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2008-10-16 8:33 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:30 PM

D001 - 2008-10-17 12:27 PM
mchally - 2008-10-16 9:24 PM There is a place not to far from here that is offering $600 more a month and a better living space-and it seems like their interests are very similar to mine-sports, gardening, cooking, and they don't own a TV.
Well, is it worth discussing all this with your current family? Or do you feel that it would be better just to apply for this position?

Wow Dee you basically said the same thing as me.. only much more succinctly...



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2008-10-16 8:34 PM
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enders_shadow - 2008-10-16 9:31 PM

Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)



homemade is good. I just need someone to homemake them for me.
2008-10-16 8:34 PM
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D001 - 2008-10-16 6:29 PM
mchally - 2008-10-16 9:28 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:24 PM
mchally - 2008-10-17 12:20 PM

continuing my rant....

I wrote out the schedule she gave me-which suddenly has 4 more hours than we discussed-and have calculated how many hours of work that is each month-into how much that would be at the pay level I would expect from a job-starting out.

Subtract a reasonable amount for 'room and board' and most months I come out short a couple of hundred bucks-that includes no paid vacation or anything.

Plus, I have a ton of experience and should be earning more than the pay level I calculated -I have been here nearly 3 years and usually you get raises...

I could go on and on...but you don't need to hear it and I will just get more frustrated.

 

Basically you need to sit down with them and explain it to them... its the only way you are going to feel better about it.

Anyway finding out what other people are earning? And mentioning the extra 4 hours... negotiating some sort of over time arrangement so you feel like they cannot take advantage of your good nature...

Its the same in any working environment.. if you dont speak up then you will never get anywhere...

I know-I just want to make sure I can 'present my case' and not just melt down. I really have issues with any sort of confrontation.

Practice the discussion beforehand? Like, with a friend? Or to yourself?

I have been doing mental drafts, collecting 'evidence'-I prefer research papers over creative writing.  

2008-10-16 8:34 PM
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enders_shadow - 2008-10-16 9:32 PM

Must go shower. I smell bad. And my hands smell like chopped onions. I hate that!




Chocolate and onions just don't go well together.
2008-10-16 8:35 PM
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mchally - 2008-10-17 12:32 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:28 PM

mchally - 2008-10-17 12:24 PM There is a place not to far from here that is offering $600 more a month and a better living space-and it seems like their interests are very similar to mine-sports, gardening, cooking, and they don't own a TV.

So is the issue you want the current place to match that offer...

Or... is it more a matter of you need a push to apply for this other job?

more of the first-I just started browsing other people's offers to get an idea of what is the norm.  the other place does sound really nice though.  I could use a change.  I am closer to school if I stay here(15-20 minutes, maybe more).  It would also be lame of me to just up and ditch. 

sc

Well maybe just talk to them then... tell them how much you love working there and ask them if there is anything they can do to evolve the current situation. 

Im sure they dont want to go to the bother of finding someone else... right?

2008-10-16 8:35 PM
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enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:32 PM Must go shower. I smell bad. And my hands smell like chopped onions. I hate that!

yes - wash yuor hands before your cookie!



2008-10-16 8:36 PM
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enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:31 PM Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)

I can make homemade... if I come to the US one day I will bring my choc chip recipe with me!

2008-10-16 8:36 PM
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mchally - 2008-10-16 9:34 PM

D001 - 2008-10-16 6:29 PM
mchally - 2008-10-16 9:28 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:24 PM
mchally - 2008-10-17 12:20 PM

continuing my rant....

I wrote out the schedule she gave me-which suddenly has 4 more hours than we discussed-and have calculated how many hours of work that is each month-into how much that would be at the pay level I would expect from a job-starting out.

Subtract a reasonable amount for 'room and board' and most months I come out short a couple of hundred bucks-that includes no paid vacation or anything.

Plus, I have a ton of experience and should be earning more than the pay level I calculated -I have been here nearly 3 years and usually you get raises...

I could go on and on...but you don't need to hear it and I will just get more frustrated.

Basically you need to sit down with them and explain it to them... its the only way you are going to feel better about it.

Anyway finding out what other people are earning? And mentioning the extra 4 hours... negotiating some sort of over time arrangement so you feel like they cannot take advantage of your good nature...

Its the same in any working environment.. if you dont speak up then you will never get anywhere...

I know-I just want to make sure I can 'present my case' and not just melt down. I really have issues with any sort of confrontation.

Practice the discussion beforehand? Like, with a friend? Or to yourself?

I have been doing mental drafts, collecting 'evidence'-I prefer research papers over creative writing.



So treat it as a research project... Write a list of facts. Then write a list of why you should receive _____ (more salary, fewer hours, etc.)

2008-10-16 8:36 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:31 PM
D001 - 2008-10-17 12:29 PM
mchally - 2008-10-16 9:28 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:24 PM
mchally - 2008-10-17 12:20 PM

continuing my rant....

I wrote out the schedule she gave me-which suddenly has 4 more hours than we discussed-and have calculated how many hours of work that is each month-into how much that would be at the pay level I would expect from a job-starting out.

Subtract a reasonable amount for 'room and board' and most months I come out short a couple of hundred bucks-that includes no paid vacation or anything.

Plus, I have a ton of experience and should be earning more than the pay level I calculated -I have been here nearly 3 years and usually you get raises...

I could go on and on...but you don't need to hear it and I will just get more frustrated.

 

Basically you need to sit down with them and explain it to them... its the only way you are going to feel better about it.

Anyway finding out what other people are earning? And mentioning the extra 4 hours... negotiating some sort of over time arrangement so you feel like they cannot take advantage of your good nature...

Its the same in any working environment.. if you dont speak up then you will never get anywhere...

I know-I just want to make sure I can 'present my case' and not just melt down. I really have issues with any sort of confrontation.

Practice the discussion beforehand? Like, with a friend? Or to yourself?

Or with the Nibbs...

 

2008-10-16 8:37 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:35 PM

mchally - 2008-10-17 12:32 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 6:28 PM

mchally - 2008-10-17 12:24 PM There is a place not to far from here that is offering $600 more a month and a better living space-and it seems like their interests are very similar to mine-sports, gardening, cooking, and they don't own a TV.

So is the issue you want the current place to match that offer...

Or... is it more a matter of you need a push to apply for this other job?

more of the first-I just started browsing other people's offers to get an idea of what is the norm. the other place does sound really nice though. I could use a change. I am closer to school if I stay here(15-20 minutes, maybe more). It would also be lame of me to just up and ditch.

sc

Well maybe just talk to them then... tell them how much you love working there and ask them if there is anything they can do to evolve the current situation.

Im sure they dont want to go to the bother of finding someone else... right?



And subjecting the kids to the trauma of finding someone else....


2008-10-16 8:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Nibbs XXVI
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:36 PM

enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:31 PM Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)

I can make homemade... if I come to the US one day I will bring my choc chip recipe with me!



So. When are you coming? I'm hungry.


2008-10-16 8:38 PM
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Once, at a cafe, I had watermelon and it tasted like parsley-they used the same cutting board.  I haven't been back.
2008-10-16 8:38 PM
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Id sound them out first - dont launch straight into - they are offering this and I want you to match it.

But mention you wanted to look into the 'industry' and find out what was reasonable so they know you are not out to take advantage of them - so you did the research first...

Makes it sound like you really like them and prefer to stay but have to think of your own financial situation as well... and it was a matter of trying to find out what your current position is worth... 

Youll be all good!

2008-10-16 8:39 PM
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D001 - 2008-10-17 12:37 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:36 PM

enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:31 PM Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)

I can make homemade... if I come to the US one day I will bring my choc chip recipe with me!

So. When are you coming? I'm hungry.

Im not so good at saving!

2008-10-16 8:41 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:39 PM

D001 - 2008-10-17 12:37 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:36 PM

enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:31 PM Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)

I can make homemade... if I come to the US one day I will bring my choc chip recipe with me!

So. When are you coming? I'm hungry.

Im not so good at saving!



Bummer. Guess I need to find someone else to bake for me.
2008-10-16 8:42 PM
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D001 - 2008-10-17 12:41 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:39 PM
D001 - 2008-10-17 12:37 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:36 PM

enders_shadow - 2008-10-17 12:31 PM Actually, I'm a big fan of HO-made...unfortunately, I can't bake worth a toot. (Maybe that is fortunately.)

I can make homemade... if I come to the US one day I will bring my choc chip recipe with me!

So. When are you coming? I'm hungry.

Im not so good at saving!

Bummer. Guess I need to find someone else to bake for me.

In the short term... yes...



2008-10-16 8:46 PM
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Howdy everyone!  I'm back from the pork festival.  My husband is kind of drunk.  I was the designated driver.
2008-10-16 8:47 PM
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Artemis - 2008-10-17 12:46 PM Howdy everyone!  I'm back from the pork festival.  My husband is kind of drunk.  I was the designated driver.

How was all that meat? 

2008-10-16 8:52 PM
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They're back and I am out.  I need to go to my parents to get some stuff done.  Some days never seem to end...

I'll check back later

2008-10-16 8:56 PM
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mchally - 2008-10-17 12:52 PM

They're back and I am out.  I need to go to my parents to get some stuff done.  Some days never seem to end...

I'll check back later

Bye Melissa!

2008-10-16 8:57 PM
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Oooh, a new Nibbs. How fun!


2008-10-16 8:58 PM
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kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:47 PM

Artemis - 2008-10-17 12:46 PM Howdy everyone! I'm back from the pork festival. My husband is kind of drunk. I was the designated driver.

How was all that meat?

It was ok.  More about drinking than the food.   

2008-10-16 8:58 PM
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I think I picked out my next knitting project.  I want to make myself a wrap for Christmas parties.  Found some really cool sparkly yarn. 
2008-10-16 9:01 PM
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TriAya - 2008-10-17 12:57 PM Oooh, a new Nibbs. How fun!

Hiya Yanti!

2008-10-16 9:04 PM
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Artemis - 2008-10-17 12:58 PM
kaqphin - 2008-10-16 9:47 PM

Artemis - 2008-10-17 12:46 PM Howdy everyone! I'm back from the pork festival. My husband is kind of drunk. I was the designated driver.

How was all that meat?

It was ok.  More about drinking than the food.   

I guess that was inevitable.. is the husband lying down somewhere?

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