 4th and 4 on the 18 to tie the game with 8 minutes to go)

All on a nationally televised evening game

jacasa - 2009-11-29 5:19 AM I would like to see the kid win it, but he won't. Maybe if he would have cured cancer or solved the world hunger problem he would have won. How dare he or anyone else think they could win the Heisman on the football field.

JoshR - 2009-11-28 10:26 PM

Gerhart has to win the Heisman. He carried them to a nice win today and amassed over 200 yards rushing, 3 rushing TD, and a passing TD. He was demolishing all of the ND defense.

JBrashear - 2009-11-29 3:49 PM Since when did ND start playing defense?

uclamatt2007 - 2009-12-06 11:26 AM

Updated ballot
1. Gerhardt
2. Ingram
3. Spiller
4. Suh

Those 4 should be going to New York in my opinion.

JBrashear - 2009-12-06 11:37 AM I'd go with Suh, Colt, Gerhart, & Ingram in that order. The only reason Ingram is #4 is because I think Bama would still win 10+ games with either of the 2 RBs behind him in the DC. He's a great RB, but I think he's more replaceable w/ other guys on his team than the other 3. Suh is a f*cking beast & probably the best player in the list. It's like watching Reggie White play against a Pop Warner team most weeks.

uclamatt2007 - 2009-12-06 12:26 PM

Updated ballot
1. Gerhardt
2. Ingram
3. Spiller
4. Suh

Those 4 should be going to New York in my opinion.

uclamatt2007 - 2009-12-06 2:39 PM



You can really still put Colt in New York after his performance last night? His season stats are good, but his performance in big games has been pretty awful.

Oklahoma:
21/39 for 127 yards, 1TD/1INT, 14 carries for 33 yards

Nebraska:
20/36 for 184 yard, 0TD/3INT, 17 caries for -20 yards

I had to laugh whe one of the announcers said last night that even though his stats weren't that great, the current drive was what could make McCoy a Heisman winner. Part of the reason that they needed big plays late was how poorly he was playing. I believe that was right before his 3rd pick.

JBrashear - 2009-12-06 9:33 PM I look at the Heisman as a MVP award of sorts, and that's part of how I ordered my list. There's no question that if Colt was gone at the beginning of the year(to the pros or injury), Texas would have been somewhere around 7-5 or 8-4. None of the other finalists mentioned would have that large an impact on their team. I would argue that while last night & the OU game were big games, games like Oklahoma State(who gives Texas fits year in and year out) & A&M were nearly as big and Colt shined in both games. In fact, leading up to this game he had a series of 4-5 games where he was playing at '08 levels. Am I saying he should win it? Not really, but I think he deserves to be in NYC as a finalist. Nobody's really separated themselves this year, you can make solid arguments for several players. One thing that I think is an important note: nowhere in the Heisman guidelines does it say that the award is a seasonal award. If we're going based on a career, I think Colt tops that list. I also realize that most people treat it like a seasonal award rather than a career award, and I can understand that point of view. It would probably help if the Heisman people clarified the intent of the award, but they probably like the controversy.