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2011-01-23 12:27 PM
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30 min on the trainer followed by 17 on the treddy. Good brick for me as I have not done a true brick for a while. I really tried to push a bit hard on the bike and shifted up into some high greas to simulate some hill climbing. I felt a little wobbly as I was transitioning between the bike and the treddy, but once I got running I was fine.
 I highly recomend NOT trying to go fold laundry immediatley after finishing a brick. I was way too sweaty and had to finish after my shower.



2011-01-23 12:31 PM
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rizer22 - 2011-01-23 9:15 AM
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Just keep at it.  I used TI and went from basically yacking in the gutter t swimming a mile straight within 3 weeks.  Its funny - are you a COnencticut guy (I thought I read that somewhere)?


Yup, I am a CT guy.  Plainfield, CT, northeast part of the state. 

Artist, thanks for the tip.  I can use anything for tips on swimming.  The strength isn't the problem, it's the breathing properly, so that'll help


Plainfield, is that even Conn?  more like Rhode ISland
If youd like, your more than welcome to join me for a swim and I can giveyou a few thoughts that have worked for me.  I am no swim guru, but I am totally self taught and have gone from nothing typically back-of-the-front of the pack in 4 years. maybe we can even convice Kelly (a real swimmer to giveus some tips)  



Pretty close to RI.  about 10 minutes away, and about 25 from Mass.  Do you swim in New Haven, and where?  I sell insurance for a living, primarily small-large commercial accounts, and dabble in personal lines a bit.  My point is, I cover most of CT, RI, and parts of MA.  Actually, I stay out of Fairfield County, and Northwestern CT for the most part. 

Do you swim during the day?  Pending my schedule, I could meet somewhere out that way during the day.  Nights are tough with two young kids.


pick a weekend when things aren't too crazy if you'd like, how old are your kids?  Mine are 7 and 2.5 year old girls.  my gym has great babysitting.
2011-01-23 12:31 PM
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Since we have several women in our group-does anyone have any suggestions for a good brand of tri shorts. I bought some off of bonktown that had a low rise cut. For me and my well defined booty and a bit of a gut-not a good fit (think plumber). I bought some from Aevero that I love but they are no longer selling tri shorts. Not good to only have one pair that fits.
2011-01-23 12:35 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2011-01-23 7:59 AM Just did intervals on the bike.  Its -1 here, so I'm heading to gym for 10 miles on the treadmill.  Whooo hoooo.


I ended up doing an hour outside at 9 (about 10 degrees at that point).  it was pretty uncomfortable when the wind was in my face with the wind it wasn't bad.  I wore a UA base layer, my long sleeve bike jersey, tech jacket with a bright yellow wind breaker (you know the one), lined sweats and running tights, a nech gator, hat, ski gloves and sun glasses.  Candidly, I wish I had one of those serial killer ski masks  because my cheeks were cold into the wind, my hands were boiling.  If I had a proper face mask I would have been fine for however many miles.  I did 6 outside and anotehr 3 on the tread mill.  Wasn;t that bad. 

Now, I'm cooked.  football and chilli this afternoon
2011-01-23 12:40 PM
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weigh in time. 

I'm at 224, moving in the right direction.  I posted on the tri forum regarding the sugar cravings I tend to have at night.  people had some very good suggestions on how to tackle those.

Kelly - talk to us about protein, carbs and fat and all that nutrition stuff (Kelly has a great nutritionist and I am always trying to get free advice!)
2011-01-23 12:47 PM
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rizer22 - 2011-01-23 9:11 AM 45 Minutes on the trainer this morning, and 25 on the treadmill.  Free showtime for three months with Direct TV is helping run on that thing.

My focus by the end of today is to import an actual training plan.  My consistency has been paying off though.  I feel I am getting stronger and faster.  Maybe a slow process, but it's working


I learned the joy of Hulu playlists yesterday.  The shows that Kel and I normally watch aren't available on the media-based (PS3) Hulu, only over the web.  So, I made a Hulu playlist, hooked up the computer to the TV and used the TV as the monitor while we watched.

It certainly made the trainer ride easier.


2011-01-23 2:24 PM
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Artist - I have a few pairs of tri shorts, and I splurged (about $90 if I can recall) last year at some expo and got a pair of zoot compression tri shorts.  They are by far my favorite.  I'll look for the model number if I remember.   
2011-01-23 2:33 PM
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Grilledmonkey - 2011-01-23 6:14 AM I've really struggled to get motivated so far this year and last week i totally fell of the wagon. I know that exercising will help improve my mood but i lack the motivation to get me out there in the first place. Having a house move mean i miss most of the Tri season hasnt helped much either. Other than "just do it" anyone got suggestions on how to gee myself up?


I know I ALWAYS feel better after any sort of workout, whether I felt like doing it or not. Maybe set some mini-goals to give you something to achieve or look forward to?  
2011-01-23 2:35 PM
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Artist - 2011-01-23 11:31 AM Since we have several women in our group-does anyone have any suggestions for a good brand of tri shorts. I bought some off of bonktown that had a low rise cut. For me and my well defined booty and a bit of a gut-not a good fit (think plumber). I bought some from Aevero that I love but they are no longer selling tri shorts. Not good to only have one pair that fits.


I'm no woman, but I've always really like the Pearl Izumi ones and recently got some Zoot off of Bonktown that are awesome. 
2011-01-23 2:47 PM
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rizer22 - 2011-01-22 11:15 AM OK, so much better at swim today, being only my second time ever, trying to do lap swim.  I officially suck at swimming.   Unfortunately, I can only swim once a week.  The pool don't open for my regular 5am workouts.  so looks like it is just saturdays.

I did a little better with breathing, but still taking in a little bit of water.  I have no idea how far I swam.  Continued for about 30 minutes, but with plenty of breaks.

There were about 6 people today, clearly all experience swimmers, so I just paid attention to them. 


I'll preface this by saying I'm no expert (no one would mistake me for one!) or coach or anything of the sort.

Something that has helped ME is to think/visualize breathing to my shoulder or "behind" me when I inhale. It's helped me keep from raising my head up (I think) and lets me get a good breath in as well. I try to think about looking back when I take a breath.

As far as taking in a little water, I was thinking about that today when I swam. I, too, get a tiny bit in, but a do a little "spit" out as I first start to exhale, then continue to exhale through my nose the entire time, until it's time to roll for another.

I noticed today, that when I concentrated on my breathing form, I kept my times down by about 4-5 seconds per 25yds. Maybe it's keeping me in a better streamlined form or something...well, as streamlined as *I* can be, anyway! 
2011-01-23 4:08 PM
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ok, they clxed the long ride today because it was too cold.....only in florida. So I went latter by myself I did 26 miles and I wore layers so the cold wasn't that bad but, the wind is what kills it seemed like to was in my face in ever direction. I really wanted to increase my distance so in addition I did an hour long spin class. so the day wasn't a total loss.

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2011-01-23 4:11 PM
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My wght is 225.

2011-01-23 5:59 PM
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pbrown70 - 2011-01-23 5:08 PM ok, they clxed the long ride today because it was too cold.....only in florida. So I went latter by myself I did 26 miles and I wore layers so the cold wasn't that bad but, the wind is what kills it seemed like to was in my face in ever direction. I really wanted to increase my distance so in addition I did an hour long spin class. so the day wasn't a total loss.


what is "cold" in florida?  under 60?
2011-01-23 6:43 PM
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Here is my guilt trip I use, but doesn't work on everybody - using visuals for guilt

I focus on having all pink squares on my calendar and feel totally guilty if I miss a day at all.  I have never done a fully pink month, but am closing in on one.  You don't have to get crazy, but get at least 5-10 minutes a day in, then I think it will start to fall into place.
2011-01-23 6:46 PM
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I use the 2xu tri shorts with pockets and love them.  I find that not much at all works on a trainer in the winter, so I double up in the winter, but they work awesome during the summer.

Also, with the pockets, I usually stuff a gel or some blocks in the pockets of the shorts so as I am running out of the water, I am eating the gel or blocks (multi tasking) so I don't have to worry about it when I get to transition or right when I get on the bike.  It also give me a few extra minutes head start for that energy.
2011-01-23 6:47 PM
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Bad week, well not so bad, 179 and holding . . .


2011-01-23 6:59 PM
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Swim breathing ------ the one thing I would add about swim breathing is paying attention to your body rotating and your pull through the water.

For example, if you have access to a pull buoy (this will exaggerate, but you will notice it more) use it and try to do a slow swim (slow so you don't get tired and can focus on the motions).  Really concentrate on your pull through the water and your body rotating.  When your right arm is in the water doing the pull, you should get almost enough rotation to the right that you will not have to turn your head that much to grab a breath.  The stronger your pull, and the better your motion and rotation the less effort it will be for you to try to breathe.  Most newer swimmers will still lift their head further for that breath, but don't worry about it.  Just get comfortable with breathing.  I also like the pull buoy because it taxes your cardio less as well.

Don't use a pull buoy very long, and I don't suggest right now doing it with any harder efforts --- it will hamper the development of your kick and if your body is not ready, can hurt your shoulders because of the stress it places on them.

Let me know if this works -- I just find it you can focus on one thing at a time, it is easier to improve and get comfortable.

2011-01-23 7:52 PM
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Wht 131 still. Eating clean.

Ran 6.17 in 20 degree this am. Slow run bc I did it with a friend. Easy though, could have kept on going but she was done.
2011-01-23 8:03 PM
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Thanks for the shorts info-I will look into these suggestions for sure.
2011-01-23 8:41 PM
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weigh in:

212...added a pound


but got in two good workouts today, swim earlier, then a trainer ride while watching some of the 2nd game this evening. 
2011-01-23 10:43 PM
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training plan question:

One day a week (like today) I have a bike and swim both scheduled. Would it be "ok" to ride my bike to the gym, swim, and ride home? I think the riding times would be pretty close to the plan, if not longer, actually. Heck, I'd bet I might be doubling up on some of the weeks when it's a shorter ride time. 


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Went for a swim tonight, i'm glad i went i definatly feel better =)

Weight today is 63.1kg or 139pounds so i've over-shot my goal! Time for maintenance now

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abqtj - 2011-01-24 11:43 AM training plan question:

One day a week (like today) I have a bike and swim both scheduled. Would it be "ok" to ride my bike to the gym, swim, and ride home? I think the riding times would be pretty close to the plan, if not longer, actually. Heck, I'd bet I might be doubling up on some of the weeks when it's a shorter ride time. 


I do this all the time haha. I ride to the pools, swim, then ride home. Or i ride to work (which means the training is split into two stints but i still get the km's in). I find it the best way of saving time, it may not be the best way to train but it means training doesnt take up all my spare hours Smile
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abqtj - 2011-01-23 11:43 PM training plan question:

One day a week (like today) I have a bike and swim both scheduled. Would it be "ok" to ride my bike to the gym, swim, and ride home? I think the riding times would be pretty close to the plan, if not longer, actually. Heck, I'd bet I might be doubling up on some of the weeks when it's a shorter ride time. 


It depends.  If the ride is a recovery/aerobic ride (Z1/Z2) there's usually no issue splitting it up because its just about time in the saddle () and spinning your legs.  If its a tempo or interval type ride you should try no to split it up.  But remember if its the difference between riding and not riding its better to ride.
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jsklarz - 2011-01-23 1:40 PM weigh in time. 

I'm at 224, moving in the right direction.  I posted on the tri forum regarding the sugar cravings I tend to have at night.  people had some very good suggestions on how to tackle those.

Kelly - talk to us about protein, carbs and fat and all that nutrition stuff (Kelly has a great nutritionist and I am always trying to get free advice!)


Here's the most recent post on by (www.purringhedgehog.com) about nutrition and re-tooling:

As I have mentioned, at the moment, my biggest limiter is my body composition. I have somewhere between 25-40 pounds to loose in order to be at "race weight" -- that is the weight at which I will race the fastest. I'm having a body fat test done on Sunday, which will help me get a better handle on what my race weight should be, but its probably in the range of 135-140 pounds (unfortunately right now I'm sitting at 166lbs on my 5' 8" frame). Generally speaking, I'm a really good eater, I don't eat grains or processed carbohydrates expect for immediately before, during and immediately after training, I don't eat any processed food except for training aids (such as gels and sports drink), I eat lots of fresh fruits and vegetable, I avoid added sugar and I never touch alcohol. Despite this fact I haven't been able to drop weight over the last six months, so on the recommendations of Leslie Reap who works with QT2 and The Core Diet were re-tooling my diet.

First of all Leslie has added two supplements : probiotics and chia seeds. Probiotics are live microorganisms thought to be healthy for the host organism (and in my specific case to aid in digestion). There are all types of priobiotic supplements out there, the one I picked up was the generic Vitamin Shoppe brand. Then there are chia seeds. Yes, these are the very same seeds you use to make you chi-chi-chia pet grow. Little did I know that chia seeds contain protein, omega-3 oil, fiber, antioxidants, vitamins and calcium and, once eaten, chia seeds provide energy, lessen the
risk of cardiovascular disease, stabilize blood sugar, provide the daily requirements of fiber, vitamins and aid in weight loss.
I'm just hoping I'll be able to swallow them.

Second, and hardest for me, we're eliminating dairy from my diet. No milk, no cheese, no yogurt (even Greek yogurt) and no cottage cheese. This also means I'll be switching from whey and casein protein to hemp protein. Leslie recommended using almond milk as a substitute. I haven't tried it yet but we'll see how it goes. I'm going to miss dairy but if it helps with my body composition, its well worth it.

Third we're eliminating all drinkable calories -- no more orange juice or apple juice before a training session and no more milk. I still get liquid calories in form of sports drink during training and recovery drink post-training but otherwise I'll be drinking water, tea, coffee (on a limited basis) and using almond milk to mix with my hemp protein powder.

Finally, Leslie wants me to add in more raw vegetables. So lots of celery, carrot sticks, peppers, cucumbers and mixed greens. Not the easiest thing to do during the winter in New England, but should make for creative shopping trips.

We're going to try these changes for two weeks and see what happens, then re-tweak as necessary. I'm hoping to be able to report positive changes.
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