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2008-10-04 10:54 AM
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Subject: RE: Resting Heart Rate - What is Normal? Normal Ranges??
zomvito - 2008-10-04 11:40 AM

From what I understand is that RHR can be an indicator of greater fitness for an individual when compared to that same individual in a lesser fitness state... but comparing across persons is like comparing LT and zones.

 Anyway, elite athletes excel because they can push their LT into the high % range of MHR, with some reportedly having LTs at 90% MHR.

Exactly.  Well said.



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Daremo - 2008-10-04 11:31 AM

whether you have a RHR of 35 that determines how in shape you are, it is the overall range of HR availability you have and whether or not you can maintain a higher HR during an activity.  Those elites with a RHR in the 50 and 60 range also peak at or around 200+, so have a very wide range to work with.

RHR should be used as an indicator as to whether you are recovering enough or are sick or something.  That is the only reason to track it.  Just like max HR, it varies per an individual's genetics and their level of fitness.

Very interesting!!

I've also heard it said that a good indicator of how fit you are is how quickly your HR comes down after exercise or if it drops by so many bpm after 1 minutes. 

I believe it said something like, once you get your HR up to 75% or 80% of MHR and hold it there a couple of minutes. ... then stop exercising and count down 1 minute.

If after that 1 minute of rest if your HR comes back to some percentage of your MHR (or is it WHR - Working Heart Rate, is there such a thing ...??)

Anyhow, does anyone know what I'm talking about?

I think I don't have a very large range.  I have an Extremely hard time getting my HR about 150 and the highest I've been ever to get my HR is 156 bpm (that I know of and have been able to measure.)

So, if my RHR is around 54-56 and my max is 156 ... that is only a 100 point spread.

 

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How did you determine your Max. HR?
2008-10-05 10:07 PM
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Well,

I really don't know what I'm talking about and I know I must be using some terms incorrectly.  I was trying to read a thread about LT (the so-called master thread on Lactate Threshold) but I got too confused and still don't understand it.

I just use the old method of 220 - my age, times 75% or 80% or whatever .... and I'm just assuming that 220 - my age is my MHR.  For me that would be 220 - 43 = 177 for a Max Heart Rate.

Then at 75% my WHR (Working Heart Rate??) would be 132.75, at 80% 141.60, at 85% 150.45  (Hmm.... I never really calculated it out like that, always just guess-timated that 136 to 146 would be about where I need to train at ....)

But even using this old method, I still do not know exactly what to train at, 75%, 80%, 85% ??? 

I was in the gym a few months back and a trainer was working out one of her clients and I heard him say something about getting his HR up to 166 or 175 or maybe even 180 or something ... and it totally blew my mind.

I was wondering just how hard does he have to work to get there ... cause like I was saying, I was peddling that damn Eliptical machine as fast a I could, so fast it was rocking side to side and I nearly fell off, and the highest I could get my HR was 156.

So I didn't know if that meant I was way out of shape and unable to reach my 85% rate, or if I was in pretty decent shape and even with intense exercise my heart only needed to beat 156 bpm.

But then again, I've read that 220 - Age, times some percentage is not so accurate and that really someone needs to figure out what their LT is and go from there .... but then I get lost ...

So, I measured my RHR at 54, 55, and 56 the past 3 days, so my avg. RHR is 55.  If I can only get my HR up to 156 during very intense exercise (what I incorrectly posted as my Max Heart Rate I do believe ... I meant to say the Max or Highest I've been able to get it up to ...) ... that this gives me a range of 100 or 101 to be exact .... which according to the previous poster ... is a better indication of fitness ... having a wide range.

But I also heard how quick your HR comes down is also a good indicator ... and I would really like to fully understand about LT and how to figure that out and go from there and find my HR Zone 2 .....

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2008-10-05 11:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Resting Heart Rate - What is Normal? Normal Ranges??
My resting is somewhere in the mid 40's and my max is about 213, Hill repeats are a barn burner!

I was told my "available HR range" was pretty high, but have nothing to compare it to.

If want to have fun convice your wife, or hubbie and such, to wear your HR monitor and start it recording.

Then them off real good, and afterwards when the coast is clear tell em what you were up to and look at the graph.



Edited by ZekeB 2008-10-05 11:17 PM


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