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I could see that playing out.   "you must pick Rubio as your VP".  OK, no problem.  Wins the nomination and the election starts kicking in.  Press conference... "Hey Rubio, you're fired.  I'm replacing you with XXXX"   haha

I completely DISAGREE!!!!

He would say Lil Marko, your fired!

Does pleading the 5th loud and clear count?

Hillary's going to be very upset if she doesn't get the Farrakhan endorsement.  He's been solid Democrat for decades.

Hey, I guess we can say this is more evidence that Trump truly is breaking new grounds of bringing people together when he gets the absolute fringes of hate from both parties to like him.  lol

In all seriousness it's exactly what Obama did.  He had some vague specifics such as Healthcare for all whereas Trump has his "Build a wall".
But most of Obama's platform was about Hope and Change and everyone interpreted it to mean what they wanted it to mean.  I remember a lot of interviews on the street poking fun of what people thought he was going to do.  Many were whacked out thinking they were going to get free houses, cars, college, etc when of course none of it was true.
I'm almost certain that in the coming months we'll see interviews of Trump supporters doing the same thing where they think all these great things are going to happen to them because it's what "Trumps gonna do"

If Trump gets elected I'm getting free guns.......wait.....I meant I'm buying more ammunition.

He definitely put specifics out there on some things, but I honestly don't recall the timelines of the plans so I can't argue either way.  We are still early with this election season.
I will say that Obama's "Hope and Change" was the primary driver for his popularity, IMHO.  Don't get me wrong, he didn't get all his support just because he was vague in areas.  He was a great campaigner and speaker who energized crowds. (I guess Trump has that too)  lol

And you get a free illegal.  Sending them back is really "code" for turning them into indentured servants. 

Well, if I get a servant, he can spend his time reloading.

Hey, don't talk about my girl.  Even though she's been mean to my Trumpy I still love her and left her on my "list".  

I couldn't watch the debate, but caught the highlights this morning. Trump will order our military to commit war crimes, Cruz ate a booger, Trump guaranteed everyone that he doesn't have a small penis, and Rubio won't shake anyone's hand because he's a fist-bumping guy. Did I miss anything?

I spent 2 hours wanting to reach through the screen to tear those things off her eyelids.  Hideous.

But don't worry, in the general election Hillary will assure everyone that her penis is even larger than Drumpf's!

As a candidate, she is always willing to change positions.  No one wants a candidate that stays in the same position all the time.  She is really willing to bend over backwards for your vote!

As a candidate, she is always willing to change positions.  No one wants a candidate that stays in the same position all the time.  She is really willing to bend over backwards for your vote!

I have not had time for a more  fully formed discussion about our views on choosing to live elsewhere for a while, until now.   My husband is from Suriname, and can work anywhere in the CARICOM. Living and working internationally would not be anything new for us (I was working in Suriname when we met). He still has a house and other property there that we don't want to neglect. The company I work for has Caribbean offices, and I mentioned this on my last performance review. I lived for three years in West Africa, and my experience was quite positive with respect to living amongst Muslims as a nonMuslim. I could go on about that. Suriname is a split roughly 50-20-15 Christian-Hindu-Muslim, with a smattering of others. The National Mosque is next door to he national Jewish Temple. It is a unique place.

None of that is to say there would not be a causal relationship with Trump's election and our timing in going away for a while.

Trump's rhetoric has set a tone where it is ok to say and do hateful things. The place on the Venn diagram where "political correctness" and "basic social decency" is pretty blurred right now. As soon as Trump said we should stop letting Muslims in, other elected officials started talking internment (thankfully, there was a backlash). A protester being removed from a rally? Let's all give him a push! Kids shouting Trump Trump Trump to taunt the opposing team of predominantly Hispanic students - where did they learn that? (http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/01/us/midwest-trump-school-chants/). My nieces and nephew are all Hispanic. The 16 YO niece is listening intently when Mexican immigrants get described as criminals by someone who wants to be president.

In my own social circle I have heard a vitriol against "Muslims" without differentiation of radical Islamists from the Muslim people who are their (ISIS's etc) primary victims that I had not heard before. Same with "illegals". It is ok now to denigrate the "other"- we hear it everyday on network TV.

Mr. Booty has actually embraced his Muslim identity more, publicly, as a response to the news - he feels the need to stand up to it. Many in our professional/social circle did not know he was Muslim. On the whole, we are not a religious bunch, we geologists, so our personal church going does not come up often. It has lead to a few interesting moments. We were talking, in a group, about the process of becoming a citizen (another couple was there with a Peruvian wife, while another person was born Brazilian). We said that while we were frustrated with the timing and lack of knowing how long each step took, at least we knew there was a sure path. Someone said, sarcastically, "well, I am sure if you were Muslim, Obama would have rolled out the red carpet with no waiting". mr. b responded "first of all, immigration does not ask your religion at any point in the process, but they DO ask if you are a Nazi. (Pause) And, by the way, I am a Muslim".

At Mosque, the FBI has come to talk to the people several times. Mr. B believes they are more worried about the place being a target of terrorism than the people becoming enemies of the state themselves. He senses a lot of fear there among the people, most of who are recent immigrants.

Thanks for that......nicely written and interesting.  And yeah, I agree on your comment regarding the Venn diagram. 

I was simply raised to treat people the way I wanted to be treated....it has served me well.  The older I get the more I learn to keep my own prejudices and bias' to myself in the interest of, as you said, "basic social decency".  In the end, we DO have to all live with each other.....no point in making it (more) miserable.

Great video of those racist, homophobic, hate filled Trump supporters:

https://www.facebook.com/endfederalreserve/videos/681625301939928/