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How is your Run Less Run Faster training going? 

Hey James,

I finally hired a running coach.  The first thing he did was put an end to Run Less Run Faster.  Between him and a sports med clinic we figured out the weird thing my right foot was doing was mainly a flexibility issue.  I have had a couple blood clots in my right leg, and who knew, that destroyed the flexibility in my right leg and hip - the result, the weird running gate.  Been doing a bunch of specific strength exercises and stretching.  I am almost running with a normal gait now, at least until I get tired - then all bets are off.

Coach has me doing a couple long easy runs, 2-3 miles if you can call that long, per week to develop a solid base.  Each succeeding run he wants me to go just a little bit further.  I am uploading all the GPS data to 'the other' training log and if I don't go "just a little bit further" I get an email asking why not!  Once a week he has me doing tempo runs at 8:00/mile, more like intervals actually because I can't go much over a quarter mile at that pace (been doing something like 10 x [400 run, 200 walk]).  Once a week he has me running up a hill near the house - it is about 2 miles up to the top with +/- 750 feet of elevation gain - something like 7.5% grade.  i thought I knew about dark places in training.  I thought I knew about pain, but I am here to tell you - at about 500 feet up, the lights go off, the heart rate is crazy high, the legs are burning, and all I can hear is him yelling to dig deep and go harder!  And then a couple days each week I have a whole series of drills I am working on to develop better form.  I will say that all in all I am feeling much better about my run.  He gave me a bunch of stuff to work on before I started traveling and I was doing that on the road.  We are planning an 'un-official' 5K in the next couple weeks.  He wants a better base line for pacing and he doesn't think my HR zones are correct.  I think he really just wants to torture me but we will see.  He is saying 3-4 more weeks of the base build at which point I should be up to 20-25 miles/week, then we will start run training.  Through it all he has been insisting on perfect form.  While I was on the road I was sending video back once or twice a week and he would comment.  I am really happy because he lives just a couple miles from me so now that I am done traveling for a bit we will be able to work one on one several times a week.  I am still not a runner by any stretch of the imagination but I think I am finally headed in the right direction!

I am looking forward to that 'holy crap, I can do this' moment like you had swimming! Surprised



2013-08-21 12:04 PM
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Yesterday evening I ran the Virginia Peninsula Track Club 5K Swamp Bridge Run with some of my TNT members. The majority of the race was on one of the unpaved trails in the park. I did my normal 3/1 minute run/walk at an average pace of 12 minute/mile. All was well until just pass the 2 mile mark when deep in the woods I got attacked by a not to large tree root which sent me flying face first into the forest floor. Got my wind knocked out of me and was bleeding from two lacerations one in my lower lip and the other on my chin. After a few minutes on the ground and thanks to the fellow runners who stopped to help particularly the young woman who walked and jogged with me, I got up and finish the race.

When I got home my wife took me to Emergency Room where I received stitches on my chin and lower lip. They also x-rayed my left shoulder as it was badly bruised in the fall, no breaks. Other than that just some sore muscles. This is the first real injury I had requiring doctors care. What's funny is that it will have little or no impact on my running or bike training but with the sore shoulder and until the stitches are out and the wounds healed, swimming is on hold for a week to 10 days. Lucky I was just starting my taper before the Nation's Triathlon.




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  I think he really just wants to torture me but we will see.  Surprised




Scott--Isn't that what good coaches do? Now you know exactly how I feel at the pool with my swim coach torturing me! Sounds like you're making progress!


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2013-08-21 9:32 PM
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  I think he really just wants to torture me but we will see.  Surprised




Scott--Isn't that what good coaches do? Now you know exactly how I feel at the pool with my swim coach torturing me! Sounds like you're making progress!


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2013-08-21 9:34 PM
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I got up and finished the race.




Nice. You're the man! Hope you recover quickly!

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2013-08-21 9:38 PM
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Did an interesting workout today that was really good for practicing running off the bike.

The basic workout was about one hour. It consisted of a 10 minute spin on the indoor bike, quickly slipping on the running shoes and running 10 minutes at a solid pace..in my case about 7:30. So, about a 20 minute bike/run leg.

This set is then repeated 3 times to get the one hour workout. By the third interval off the bike I was really starting to get that tired leg feeling that is common in a race.

Be careful out there!

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2013-08-21 10:13 PM
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After a few minutes on the ground and thanks to the fellow runners who stopped to help particularly the young woman who walked and jogged with me, I got up and finish the race.

Nice to know that sportsmanship is not completely gone.  Glad to hear you are going to be ok.

Those pesky roots!  They do it every time.

2013-08-22 9:09 PM
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OK gray guys/girls--

Here is a two minute video on the USA Triathlon Sprint Nationals to get you motivated. ANYONE can race in the Sprint Nationals, so you can start training now for 2014 in Milwaukee!

Below is the video link. Not only that, I actually got to make an on screen appearance in the video! You'll see me talking about sprint races about 30 seconds into the video. I'm on camera for a total of about 3 seconds, but the voice over is a little longer.

Hope to see you next year in Milwaukee!

http://www.usatriathlon.org/events/usat/2013/08/sprint-national-cha...

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Congratulations Steve, Job well done and this Grey Gal is very proud of you. .
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Subject: RE: Been gone a while!
Originally posted by tkatzhyman

I received stitches on my chin and lower lip.



Tsvi - Holy moly! I guess next race will be a tough mudder (just kidding). Nice job with finishing, you are one tough son of B. In that book Younger Next Year that Steve recommended it states as we get older we lose some of our reaction time and that lifting weights can help offset this. This past fall I tripped on a root and just got my hands out in front of me in time. I was about 2 inches from kissing a big rock and needing some serious dental work.

Put vitamin E (break open the gel caps) on those cuts to help reduce the scaring.

Glad you will be OK - hang in there my friend.

James

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Subject: RE: Been gone a while!
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Originally posted by JREDFLY

How is your Run Less Run Faster training going? 

Hey James,

I finally hired a running coach.  The first thing he did was put an end to Run Less Run Faster.  Between him and a sports med clinic we figured out the weird thing my right foot was doing was mainly a flexibility issue.  I have had a couple blood clots in my right leg, and who knew, that destroyed the flexibility in my right leg and hip - the result, the weird running gate.  Been doing a bunch of specific strength exercises and stretching.  I am almost running with a normal gait now, at least until I get tired - then all bets are offp>



Scott - that is great that they found out what was going on with your foot. Hang in there with the training, you are making me feel like such a wimp. 8:00 minute miles on those 400s is actually very good at this stage in your training and with the medical issues that you have had, keep it up you are doing great.

James

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Hi Gray guys/girls:

I hope you've got some great things lined up for the weekend. Hard to believe that we're winding down on the 2013 Tri season already.

I know some of you are having difficulty getting the training in for one last triathlon this year. No worries. Fall is fabulous for running events. So if you can't get motivated for one last multi-sport event for 2013, seriously think about signing up for a 5K or 10K. For me, my commitment to train is really cemented by putting my name on an entry form and laying down the fee. Plus, 5K and 10K races are great ways to test your fitness and have a baseline for next year.

For me, it's a training weekend. I've got a 2.5 hour bike ride scheduled for Saturday and a 10 mile easy endurance run set for Sunday, with hopefully an open water swim at Lake Chelan on one of those two days. We'll see.

Have a great weekend. If you're racing, best of luck, stay positive.

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2013-08-23 12:48 PM
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Hi Gray guys/girls:

I hope you've got some great things lined up for the weekend. Hard to believe that we're winding down on the 2013 Tri season already.

I know some of you are having difficulty getting the training in for one last triathlon this year. No worries. Fall is fabulous for running events. So if you can't get motivated for one last multi-sport event for 2013, seriously think about signing up for a 5K or 10K. For me, my commitment to train is really cemented by putting my name on an entry form and laying down the fee. Plus, 5K and 10K races are great ways to test your fitness and have a baseline for next year.

For me, it's a training weekend. I've got a 2.5 hour bike ride scheduled for Saturday and a 10 mile easy endurance run set for Sunday, with hopefully an open water swim at Lake Chelan on one of those two days. We'll see.

Have a great weekend. If you're racing, best of luck, stay positive.

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I'm ending the season with a bang, although early. NC Sprint Triathlon Championship on August 31st and then a 200 mile Bike ride the following weekend September 7the and 8th. Been kinda coasting but training steadily. I over trained in June after my best finish this year and ended up with a sore shoulder and pulled calf muscle didn't give it enough time to rest, and completely bombed my July Tri, I went from a first place finish AG/8th overall, to last place AG/300th overall the in July. Learned my lesson and eased up on the training, less intense and I think I'm peaking for the tri. Then later in September I've got a 10K to run with my wife, October the whole family unit All the way down to the oldest grand daughter are going to participate in a family weekend, I'll run the 10K, wife and daughter and SIL will run the 5K, then afterwards we'll all run the one mile fun run with the grandkids. November I'm running the Turkey Trot Marathon on Thanksgiving, then will sit down to Thanksgiving Dinner and eat all the stuff I'm not supposed to. December will be two runs a 5K and a 10K, January a 5K, February a 5K and then March I'll start my Triathlon season again with the Sampson County Super Sprint for starters. The gym I've been going to closed it's doors yesterday and I managed to buy some of their equipment, a Life Fitness Cross trainer/elliptical, Life Fitness Stair Climber, Life Fitness Stationary Bicycle and redundant Bike, an incline bench, barbell and 350 pounds of weights, all for $400.00 (all in good shape and workable, the Cross Trainer is almost brand new.). I have a spare room the wife and I are making into a home gym. She wants to run her first triathlon in March when I run the Sampson County Super Sprint. Between the two of us we've lost 275 pounds since January 2012.have gone from hard core couch potatoes to complete exercise junkies, from sitting on the couch watching TV and stuffing our faces to running triathlons, biking, road races, kayaking, walking, weight lifting, hiking. Life is good.
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I'm ending the season with a bang, although early. NC Sprint Triathlon Championship on August 31st and then a 200 mile Bike ride the following weekend September 7the and 8th.


Love the plan, Rick. You've got the whole fall lined up! Good luck next weekend with the Sprint Tri Championship. Let us know how it goes.

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Well I did my 3 mile roadrace tonight yes I said 3 I don't now why they just dont't make it 3.1 for a 5K but they also have a 5 miler on the same night. I was really suprised and happy with my actual time. I know I have to add 48 seconds for the 10th of a mile to make it a 5k time but I was also surprised on how I ran the last mile after downloading my Garmin. The course was either short or I lost my signal going through the trees because it said I only ran 2.85 miles

Anyway - Steve try and figure this one out. I knew I was running with a good stride that last mile but I really didn't think there would have been that much of a differnce with my other splits.

8:34 - 8:34 and then a 6:51

Total time 24:01 but has my mile average at 8:27. which equates to more to a 8:06 last mile.

I think I like this run less run faster stuff and it is just beginning,




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Well I did my 3 mile roadrace tonight
8:34 - 8:34 and then a 6:51

Total time 24:01 but has my mile average at 8:27. which equates to more to a 8:06 last mile.

I think I like this run less run faster stuff and it is just beginning,




James--

Nice run. You must have really put the push on in the final mile. Your HR rate spikes pretty high in the last mile which shows you were really putting out the effort. The work you're doing in training at faster paces looks to be showing up in your race times.

If your Garmin was correct on distance, would that put your final mile split at about a 7:30?

Question: what was your pre-race warm up? I'm wondering if part of your big increase in pace was your body adjusting to the work and then allowing you to really open it up for the last mile. I'll usually jog for at least 10 minutes (15 is ideal) and include several sprint pick ups at race pace to try to get the blood moving in my leg muscles so they are ready to go to work...especially on a 5k which pretty much requires hitting it hard from the very start.

The other question I have is what were you thinking about pacing as the race unfolded. We're you intentionally holding something back for the final mile or was your goal to run a consistent pace that just got much faster toward the end? I've come to approach 5K and 10K races differently. In a 10K I'm focused on running a slower pace (to not blow up) so I can gradually build the pace through the run hitting my strongest pace in the last third. For a 5K, I'm usually thinking about starting pretty hard and then do everything I can to hold that pace for the full three miles...with maybe a little push in the last half mile if any speed is left in the tank.

Bottom line: if you can run mile 3 on a 5k at a +/-7:00 pace, then I think it's a reasonable goal to run the full 5K at a 7:40 pace or faster. That would give you a longer term 5K goal of training to break 24 minutes. Something to shoot for...

In any case, nice work and congratulations on a fine race

Best,

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2013-08-25 8:20 PM
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does anyone have any good resources/guidance that will help improve speed during freestyle? I am considerably slower this year than last year. i have swam alot less due to multiple issues. i just had a session with the coach for our local masters swim club. she gave me some good instruction, and said she thought my speed will increase again with just more time in the pool. do you think that is true? i have a difficult time getting to the pool for masters swim. also, our coaches give very little, if any, correction or guidance during our sessions. it is good to swim with others - but i am with other women my age who are also slow. are there more efficient approaches to improving swimming? has anyone been to a swim camp or taken total immersion swim course?


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Originally posted by charlotte hobbs does anyone have any good resources/guidance that will help improve speed during freestyle? I am considerably slower this year than last year. i have swam alot less due to multiple issues. i just had a session with the coach for our local masters swim club. she gave me some good instruction, and said she thought my speed will increase again with just more time in the pool. do you think that is true? i have a difficult time getting to the pool for masters swim. also, our coaches give very little, if any, correction or guidance during our sessions. it is good to swim with others - but i am with other women my age who are also slow. are there more efficient approaches to improving swimming? has anyone been to a swim camp or taken total immersion swim course?

Hi Charlotte,

This deserves a more detailed response than I can give you in the couple of minutes I have, so later this afternoon I will sit and hopefully offer a couple little pointers.  In the meantime, you might go to the 'Swim Technique' page of my website, http://goscottgo.info/index.php/swimming-technique.  That covers some of the basics.

Be back soon.

2013-08-26 12:00 PM
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I did my first run in my new stability shoes.  After talking to a number of people including a podiatrist, a sports med doc, and my coach I went with the Brooks Beast.  My understanding is that it offers the most stability of any shoe available.

At any rate, after about a mile, I had aches and pains that I had never had before.  I am thinking this is likely because my feet are now in the proper alignment and stressing the muscles in new and exciting ways.

My question:  Would it be wise to wear the shoes for the next several days during the day (not necessarily running) and just do short runs for the next week or so and let my leg muscles adapt to the new position?

Thanks - gotta go to work now.  Work is SO getting in the way of training!

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James--


Question: what was your pre-race warm up?

The other question I have is what were you thinking about pacing as the race unfolded. We're you intentionally holding something back for the final mile or was your goal to run a consistent pace that just got much faster toward the end?

Steve



What are you psychic or something? I never did a pre-race routine before, being a newbie I always wanted to save all my energy for the race. This was the first time I ever even attempted to do a warm up which was pretty whimpy anyway. I just jogged about a quarter mile but then a friend told me to do about 3 - 50 yard windsprints which I think actually helped get the legs ready for the start. As far as pacing my thoughts were to try and get my breathing up to what I was doing on the track for my 800s and then see what I had at the end. Doing the track work really paid off because I was comfortable at a faster pace where as in past races I felt like I was in a foreign country or even on another planet. Well I started about mid pack and got boxed in during the first half mile but then got into stride. At about 1.5 miles I picked it up a little bit but then started to really push that last mile. I just remmember my firend MIchael saying he hated seeing people finishing with a kick passing people the last few yards. He says that just means they didn't run the race as fast as they should have. With about a quarter mile to go I saw a guy with a bald spot on the back of his head and thought he would be in my age group but he was too far ahead to catch with the distance we had left. Well I almost got him, he beat me by 4 seconds and got 1st in my AG, Oh well, with my new found training methodology and friends on BT I'll get him next race. The funny thing was my wife and youngest boy asked me what time to expect me in and I said 28 miniutes. They saw me coming towards the finish and there was only 23 something on the clock and they said holy crap here he comes and they almost didn't get the camera out in time. Anyway, very excited about the time and really looking forward to doing some serious run less run faster training. Thank you soooooo much Steve!!!!!

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What are you psychic or something? I never did a pre-race routine before, being a newbie I always wanted to save all my energy for the race. This was the first time I ever even attempted to do a warm up which was pretty whimpy anyway. I just jogged about a quarter mile but then a friend told me to do about 3 - 50 yard windsprints which I think actually helped get the legs ready for the start. As far as pacing my thoughts were to try and get my breathing up to what I was doing on the track for my 800s and then see what I had at the end. Doing the track work really paid off because I was comfortable at a faster pace where as in past races I felt like I was in a foreign country or even on another planet.


Hey James:

Well, I was just thinking about how well you ran after two miles into your race and I started wondering if maybe part of the reason the first miles were slower was your body was cold. Like you, I didn't used to warm up much before races because I was worried about wasting energy. But over the years I've really discovered how important it is to properly warm up. I can run (and swim for that matter) much faster with a lower heart rate after a good warm up vs. what I can do if I try to perform at the same level but start out fairly cold. I've noticed this both on the track running intervals as well as swimming sprints at the pool. I'm sure Scott has plenty of experience on the pool side of this equation and he will agree.

For me before a race, I will run easy for at least 10-12 minutes....hardly enough to break out of zone 2, but definitely enough to raise the HR. After 12 minutes of light running I'll continue the run with several pick ups, where over the course of about 100 yards I gradually increase the pace up to my target race pace and then immediately start to slow it down back to easy pace. Total warm up time is 15 minutes or so with the goal being to get a light sweat going just before the race starts and have my legs ready to run.

It's also very important to warm up before track workouts as well. You'll want to get at least one mile of easy running in...preferably 1.5 miles before starting any intervals. And always cool down with an easy mile when you're done with the interval session to help flush out any lactic acid in your muscles.

You may have only scratched the surface of your capabilities! It's amazing what consistent track work can do in building your speed and endurance for faster paces.

Well done!

Steve
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I did my first run in my new stability shoes. .

At any rate, after about a mile, I had aches and pains that I had never had before.  I am thinking this is likely because my feet are now in the proper alignment and stressing the muscles in new and exciting ways.

My question:  Would it be wise to wear the shoes for the next several days during the day (not necessarily running) and just do short runs for the next week or so and let my leg muscles adapt to the new position?

Thanks - gotta go to work now.  Work is SO getting in the way of training!




Hey Scott:

I always wear my running shoes for several weeks prior to taking them out running. That's probably overkill, but I really feel like I want to break down the shoes a little while allowing them to adapt to my feet. This is especially true if you don't have custom insoles because the flat insole (that is brand new with your shoes) has to gradually be compressed to match the form of your foot. Until that happens it's pretty common to get hot spots where the insole rubs.

So, I try to buy my new shoes several weeks before I'll need to run in them so I can just wear them around for the break in process.

One thing you might try is to pull out the insole from your new shoes and replace it with the insole from a pair of old running shoes that you've worn for a while that are comfortable. You'll still have the stability support of your new shoes but the foot bed liner will already be compressed to match the form of your foot.

The other part is stability shoes tend to have a slightly larger heel drop. If you're used to running in flatter shoes it is a different foot position and could cause some discomfort.

Hang in there. Don't let work totally derail your training!

Best,

Steve


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Originally posted by charlotte hobbs does anyone have any good resources/guidance that will help improve speed during freestyle? I am considerably slower this year than last year. i have swam alot less due to multiple issues. i just had a session with the coach for our local masters swim club. she gave me some good instruction, and said she thought my speed will increase again with just more time in the pool. do you think that is true? i have a difficult time getting to the pool for masters swim. also, our coaches give very little, if any, correction or guidance during our sessions. it is good to swim with others - but i am with other women my age who are also slow. are there more efficient approaches to improving swimming? has anyone been to a swim camp or taken total immersion swim course?

Hi Charlotte.

I have a couple thoughts that I would like to share.  Obviously I have not seen you swim.  So my comments are generalities based on my own swimming career and experience over the years working with hundreds of different people.

I will start kind of 'at the end' and then work backwards.

I am not a fan of the total immersion method.  That said, there are some who swear by the program.  My problem with it is that, EVERY SINGLE person I have worked with that had gone through total immersion had a boatload of bad habits that had to be broken before any substantive progress could be made.  A couple of examples, WAY too much glide in the water, entry was way too close to the top of the head, and recovery began before complete extension.  I have seen all of those three examples in literally dozens of different individuals.  So, judge for yourself, but my personal opinion, for what it is worth, is that total immersion creates as many problems as it solves.

Now to your main question.  You said, "I am considerably slower this year than last year. i have swam alot less due to multiple issues."  Sadly there is no magic bullet.  To retain your speed you have to continue to put in the yards.  However, significant gains can be had by improving your stroke mechanics and having a more efficient stroke.  Beginning swimmers and the VAST majority of triathletes, especially the triathletes that did not begin life as a swimmer 'beat the water into submission.'  I am not trying to be snarky so please don't take it that way.  What I mean is, their stroke is too short and their turnover is too fast.  The majority of people are under the mistaken impression that 'faster is faster.'  It is not!

A longer, smoother stroke with proper body roll will be faster.  In my opinion, body roll is the single most important aspect of the freestyle stroke.  With proper body roll, you can achieve full extension prior to the catch.  Proper body roll will also help to achieve full extension at the end of the stroke by placing a physical ‘marker’ that is impossible to miss – specifically brushing your thumb against your hip as you begin your recovery.  Or to think of it another way, dragging your hip out of the way with your thumb.  The other thing that body roll does is that it facilitates proper leg position.  It is nearly impossible to drop your legs and have proper body roll.

When you are swimming there are two main things that you must be cognizant of - 1) you are applying force to the water to move water backward and propel yourself forward.  2)  any drag will work against your forward momentum and require additional force to be applied to the water.

All the subtleties of stroke mechanics are directly addressing those two thoughts.  Body roll allows you to roll into the stroke and generates a longer stroke – that time that you are applying force to the water.  Body roll also helps keep your legs up, reducing drag.

Again, I will say, if you go to the ‘Swim Technique’ section on my website at http://goscottgo.info/index.php/swimming-technique I describe both body roll and the freestyle stroke in detail.

Without having seen you swim, I can all but guarantee that if you work on your body roll and lengthening your stroke you will improve your efficiency, increase your speed, and reduce fatigue as you swim.  Unfortunately, you’re still going to have to put in the yards though.  Sorry!

Hope that helps a bit.

 

 

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Subject: RE: Another weekend arrives!
Originally posted by k9car363

Originally posted by charlotte hobbs does anyone have any good resources/guidance that will help improve speed during freestyle? I am considerably slower this year than last year. i have swam alot less due to multiple issues. i just had a session with the coach for our local masters swim club. she gave me some good instruction, and said she thought my speed will increase again with just more time in the pool. do you think that is true? i have a difficult time getting to the pool for masters swim. also, our coaches give very little, if any, correction or guidance during our sessions. it is good to swim with others - but i am with other women my age who are also slow. are there more efficient approaches to improving swimming? has anyone been to a swim camp or taken total immersion swim course?


However, significant gains can be had by improving your stroke mechanics and having a more efficient stroke.  Beginning swimmers and the VAST majority of triathletes, especially the triathletes that did not begin life as a swimmer 'beat the water into submission.' 



Charlotte:

I agree with Scott. Mechanics are critical. The problem for me was I couldn't self-correct. No matter how many articles I read and videos that I watched, I couldn't understand what I was doing wrong. For me, it was like trying to comb my hair without a mirror by reading a book about it, If you can't see your your mistakes it's hard to improve.

I was able to find a decent local coach to work with me a little. She was able to immediately spot my stroke flaws and teach me how to start to make corrections. And after the changes I found was I was working less strenuously, stroking slightly slower, but moving faster through the water. It's amazing. I'm still slow (relative to Scott), but I at least get out of the water now feeling good versus feeling totally spent.

A few 30 minute sessions with a coach would probably help tremendously. After that, you just have to find a way to get tine in the pool.

Good luck.

Steve

2013-08-27 3:20 PM
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So James... you chase men with bald spots, eh? .......hahahaha

I chase slightly overweight women (assuming they r prolly in my AG.) LOL

So this off season is the one when I AM learning proper body roll (and flip turn).
Thx for pushing that Scott.

I hv been maintaining my same old same old trng................ Lake ows 30 min, hour bike ride and 30 min at the track on alternating days.

I ran a seven mile trail loop the other day..was fun.

I worked a tri last weekend. Wished I had taken my bike with me..it was inside a state park. Some safe riding .

I guess as far as goals.....work on getting my ppm time down. Hv a tuesday track training gp. I can chase after but they run at 530 am yr rnd. and I do not do cold weather so I figure i hv two months with them tops.

As far as cycling, been wishing could find wider shoes. I hv Specialized mens mtn bike shoes right now.

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Subject: RE: chasing.....etc.
Originally posted by dustytrails

So James... you chase men with bald spots, eh? .......hahahaha

I chase slightly overweight women (assuming they r prolly in my AG.) LOL




Too freakin funny!

Sounds like that ankle is getting better - congrats!

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