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junthank - 2009-02-01 4:36 PMp>To my fellow G-Man mentoree's - your day is coming. I can't wait to cheer you on. You going to love the experience.

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Run - 30m  3.13 miles 09m 36s/Mi
Min HR: 69
Avg HR: 149
Max HR: 157

 

Mojo is start'n to kick in......  Felt good out there today!

2009-02-02 6:48 PM
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41m 10s 4.00 miles 10m 17s/Mi
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Weather was nasty today so a run on the treadmill was the option I picked. HR data:

@10 142
@21 141
@32 146
@41 forgot

Run/Walk ratio 10:0.75

2009-02-02 7:13 PM
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Lunchtime - strength workout

Evening - Bike Trainer - Efficiency drills

30 mins

15 min warmup Avg HR 125

4 min @ 90 rpm - Avg HR 142

3 min @ 100 rpm - Avg HR 151

2 min @ 110 rpm (TOUGH) - Avg HR 158

6 min cooldown  Avg HR 146

Cadence last 6 min avg 92. Felt SLOW Cool

 

Followed with stretching and core 1 workout.

 

2009-02-02 10:13 PM
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Cardholic - 2009-02-02 11:24 AM

Sorry in advance for the long post, and so many questions… I have a lot going on…

I did my first official Brick work-out... the Bike portion was AWESOME 14.5 miles in 66 minutes with hills! but apparently I left it all on the bike... I got off the bike, and it took me about 3 minutes to start running. I ran for the first 5 minutes, and had to walk... then my shins starting hurting – I’m super sensitive to my shins since my stress fracture last may - so I ended up walking most of the 24 minutes (we were supposed to do 30 min... oops)

I feel like I failed the brick miserably... Next week is another Brick. 


The coach said I may be pointing my toes on the bike... Could that be the issue? After reading what you wrote to kaiserman19. I’m wondering if I have a “fit” problem on my bike… I haven’t gotten professionally fitted and I’m not sure if I put my cleats on my shoes in an optimum way. I am using the Shimano SPD-SL 540 pedals.

I went to the LRS yesterday, and after trying out tons of shoes, we settled on Motion Control shoes, which is a switch from Stability shoes for me... so I did a VERY slow - with lots of walking breaks - run this morning.

After the first mile, my shins were hurting a bit, so I walked most of the 2nd mile - I was gonna give up and go home, but I was feeling pretty good towards the end of the 2nd mile, so I kept going… I did 3 more miles with walk breaks for a total of 5 miles. By the end of my run, I was feeling pretty confident about the new shoes.

My next run is another Brick... I’d like to rotate my shoes, but I kinda want to run in the Motion Control to see how they do on the brick.... Both shoes are New Balance (1225 & 1101)... Any advice is appreciated.

I’ll do the exercises that you recommended to kaiserman19 as my LRS salesman recommended very similar exercises… so that’s a start J

 Brick Tips!

 The difficulties you experienced are normal -- remember to use run:walk and (even more important) remember to walk the first TEN minutes of your run off the bike, even in the race.  This will make a HUGE difference for you.  Be sure to try next time and report back.

 Generally speaking, make sure that your cleat is set as far back as it will go.  Where is your cleat right now?

 Sounds like you are feeling better following your run today.  Remember that we all experience tough workouts -- learn from them (like you did) and keep on going.

 Try the walking -- I do it and it really works.

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2009-02-02 10:19 PM
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DGubner - 2009-02-02 11:35 AM

G,
I have an indoor cycling questions for you.  Right now I've been focusing on increasing cadence and doing one leg drills (usually twice per week).  On Saturday I do a longer aerobic ride(warm-up and a 30-60' ride in steady zone @ 80rpm).  All three of these workouts are in a really low (ie easy) gear.   After looking at the bike workouts posted on your site.....

Question:  As a total newbie should I include "Big Gear" Training in one of my 3 weekly bike workouts?  If so how, would I begin incorporating this? Any HR suggstions?

Question 2:  What is the best way to prepare for hills if you can only ride inside?

Thanks
Doug G

 Hey Doug,

 First up, your existing program looks good to me.  So you don't "need" to change.

 Q1 -- More than jumping to Big Gear -- what you can try is changing your cadence during your steady ride -- keep the steady effort and shift your cadence range -- start with moving between, ~68 rpm and ~92 rpm // if you were going to ride steady for 40 minutes then you could change every 5 minutes.  You'll be surprised at how it changes the workout for you.  Also makes the time go faster... you can mix it up just like swimming...

 5/5/4/4/3/3/2/2/1/1 -- that's 30 mins

 2/4/6/8/8/6/4/2 -- that's 40 mins

 You are really only limited by your imagination.  With the cadence -- my personal goal is to be comfortable with every cadence from 55-95 rpm -- there are benefits to training a wide range // as well as training different cycling positions (TT, sit up, stand).

 Q2 -- indoor hill training // yellow pages under the front wheel, sit up, ride with an open chest, relaxed shoulders // that will help but... there's a guy that posts a lot on the main board that has a sig file that says something like... best way to improve at hills is to ride hills.... I'd probably agree with him.  I'd also advise HUMBLE gearing for when you start.

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2009-02-02 10:23 PM
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GONE WALKABOUT

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 Team,

 Off to Fowler-Hilliard Hut in the Rockies for Tues/Wednesday -- heading out with my pal (Marky V) who is back from a two week training camp in Kona (article on XTri).  He tells me that he's more into sightseeing than training but I suspect he's packed his A-Game.

 I won't be back on BT until Thursday so take care.  For those of you that sent me book orders prior to the end of Sunday, we shipped all those today.  Next wave will head out on Friday.

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2009-02-03 1:05 PM
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G.  ENJOY!

28 min swim, and a 1 hr spin today.

HR DATA FOR SPIN 2/3

START:  83;  10 MIN:  132;  20 MIN:  136;  30 MIN:  150; 40 MIN:  141; 50 MIN:  142; 60 MIN/END:  100.  put my quickness practice to good use today.  several rounds of 'false flats' (quick cadence, med resistance)

SWIM WRKOUT

1050 yds total

2X50 WARMUP

1X50 RIGHT ARM/1X50 LFT ARM

2X50 PULL

2X50 KICK

2X50 SCULL

100 YD ENDURANCE

2X50

2X100 IM (w water polo swim sub for fly)

2x50 SPL  (22SPL)

1x50 COOL DOWN

swim golf:  45 strokes/56 secs (50 yds)  i really concentrated on quick turn over and reaching as far out w my stroke as possible ie getting the most out of my stroke.

two good solid workouts today.



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2009-02-03 2:11 PM
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Today I added weights back into my work out routine, I am happy with my upperbody work out, but I had questions about my leg workout. 

Right now, I do squats, leg press, leg extensions, leg curls, straight leg dead lift. 

Are these exercises ok, am I working the legs too much, any exercises you would drop or add?

 Thanks.

2009-02-03 2:44 PM
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Morning

25 minute run

50% - 60% 115 - 128 01m 58s
60% - 70% 128 - 141 21m 07s
70% - 80% 141 - 154 02m 49s

Lunchtim

Swim 28:06 swim - 900 yards

1x 200 Warmup
6x50 on 30 sec rest - Avg 55 sec\500
1x200 Drills
4x25 Sprint. 25 sec\25 yards
1x100 cooldown 

 

 

2009-02-03 3:52 PM
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Swam 2000 yrds in 43 min.

5 X 400

 



2009-02-03 4:57 PM
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skrtrnr - 2009-02-03 2:05 PM

G.  ENJOY!

28 min swim, and a 1 hr spin today.

HR DATA FOR SPIN 2/3

START:  83;  10 MIN:  132;  20 MIN:  136;  30 MIN:  150; 40 MIN:  141; 50 MIN:  142; 60 MIN/END:  100.  put my quickness practice to good use today.  several rounds of 'false flats' (quick cadence, med resistance)

SWIM WRKOUT

1050 yds total

2X50 WARMUP

1X50 RIGHT ARM/1X50 LFT ARM

2X50 PULL

2X50 KICK

2X50 SCULL

100 YD ENDURANCE

2X50

2X100 IM (w water polo swim sub for fly)

2x50 SPL  (22SPL)

1x50 COOL DOWN

swim golf:  45 strokes/56 secs (50 yds)  i really concentrated on quick turn over and reaching as far out w my stroke as possible ie getting the most out of my stroke.

two good solid workouts today.

 

You didn't waste anytime getting back into the groove after your taper week.  WOW.

 

Jeff

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45m 10.80 miles 14.40 Mi/hr
10:00 AM  

On the stationary at the gym. I've never intentionally done any cadence work so I tried a little today. Normally on the stationary I just set the level up and pedal at the same cadence the entire workout. So today I experimented and found out that I normally pedal around 60-65rpm's given the level that I choose. Today I thru in a couple 80-82 rpm's in 2 minute rep's (at a lower difficulty level). Mixing it up a little!!!

15m 1.58 miles 09m 29s/Mi
10:45 AM  

On the elliptical.

2009-02-04 6:24 AM
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junthank - 2009-02-03 4:57 PM

You didn't waste anytime getting back into the groove after your taper week.  WOW.

Jeff

i was gonna say,

LOOK AT YOU GETTING BACK AT IT AFTER YOUR RACE!

seems that were both ON OUR WAY, UPWARD! 

stacieb



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Swam 2000 yrds in 43 min.

5 X 400

WOW!  JOHN.  WHAT A WORKOUT!  you were CRUSIN'! 

dreamin of the day i hit 2000.Laughing 

2009-02-04 12:01 PM
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Swam 2000 yrds in 43 min.

5 X 400

WOW!  JOHN.  WHAT A WORKOUT!  you were CRUSIN'! 

dreamin of the day i hit 2000.Laughing 

 

Aweeee.........Embarassed



2009-02-04 12:23 PM
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another splendid workout.

28 min run, 30 min ST&abwrk

HR DATA 28 MIN RUN 1/4

START:  79

10 MIN:  115  5.0

6 MIN:  140/130  5.0

13 MIN:  140/132  5.2

20 MIN:  146/135  5.2

27 MIN:  145/135  4.0

4/END:  100

AV:  132

PK:  148

slowing inching my way up distance-wise.  feels good.  after losing nearly all the ground i gained trng for my 1/2 marathon due to an injury, im feeling confident knowing that im 'online' and will hit all my distances for my events when the time comes.

i just keep working at it....consistency and persistence have their rewards 

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Bummer - Today things got all screwed up with my normal workout times.  Not much I could do about it.  Not going to sweat it.  No aerobic, but I was able to lift some.  So in my book that qualifies a non-zero day.  My legs probably could have used the day off.  Come back strong on Thursday.



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Just 20 min. on the trainer....little active rest session.  

 

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Hi all glad your training is going well despite the cold. Not long until race season Laughing

G,

I have been concentrating on long and slow which is working great, my long run is 14km and long swim 2km now which are both records for me, just got to sort the bike out now. My first race is 19th April (10wks) so was wondering when you suggest I start to do some speed work as I would like to do the race run at 5mins per km or better. my long runs are at 6 mins per km at the moment.

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junthank - 2009-02-04 6:16 PM

Bummer - Today things got all screwed up with my normal workout times.  Not much I could do about it.  Not going to sweat it.  No aerobic, but I was able to lift some.  So in my book that qualifies a non-zero day.  My legs probably could have used the day off.  Come back strong on Thursday.

JEFF.  SUCH a bummer when that happens, but WHAT a great attitude you have (i learned from you today...)

not going sweat it. 

did what you could.  [you betcha lifting counts]

then, back at it.

sounds like those legs of yours are trying to tell you something. 

you asked a A LOT from them on sunday.  and OH MY they performed well, didnt they?

KEEP MOVING FORWARD!

stacieb



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Writebrained - 2009-02-03 3:52 PM

Swam 2000 yrds in 43 min.

5 X 400

WOW!  JOHN.  WHAT A WORKOUT!  you were CRUSIN'! 

dreamin of the day i hit 2000.Laughing 

 

Aweeee.........Embarassed

KEEP BLAZIN' THE TRAIL...im right behind ya! 

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26m 21s 800.00 meters 03m 17s /100 meters
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Nothing but swim technique work today. That means only 3 stroke breathing, chin up chin down, arm pull, etc.. 3 intervals with one minute rest between.

1x200
1x400
1x200

I'm still having issues with my hips sinking when I take a breath. I really notice this on my off side. I think it's probably most related to my kick (or lack of kick I should say). I'll keep working on it.

41m 30s 4.00 miles 10m 23s/Mi
10:30 AM  

In the gym today. Mixture of 10:0.75 and 10:1 walk run ratio. My running HR was a little higher than normal. Went to 10:1 to help bring my HR down a bit. HR was:

@10 146
@21 152
@32 150
@41 I always forget to take the last one!!
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2200 yrds in 55 min.  - workout #14 (Endurance) - Swim Drills Book

 

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kaiserman19 - 2009-02-03 1:11 PM

Today I added weights back into my work out routine, I am happy with my upperbody work out, but I had questions about my leg workout. 

Right now, I do squats, leg press, leg extensions, leg curls, straight leg dead lift. 

Are these exercises ok, am I working the legs too much, any exercises you would drop or add?

 Thanks.

 Check this out for some ideas on extra exercises.  

 http://www.endurancecorner.com/library/strength_training/triathlon_strength_training

The one that I really like (a lot more than leg curls) is single leg bridges -- I'll get a video done of that exercise over the weekend -- remind me on Monday to post the link.

 Look at the videos and consider pull downs as well as dynamic lunges.  You'll get more tri benefit from either of these two than your straight leg DL.

 Feel free to follow up as required.

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