Riots (Page 2)

hah, i was going to ask the exact question. 

So many people try to fix the symptoms while completely ignoring the actual root causes.  Out of wedlock births in the black community were under 20% in the 1960's and now it's over 70%.  Was it white privilege that caused that?
There is a culture problem in the black community and it's rooted in the loss of hope.  Our society drones on and on about how black people are "less than" and that they "can't succeed" so guess what?  Kids hear that and they give up before they've even started.  This isn't just isolated to the black community it's across all demographics in the poor community.  In my experience the people that pretend to care about the black community are always in front of the line talking them down and convincing them that everybody else is keeping them down.

You said he needed to fix inequalities.....I asked what inequalities.....I didn't say anything else. 

Here's the simple fact, we're all dealt a hand when we're born.  Some are born into wealthy families, some are born into poverty, some are born into addiction, some are born into abuse, some are born black, some are born white, etc.
America is one of the best places on earth that allows people who are dealt a rough hand to overcome that hand.  Most places you are doomed to whatever hand you were dealt, but in America you are not.  It's up to us as individuals to maximize our potential in our lives and it starts with the attitude of success.  If you believe you cannot be successful in life you dam sure are not going to be successful in life.  That doesn't mean everyone is going to be successful that wants to and it doesn't mean others won't try to get in your way, but it starts there.  So yes, if you have a poor outlook on your situation and make poor choices as a result you will just continue the generational cycle you were born into. 

I do a lot of work with inner city kids and there are many layers to the problem, but it all starts with attitude and hope IMHO.  There are so many programs available that virtually any black kid from the inner city can go to college for free if they want to, but why do do so few go?  They often choose to not go based on their beliefs and attitude about the world around them, not because they don't have opportunity.  "if you aim at nothing, you'll hit it every time" - Zig Ziglar

There WILL always be people who squander their opportunities....and today that IS the reason for inequality.  Nobody can fix that.

OK - lmao

This is all I have to say about that...........Synon,  the race relations expert can pontificate from here.

I don't know how this case will shake out, but it probably won't be enough.....because it will happen again. I'm just being realistic and rational.....it's a crazy job, and some people shouldn't be doing it, and some lose their minds as they go along because of all they see. And, to be fair, some people will always fight the police....it's the same constant.

We have to have law enforcement if we are going to be a nation of laws, and not lawlessness, and we have no choice but to choose them from among us. There is not a job on the planet that doesn't have problem employees.....the police will never be different. People have issues.....all people.

Until folks are willing to take each incident as it happens, and not try to lump all in the same barrel, again, in fairness, on both sides.....this is apparently what we'll get.

My biggest frustration with this deal, and I said on day one that many cops would suffer for what this dip-chit did, is that we all agreed. If that didn't help this time then I don't think we're going to be able to get past that when it happens again.....so this will just become the new deal. It's going to happen again................and again.

The protestors, and detractors, always want to know where the good cops are that agree when something is wrong.....here we are....made a big difference, huh?

For me.....a front row seat to life has been a great blessing.....if I could die and come back, I'm signing up again as soon as I get old enough.

I guess if I'm comparing him to other presidents, and other riots,  he called for national guard troops to be called up before Obama did....so a 10?

I think he's been about the same as other Presidents......

Let me know when we can rate Democrat Mayors of cities where violence has erupted, and Democrat Governors of the states of those cities.......this DOES fall on them you know?

I'm not much in the mood for playing the liberal "get Trump" game right now.

George Floyd did make decisions that didn't help the situation.  He allegedly was committing a crime which resulted on the police being called on him.  According to witnesses he began resisting arrest and refused to get into the car.  Fighting the police was a choice he made.  Unfortunately he made his choices in the presence of a cop that also had issues and made bad choices and we all know what happened from there.  There's an old saying when it comes to law enforcement interaction.  You can beat the rap, but you cannot beat the ride.  Don't EVER resist arrest no matter how innocent you are.

I don't deny that the police harass people of color, but I also don't deny that people of color commit a disproportionate amount of crime.  Is it a chicken or egg thing?  Should the police only investigate equal numbers of white and black people if one group is committing substantially more crime?  Of course not.

For the most part it's not about color at all, it's about poverty and desperation.  Many that commit crimes do it out of desperation and because they don't feel they have any other options in life.  Hell, when I was growing up poor I was quite the delinquent myself and was in and out of jail numerous times.  I can assure you, my color had nothing to do with my choices to do the things I did. 

It's not about being tone deaf, it's about looking for root causes and addressing them.  You seem to think we can leave the black community as is and just force the police and everyone else to just leave them alone and all will be well.  alrighty then. 

There's about 200 black people killed by the police every year.  The vast majority of those are justified.  It's hard to find exact data on how many result in charges against the police, but I bet you can count the number annually on one hand.
The way you talk every black man in America has a target on his back just waiting for the day to get killed by a racist cop.  it's astronomically rare. 

Bro, it's an election year....EVERYTHING is Dem/Rep......and this cycle it has been since the Presidents election.  The Dems have never accepted it.....it's pathetic.

Maybe if we made it illegal for a police officer to kill somebody like that it would stop it from happening.  Oh wait, it was already illegal.
I understand your passion on the topic and I agree that it would be great if there was never another person killed without cause again, but it's going to happen on rare occasions no matter what we do.  White people, brown people, black people, you name it are all killed by police every year and occasionally there are bad cops who do it when it shouldn't be done and they absolutely should be prosecuted when that happens. 

Where it gets dicey is there are many cases, and I'll venture to say most cases where the police officer is justified in killing a person but the public venom can't see that and treats the poor innocent man who was killed by the evil racist police as a martyr. 

I know poor black people is a completely separate issue of black people being killed by the police, but it's the root cause to the disproportionate number of black people being detained and arrested.  If we cut poverty in the black community in half I'd venture to say half of the black killings would go down and half of the police shootings would go down.  That's my only point in pivoting to that portion.  We can leave the community alone and leave the crime rates as is and try to focus on police techniques and laws, but it's only trying to focus on the symptoms while ignoring the underlying causes IMHO. 

I have mixed feelings.  I do agree that the national guard is the more appropriate entity to augment law enforcement with the crowds.  My trepidation is mostly from the military having a tendency to be more trigger happy when things get out of line.  The last thing we need right now is a dozen protesters shot and killed by the military. 

Thanks for putting some numbers to it.

I agree that people are losing their marbles over something that's so astronomically rare.  If you went to the protesters and asked 100 of them if we could reduce the instances down to 2 per 6 million encounters I'm betting they would all consider that a wild success and go home happy.