The whole homosexuality debate (Page 2)

Because our tax laws involve marriage. If you want to change those and have no legal marriage for anyone that would be fine in terms of equality I guess.

I would against that.....I think everyone should be forced to experience marriage......at least once. 

you have it a little backwards.... all those things used to be just because they were. The movement has been to erase all things even remotely religious in public. I'm not religious, so save your judgment. I just have eyes, and can see what is happening. I'm not going to buy the lie of "attack on religion"... but there certainly is a movement. 

the liberal side of the spectrum has been trying to "force" their world view on the public for a while. Away from a religious/conservative history, to a liberal/everything is good no matter what you do for a while. PC, everyone wins, everyone is a beautiful special snow flake, nobody should make too much money, all the way to sexual norms. Promiscuity is fine... it's fun too I did plenty.... nobody needs a family.... and yes, sexual orientation gets wrapped up in all that. It has been a rebellion against the conservative history of this country. 

Now, I'm a heathen. Got laid, paid, and wasted. I'm not casting any moral judgments on anyone, and I would tell you what you could do with yours if you wanted to cast them on me. But the movement has been to REMOVE conservative values.... not force them. but when one side start a fight, then both sides throw punches. 

There is no proof yet, but I can tell you it is not a choice, I did not choose to be this way. 

To be blunt people who think it is a choice are wrong, it is not an opinion, they are just wrong. 

Of course they are.....but the kind of people who make that argument end up being wrong about a lot of things. 

I don't understand why the choice thing makes a difference. Whether someone chooses to be gay or are born that way, they're still getting screwed by our legal system which still singles them out and says that they're not worthy of the same laws as everyone else.

Can someone give me a clear and succinct reason why 2 gay people getting married is a bad thing? It's hard hearing it from someone like Michelle Bachmann because she has to appease voters too, so her reasoning gets all muddled up in political correctness. I get that religious groups see it as a sin, but why does their "sin" matter to anyone else?

ETA: I'm not trying to pick a fight, i just legitimately want to hear all sides of the argument

I can't answer that. I don't understand the problem with polygamy. I can only handle one wife... but if someone want's to sign up for that... have at it. 

also issues of hospital visitation and other similar civil liberties

This.  See a documentary called Bridegroom, it details this very, very well.  About how if one side of the family is so anti your relationship and something bad happens they can completely shut you out, and there isn't a damn thing you can do about it. 

Ok, he should have had a living will, and whatnot, but how many of you at a young age had such things? 

Well according to the State, the marriage is a simple civil contract, and that is what some states will not allow a homosexual couple to obtain. Your wedding (I'm assuming) was a religious ceremony and separate from a state recognized marriage.  You could have just gone to the courthouse and gotten a license. 

I also don't think we should tell a church that it has to marry homosexual couples. That is religion and the state should not tell a religion what it can and cannot do.  The state however, should not refuse to give the civil contract of marriage to any couple based on the religious beliefs of those in power.

 So......my brother liked to wrestle, and I got tired of having my arse kicked by him so I did not....I made my sister wrestle him instead.  I don't know what that says about us.  The person who wrote that paper is probably walking around in circles with his thumb in his mouth trying to figure it out.

or his head up his arse

you realize that is what we do in america right? and there are states that won't let gay couples go to the courthouse.

That's only during the wrestling championships.

I gptta be honest here.....I'm a Midwest kid.  The day will never come when I read a book by the Director of Human Sexuality Studies at Stanford University. I'd be happy if that guy just went and got a job. LMAO

I have a hard time believing most of these so called stereotypes, even if they come from so called experts.  Most of the gay people that I know, including my self to not adhere to them. 

I was your typical boy, I played in the mud, burned ants with a magnifying glass and got into more then my fair share of trouble.  I also liked to wrestle when i was young.  I was always a stronger kid so it was fun because I would usually win.