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 2010-07-29 1:02 PM in reply to: #3012384 |
Expert  701   Caratunk, Maine |  Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Threadacumenjay - 2010-07-29 1:55 PM Ben, welcome aboard. Here is a snapshot of the profile from maymyride. Most of you have probably seen this so sorry for redundancy. I suggest you map out some rides that you regularly do to compare the profile and train accordingly to give you a little confidence. http://www.mapmyride.com/route/united-states/nh/+gilford/589124795542111324 Also, don't think it was mentioned earlier but make sure you have enough gearing. I did it last year with a 53/39 and an 11/23 and it was a non-issue. This year I'm on a new bike and will either be going 50/34 11/23 or 12/25 (not sure yet and depends if I run a disc and don't feel like swapping the cassette). I'm pretty comfortable pushing a big gear though so if you want to make sure you can spin up it, you probably want to verify you have at least a 25 if not a 27 as your fallback in the back depending on what you have up front. You'll be fine if you are preparing for it now. Mandy, I'm in for Placid too. 8 people from my running group all got in. Going to be an interesting spring training next year! COOL on IMLP - see you there! It is crazy, there are a lot of people that I have talked to that are doing it, so it is going to be a blast! That gearing stuff has me all confused, although I know that it makes a difference. I have no idea what I have. See, my registration for IMLP cost more than my bike, but I am working the hell out of the motor. |
| 2010-07-29 1:09 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread acumenjay- Thanks for the bike profile. It's always interesting for me to see these, but they often look scarier than the actual course. |
| 2010-07-29 2:35 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Extreme Veteran 688 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I'm planning on doing the Timberman next year. Do you know if it sells out fast? I don't want to miss the registration. |
| 2010-07-29 3:07 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread David- It does not fill up as fast as the full Ironman events do, but if you committed to doing it, register early anyway. This way you'll be more committed to it and you'll get a less expensive rate. Good luck. |
| 2010-07-29 4:14 PM in reply to: #3012789 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I believe it's right around early January that it's closed the past few years--though someone might know better than me. Better safe than sorry, I'd get registered in the fall if I knew I was going to do it because it does close out relatively fast. |
| 2010-07-30 8:03 AM in reply to: #2463034 |
Master 1989 New Jersey | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread I signed up late December, so it was still open then, and yeah, somewhere Januaryish it sold out. I believe the year before it was a pretty quick sellout - like a week or two. Might be wrong, but it certainly wasn't an immediate sellout. |
| 2010-07-30 8:07 AM in reply to: #2463034 |
| Veteran 229 New York | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Thanks for the posting of the Timberman bike elevation. I've taken a look at it a couple times, and it's pretty clear where the hard parts are. I think my plan is like Mandy's: I need/want to be at the top of the big hill on the way out in an hour (so avg 10-11 MPH on the climb). From there, merely averaging 17 MPH over the next 34 miles shouldnt be a problem. The downhill I ought to get plenty of speed across, and the slight climb/false flat again shouldnt be too much of an issue. Then its back to the hour of climbing coming home. If i get off the bike course in 4 hours or less, I ought to be fine. |
| 2010-07-30 8:21 AM in reply to: #2463034 |
Master 1989 New Jersey | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread And thanks from me too for the bike profile. Even that toughest section, it averages only 5% over about a kilometer. So probably within it, there is a spot or two where it's an 8-9% grade, but cant be more than a quick thing. Which means it's less of an ability thing, but more of a confidence thing. Just ride your normal hills. The best part of that profile....after the steep section, you get 20 miles where you fly!!! |
| 2010-07-30 8:25 AM in reply to: #3013855 |
| Veteran 229 New York | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread runnerx - 2010-07-30 9:21 AM And thanks from me too for the bike profile. Even that toughest section, it averages only 5% over about a kilometer. So probably within it, there is a spot or two where it's an 8-9% grade, but cant be more than a quick thing. Which means it's less of an ability thing, but more of a confidence thing. Just ride your normal hills. The best part of that profile....after the steep section, you get 20 miles where you fly!!! Im excited by that thought, especially being a big dude, and a pretty decent descender. Im guessing I'll be able to match or exceed most peoples speeds on that downhill.  I read a call out that the blue hills area is a good place for training. I live in Boston and we have a car to put the bikes on. Are there specific areas/roads that are good riding for this? |
| 2010-07-30 1:55 PM in reply to: #3013872 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread techknowgn - 2010-07-30 8:25 AM I read a call out that the blue hills area is a good place for training. I live in Boston and we have a car to put the bikes on. Are there specific areas/roads that are good riding for this? Do 2-3 loops of this, that'll get the heart pumping! http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/milton/409595769 Check out the elevation profile; the first climb is a gradual 200 footer, nothing bad; the second one is a steady 6%, 400' climb that's probably just as difficult, probably a bit more so, than the Timberman climb. Hope this helps! |
| 2010-07-30 8:03 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
| Extreme Veteran 494 Morris County, NJ | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Soooooo... I overdid it a bit at the NJ Sate Tri last Saturday and ended up with a very sore knee. Dr's opinion is that I shouldn't run on the leg until it feels 100%, but the good news is that there is no serious injury. I have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING for a full week, and I am more worried than ever that my low training volume is going to add up to one seriously unpleasant race experience. This afternoon, I was cleared for swimming and a test ride on the bike. I have a sprint tri tomorrow morning, but I'll probably walk the 5K. This is not where I wanted to be in this crucial training point, but I keep trying to remind myself that my goal is simply to finish my first HIM. I hope you are all training strong. |
| 2010-07-30 8:32 PM in reply to: #3012992 |
| New user 74 | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread For anyone who's done the course, does it have the little cut back that's listed on the directions found here on the loop back? The mapmyride course doesn't have it. |
| 2010-07-30 8:42 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Ms. Trezza- Don't do it! Sit the sprint out and live to tri another day. Ease back into light training. The hay is basically in the barn for Timberman anyway. Less is certainly more at this point. Don't try to play catch-up, just see gently and gradually what you can do. Consider a walk/jog framework when you get the ok to start the "running" process. Good luck. Peace, ~Sam |
| 2010-07-31 9:05 AM in reply to: #3015149 |
Expert 657 Portland | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread stratman05 - 2010-07-30 9:32 PM For anyone who's done the course, does it have the little cut back that's listed on the directions found here on the loop back? The mapmyride course doesn't have it. If you are referring to the Right on Brown Hill Rd, Left on Farraville, then yes that piece was new last year and includes a nice little hill as soon as you turn onto Farraville. If you want to check it out on a google map, check out my route manager: http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/training/map.asp?routeid=137645 |
| 2010-07-31 10:20 AM in reply to: #3015161 |
Master 1927 Guilford, CT | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Tri Sam - 2010-07-30 8:42 PM Ms. Trezza- Don't do it! Sit the sprint out and live to tri another day. Ease back into light training. The hay is basically in the barn for Timberman anyway. Less is certainly more at this point. Don't try to play catch-up, just see gently and gradually what you can do. Consider a walk/jog framework when you get the ok to start the "running" process. Good luck. Peace, ~Sam Agree. A sprint for you at this point and could do more harm than good. Your better off with a longer aerobic ride if your knee can handle it more than going out and hammering a sprint. |
| 2010-07-31 2:07 PM in reply to: #3015543 |
Master 1989 New Jersey | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread acumenjay - 2010-07-31 11:20 AM Tri Sam - 2010-07-30 8:42 PM Ms. Trezza- Don't do it! Sit the sprint out and live to tri another day. Ease back into light training. The hay is basically in the barn for Timberman anyway. Less is certainly more at this point. Don't try to play catch-up, just see gently and gradually what you can do. Consider a walk/jog framework when you get the ok to start the "running" process. Good luck. Peace, ~Sam Agree. A sprint for you at this point and could do more harm than good. Your better off with a longer aerobic ride if your knee can handle it more than going out and hammering a sprint. X3!! Aside from the points already raised, oddly enough, a week off actually sometimes is best thing for you, regardless of injury. I doubt any of us take as enough rest that we should, but rest gives the body a chance to heal from all the training you've done so far, and then you end up feeling better for the race. I've seen it happen before...to others and to myself. Sorry to hear about it, but consider which is more important...The sprint or the Half? |
| 2010-07-31 10:32 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Master 1410 White Plains NY | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread The race should have been held today! Dangit! The conditions were epic: 75 degrees, sunny, little wind, and ZERO % humidity. I had the bike and run of my life. I did the bike course in 2:43:00 and then ran 10K of the course in 48:15. So not only should the race been held today, but my legs were ready to drop a HUGE PR today! I jumped into the lake to cool off after the run. The water is WARM. Unless the region gets a lot of rain over the next 3 weeks, I can't see the water temp cooling off. I have NO idea what the water temp is currently, but I would imagine is getting close to the wet-suit illegal area. Not to scare anyone. Just be prepared for no wetsuit just in case. 3 weeks everyone! Hang in there! |
| 2010-07-31 10:47 PM in reply to: #3014659 |
| Veteran 229 New York | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Brownie28 - 2010-07-30 2:55 PM techknowgn - 2010-07-30 8:25 AM I read a call out that the blue hills area is a good place for training. I live in Boston and we have a car to put the bikes on. Are there specific areas/roads that are good riding for this? Do 2-3 loops of this, that'll get the heart pumping! http://www.mapmyride.com/ride/united-states/ma/milton/409595769 We went down there today, and got in several laps around the mountain but somehow we completely missed the road that leads up the big hill. I just literally didn't see it. We thought maybe the map included the road up the mountain at the ski hill, but that was blocked off. We had no problem finding the rest of it, but clearly we flat out missed it. As I look at the map now, I see it was right by where the slant onto Canton is, but we didnt even see a road there. |
| 2010-08-01 6:42 AM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Just be honest. You went, you saw the course, you even saw "the hill." You then looked again, but this time a little confused and said, "Dude...what hill?" That's the attitude baby! That's what I'm talkin' about! Peace! |
| 2010-08-01 1:45 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread OLY in Greenfield, MA today (where my parents currently live--it was FANTASTIC rolling out of bed at 6am in absolutely no rush for the 8am start). I think the extra sleep was the only thing that went right today. Broken sunglasses, flat tire before the start, crashing on the bike, losing my nutrition in the process and doing the last 1:45 of the race on nothing but water, and a rock in a shoe that now has me with a huge blood blister. Results were actually alright--3rd in AG, 11th overall--but I could have been MUCH faster, and I now have a serious case of road rash and a pretty sore hip to contend with. Race report will be linked once results are posted...I'm ready for bed. Hope everyone's had a great weekend of training, the weather's been absolutely IDEAL the last few days. |
| 2010-08-01 2:11 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Brownie- Daaang! That sounds like the race from hell AND you scored well. Good work. I'm glad you got that out of the way. I'm still shaking my head about it. Heal well. Peace, ~Sam |
| 2010-08-01 5:01 PM in reply to: #3016361 |
| Veteran 229 New York | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Tri Sam - 2010-08-01 7:42 AM Just be honest. You went, you saw the course, you even saw "the hill." You then looked again, but this time a little confused and said, "Dude...what hill?" That's the attitude baby! That's what I'm talkin' about! Peace! LOL. I wish. We literally went aroundthe loop a few times,and didnt find the right road for the hill. |
| 2010-08-01 6:34 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread A glimpse into the hell that was my race today...hopefully others can enjoy reading about what was a day full of pain, frustation and a few skipped heart beats  http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=220261 |
| 2010-08-01 8:43 PM in reply to: #2463034 |
Expert 868 CALEDONIA/MIDDLEVILLE, MICHIGAN | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Brownie- You've got my head shakin' again. You gotta' be kiddin' me! This would be a great article for Triathlete Magazine. I'm learning more and more that you are a bad a##. Having said that, I might have to blow the whistle, and contact the "Posting Police". I'm not sure it's acceptable to have such an extreme adventure with thievery, high speed crashes, bloodied body parts, and then say... "...which had a cute small-town feel to it." I'm pretty sure after all of your unfortunate events you can't use the word "cute". I might be wrong, but I'm just sayin'. I mean, under normal circumstances, sure, no problem. But dude, the only thing you missed was taking a foot to the face on the swim...and just maybe you just forgot to tell us that part. OH!!! And aren't you the one who just got a sweet as heck, brand new bike? I'd be pissed! At any rate, great report and amazing race. I think if I work hard enough, I might be worthy enough to carry your bag into transition for you. However, I'm not going to crash at speeds exceeding...well...anything to promote my status. Thanks for sharing. Peace, ~Sam |
| 2010-08-01 9:11 PM in reply to: #3017318 |
Extreme Veteran 475 Watertown, MA | Subject: RE: Timberman - Half Iron : Official Thread Hilarious, Sam! When I wrote that 'cute' sentence I actually reread it and said 'well that just doesn't sound right'. (One note on the awards, and the reason I added that small town comment: the woman doing the awards did a song she wrote to the tune of Chariots of Fire about the race, the racers, the volunteers, etc...you don't get stuff like that at most races!) Anyway, glad you enjoyed the report...oh, and don't give me that stuff about carrying my bags to transition. Hell, I'd offer to carry your bags at the end of the race but going by your race reports you'll probably have already eaten, showered, and left by the time I cross the line! Off day tomorrow--my first one in about six weeks...is it wrong to be excited about sitting on my a$$ all day? Well I am! |
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