Sad day in USA for both Parties (Page 2)

Geeez, Hollis, maybe you should move?

I'm ornery enough that I'd be outside washing my car in the shortest shorts I could find. Oops, did my tshirt get wet?

Seriously though, the dude sounds like he is throwing off some serious darkness. BLAH. I feel for ya.

OMG! I think we just found where Osama's been hiding!!!

Well, I'd ask him where in the Bible it says that the Bible ought to be the only thing used to make claims about God's will.

And the fact that we started out by escaping religious persecutiuon. Therefore, I'm not sure the founders thought it was OK to persecute fellow citizens based on their religious beliefs.

I think the creed our nation was founded upon is not necessarily Bibically derived: We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

I believe Christianity is true, and I believe that the creed that our country was founded upon is consistent with Christianity.  But the foundation of that creed, I believe, flows from Natural Law which can be a philosophically deduced notion.  A person can be at least a-religious, and perhaps even a-theistic, and still believe in Natural Law. 

Sorry autmn but i dont think that sick bastard's actions had anything to do with which party was in power.  Maybe it was a statement against the government in general, but not because he had a problem with our democracy.

The assertion that our country was founded on a belief system not shared by about a billion of its citizens effectively marginalizes those people. To say that it's OK to enact laws that strip the rights from those people, based solely on religious doctrine effectively marginalizes those people.

It makes them second-class citizens.

Suck what up? All the people you are mentioning are free to live here, have jobs, own a home and yes, even worship as they please so I really don't know what your point is.

 yup, even I, A gay American, can have a job, own a home, worship, pay taxes, vote... Yippee. If I keep my mouth shut, I can even go to war and die for my country. But I do not have the same security for my family that you do, based on a Biblically based legislation.

I'm positively giddy.

I'm not dancing on the GOP's grave; I recognize this for the tide shift it is and I have voted for some fine Republicans in the past.

I'm just giddy that people voted. I'm giddy that these people had to fight for their jobs because the idealist in me thinks that they will take the public a bit more seriously as a consequence.

I'll raise a beer and toast all of us!

For one, Hollis doesn't get the same survivor benefits you would.

you voted on this issue yeterday and you don;t know the answer to that question? I am floored.

I cannot receive benefits from my partner. (and vv) I can not take sick leave to care for her. I cannot visit her in the hospital or make decisions for her should she be unable (vv) I must testify against her in court if called. I can not get her pension (vv) Neither our debt nor our income is a shared entity.

We have been together 5+ years. Even after 35+ years, as this legislation is written, we are complete strangers to each other legally.

Word.

Did you actually type that? Are you kidding??? This, IMHO, is a perfect example of how the conservatives in politics are deluded about the needs of the American people.


Wow, I took too long to write this...

Edited by JoyfullySo 2006-11-08 3:11 PM