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2011-04-24 4:35 PM
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Hey all!
Bit of a whirl wind weekend.  Last day of work at my old job on Friday.  Left early, stopped by a rental shop to get a stump grinder and took out two stumps.  Did a little under an hour ride on Saturday to try out the legs then off with the kids to Pony club.  Up at 5am today as my son was part of the youth Sunrise service, then to regular service as son was in choir and daughter was Crucifer.  Back to riding lessons for my son now home.  I did make my favorite dish, Calzone.  Very good and we nearly wiped out the two I made.

Next week I return to training.  My goal for my next HIM is to be much stronger on the bike.  Finish faster and fresher than NOLA.  So I am doing Jorge's bike training program.  Did it in 2009 and it kicked my tail but helped me a lot.  I have next week off then start my new job.

For the current challenge I will leave the teams as is and we will start a new challenge on May 1st. 

So, for the current challenge how are the numbers looking folks?



2011-04-24 8:14 PM
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Room for one more? My winter mentor group has petered out, and I need a group to report into, send inspires to and get inspires from to keep me going. Training for my first 10K in 5 weeks (only up to 5K now) and from there going on to some sprints and an Oly in September. Let me know! -- Kim
2011-04-24 9:01 PM
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You are in Kim.  Welcome!

Gary, do you have a list of who is in and active?  I'd like to add everyone as friends and follow up with regulat inspires.

Mike

2011-04-24 9:27 PM
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Kim - Yes you are in!  But you need to post an intro.

Everyone - When I startedt this group I collected everyones races and dates.  Since then we have lost some folks and gained some new ones.  I will update and post this week but if you have not posted your races (including dates) please do so now.



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Busy holiday weekend, I will post my team totals tomorrow. It is still just me, Dorm and Randy on my team?
2011-04-25 8:15 AM
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A list would be GReat!!!


2011-04-25 8:26 AM
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Does anybody have any instructional material on how to keep your line in the water?   That is one of my greatest opportunities to improve.
2011-04-25 9:17 AM
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GaryRM - 2011-04-24 9:27 PM

Everyone - When I startedt this group I collected everyones races and dates.  Since then we have lost some folks and gained some new ones.  I will update and post this week but if you have not posted your races (including dates) please do so now.

My races:

Race to Robie Creek:  HM 4/16 DONE!

Bay to Breakers: 10k with my sister, her first race, 5/15

Boise 70.3:  first HIM, 6/11

Spudman: oly, 7/10

Vikingman: oly/HIM depending on training, 9/9

Fall destination marathon:  date and location TBD.

 



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stratigos - 2011-04-25 8:26 AM Does anybody have any instructional material on how to keep your line in the water?   That is one of my greatest opportunities to improve.

I've been told to swim in a pool with my eyes closed - you'll know which side you drift to from bouncing into the lane lines and will be able correct your stroke accordingly. 

 

2011-04-25 10:52 AM
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stratigos - 2011-04-25 8:26 AM Does anybody have any instructional material on how to keep your line in the water?   That is one of my greatest opportunities to improve.

I can definitely use improvement there also.  For me, consistantly sighting every 6 strokes has helped a lot.  Also, I need to work more on my sighting so it does not slow my stroke as much.  Really the best thing is OWS practice with others.  Current, chop, other swimmers, etc are things that are hard to simulate.

2011-04-25 2:15 PM
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I have a question for the group:  How closely do pool swim times (with flip turns) correspond to open water swim times?  I just did 2x1000 and held about a 1:30 pace in the pool.  I felt like I was keeping good speed but wasnt killing myself - probably about the same effort that I'd do in a tri and I could have held the pace for a long time.  Given good OWS conditions (not too windy or too choppy or too many people in my face), how fast should I expect to go?


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Group totals for week 2:Swim: 8051.27!!!Bike: 50Run: 21.13Got to add up week 1 and week 2 to see it we hit IM on the bike, I know we hit it for run and swim!!! Go team! Not sure we won though...
2011-04-25 7:50 PM
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elizabethk - 2011-04-25 2:15 PM I have a question for the group:  How closely do pool swim times (with flip turns) correspond to open water swim times?  I just did 2x1000 and held about a 1:30 pace in the pool.  I felt like I was keeping good speed but wasnt killing myself - probably about the same effort that I'd do in a tri and I could have held the pace for a long time.  Given good OWS conditions (not too windy or too choppy or too many people in my face), how fast should I expect to go?

It depends on how straight you swim and how well you hold your form.  Given you are swimming 1:30's, I'd say your form is probably pretty good.  I'll hazard to guess a slight slow down, like 1:40's.  I base this on my slow swim times of 2:00-2:10 slowing to 2:20-2:30 in open water. 

2011-04-25 7:56 PM
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My races:

4/17 - NOLA 70.3 - first HIM done!

5/22 - Carlyle, IL Oly - my first Oly - registered

7/16 - Evergreen Oly - registered

10/2 - Rend Lake IL HIM???

10/23 - St. Louis Rock n' Roll HM???

2011-04-25 8:32 PM
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Remaining races for me this year are:

3 Little Pigs ... Saturday June 18, 2011

Rex Wellness Sprint Triathlon ... Sunday August 21, 2011

2011-04-25 8:38 PM
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Here's my bio:

Name: Kim (greenhousevt)

Story: In August I turn 40. I started 2011 out of shape, and decided to not hit 40 in the same state. I've never been an athlete, and have had some years in which I have worked out consistently (weights and cardio) and many more years in which I have not. Consistency/discipline (outside of my job -- I'm a workaholic) is a struggle for me. I did a sprint triathlon in '04 and another in '05 (but didn't train very well for either). I enjoy swimming (though I'm not good at it), love biking, and am not fond of running. I have a bone growth on my hip that I feel often when jogging/biking, and that eventually I will have cut out, but I don't want to have surgery until I get in shape so that the recuperation is faster (and I want to be in a lot of pain before I put myself through the pain of surgery!)

Family status: A very supportive partner of 17 years who may do a sprint with me. One rescued cocker spaniel of indeterminate age who loves walk-jogging when I take him.

Current training: On Sunday I started the 20-week, run-focused Olympic distance training plan here on BT. Since January I've been working on getting ready to start the 20-week plan. I'm not yet capable of swimming 40 minutes uninterrupted, and it takes good effort for me to hit the minimum requirement of 40 minutes of jogging and 1:20 biking (the recommended minimums prior to starting the plan). 

2010 races: I did a lot of high-quality work for my employer, but nothing for myself. (Does it count if I watched a friend finish a half-marathon?) ;-)

2011 races: 
May 29 - 6.4-mile leg of Burlington City marathon (relay) -- the longest distance I will have ever run (and can't run that far yet!)
June 5 - Stowe, Vermont sprint tri (starts in a swimming pool)
July 17 - Salisbury, Vermont sprint tri (in a small lake)
August 13 - day after my 40th -- Shelburne, Vermont sprint (in a big lake)
September 11 - Burlington Olympic

Goals:
My sole goal re: each of the above races is to finish, and not feel like I want to throw up at the end. (Is that an inspiring goal, or what?)  

I look forward to getting caught up on who everyone is, your training plans and your goals!

Kim



2011-04-25 9:01 PM
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elizabethk - 2011-04-25 2:15 PM I have a question for the group:  How closely do pool swim times (with flip turns) correspond to open water swim times?  I just did 2x1000 and held about a 1:30 pace in the pool.  I felt like I was keeping good speed but wasnt killing myself - probably about the same effort that I'd do in a tri and I could have held the pace for a long time.  Given good OWS conditions (not too windy or too choppy or too many people in my face), how fast should I expect to go?

First, congrats on holding a fast pace like that!  The problem with projecting a speed in OW is that there are a heck of a lot of variables.  Where you start in the pack, number of swimmers you have to deal with, number of turns (most folks don't swim around buoys properly and lose a lot of time) and how straight you swim.  My favorite is putting the timing mat 100yards up the hill!  That said 1:40-2:00 would be a good range.  In the pool I can hold a ~1:50-1:55/100m for 500-1000meters and in my last OWS I avgd 2:02/100m for 800 meters (out and back) if that helps.

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sfred45 - 2011-04-25 7:38 PM Group totals for week 2:Swim: 8051.27!!!Bike: 50Run: 21.13Got to add up week 1 and week 2 to see it we hit IM on the bike, I know we hit it for run and swim!!! Go team! Not sure we won though...

Nice job!!!! Go Team!

2011-04-25 9:10 PM
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Kim - Welcome!!! Actually, finishing the race feeling like you are going to puke is a good thing.  Means you had nothing left to give.  Either way, welcome to the group.

Did the first test of JorgeM's bike training plan and now have my HR for the rest of the plan.  Actually ended up being the same rate as I had last time just a faster time.  Going to spend the next month concentrating on the bike.  For me to improve my next HIM time means faster bike split and fresher legs for the run.

Will have the list up tomorrow.

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Two questions...Neck pain on the bike...whenever I ride more than 20ish miles on the road I get pretty intense neck pain. Anyone else experience this? Do I need to raise my handlebars? Or do I need to get a professional bike fitting (difficult with a baby at home). The weekend rides get longer and longer and the last 30 mile ride I suffered for about a week with the neck strain...Trainer question...just bought a Kurt kinetic fluid trainer - do I need to buy a trainer tire? From what I read the trainer can ruin the back tire. Should I just shut up and get on the trainer or wait and order a trainer tire?
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GaryRM - 2011-04-25 9:10 PM

Did the first test of JorgeM's bike training plan and now have my HR for the rest of the plan.  Actually ended up being the same rate as I had last time just a faster time.  Going to spend the next month concentrating on the bike.  For me to improve my next HIM time means faster bike split and fresher legs for the run.

 

I did the first 10 weeks or so of Jorge's plan until it became too much with my NOLA training.  It's a good plan and definitely helped me.



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ransick - 2011-04-26 12:43 PM

I did the first 10 weeks or so of Jorge's plan until it became too much with my NOLA training.  It's a good plan and definitely helped me.

I did the 2009 version as a lead in to NOLA.  I plan on shooting for 3-4x rides thru May with Sat or Sun being a long ride.  After that I will probably return to a HIM plan. 

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tedricw - 2011-04-22 12:26 PM

I would like to join your mentor group. I'm 41 and have been trying to get back into shape. I currently participate in a boot camp type of expercise program 2x week and strength training. I felt like I needed a goal to aspire to so I entered a sprint triathlon for this summer.  My wife intends to train with me and a coworker has also entered.  I'm hoping to get hooked as many people do in the sport but mostly I just want to feel better physically and mentally.

Ted

Ted - I think I might have missed your post.  Your most welcome!!! Please post an intro.

2011-04-26 1:45 PM
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Okay - initial list - If you don't see your name or your race it is simply because I missed you or your race.  Please post and gently remind me to add.  I still have a couple of my races to add and if you add more just let me know:

  • Stephanie - sFred
  • Ransick - Mike
  • Dorm57 - Dorm
  • Greenhousevt - Kim
  • Stratigos - Tracy
  • jpfeife - Justin
  • Denisema18 - Denise
  • RandyP1964 - Randy
  • Fitmomma2010 - Shelly
  • Dub_z - Rib
  • Dwpiggott - David
  • tedricw - Ted
  • Swimmom2002 - Marcie
  • Elizabeth - Elizabethlk

May
May 7 - Hasting Tri - Justin
May 7 - 5 mile road race - Denise
May 15 - Bay to Breakers - Elizabeth
May 21 - Galena Triathlon - Marcie
May 22 - KC Tri - Randy
May 22 - Carlyle, IL Oly - Mike
May 22 - Aflac Iron Girl - Shelly
May 29 - 6.4 leg of Burlington Marathon - Kim

June
JUne 4 - Escape the Cape Sprint - Stephanie
June 4 - Norfolk Tri - Justin
June 5 - Stowe, Vermont Sprint - Kim
June 5 - PlayTri Festival My First Tri - Bert
June 11 - Boise 70.3 - Elizabeth
June 11 - Ottawa Riverkeeper Triathlon/Duathlon - LJK
June 12 - KS 70.3 - Randy
June 12 - Dirty Rock Off Road Sprint - Bert
June 18 - 3 Little Pigs - Dorm

July
July 10 - Spudman - Elizabeth
July 16 - Evergreen Oly - Mike
July 17 - Salisbury, Vermont Sprint - Kim
July 24 - Chisago Lakes MN Half Ironman Distance -SwimMom2002/Marcie
July 30 - National Capital Triathlon/Duathlon - LJK

August
Aug 5-7 - Susan B. Komen 3-day 60 mile walk- Swim Mom2002/Marcie
Aug 6 - Columbus Duathlon - Justin
Aug 13 - Shelburne, Vermont Sprint
Aug 21 - Timberman 70.3 - Stephanie
Aug 21 - Rex Wellness Sprint - Dorm
Aug ? - Falmouth Road race (7 miles)
Aug ?- Big Cajun Oly - Gary

September
Sept 3 - Canadian Iron 226 Triathlon/Duathlon - LJK
Sept 4 - Hy-Vee Oly - Justin
Sept 9 - Vikingman Oly/HIM - Elizabeth
Sept 17 - Douglas State Park Sprint - Stephanie
Sept 11 - Burlington Oly - Kim
Sept 24 - Holdegre Tri - Justin
Sept 24 - Redman HIM - Randy
Sept 25 - Stonebridge Ranch Triathlon - Bert

October
Oct 2 - Rend Lake, IL HIM - Mike
Oct 23 - St. Louis RnR HM - Mike
Oct 23 - Austin 70.3 - Gary
Oct 29 - B2B - Cayenne

Nov - IMFL - Randy 



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Hey Gary, you left my name (Elizabeth) off the list but got all of my races.  Thanks for doing this.  I'll try and "friend" everyone after work tonight. 

Question:  I was just diagnosed with piriformis syndrome (runner's butt) and am taking another week off of running.  This week will be filled with icing, stretching, anti-inflammatories and physical therapy.  Hopefully it wont hurt to ride my bike.  Does anyone have any experience with this?  How long till you were able to run again? 

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