Is that what happens when you cross a bug and a Porsche? (Page 3)

1) Blue is the new green?  Ugh, I'm so over the one upmanship color thing already.

2)  If they make a diesel hybrid they have to put it in their wagon.  It looks like they are designing this technology so it would work on lots of the platforms,  but the current main market for a diesel hybrid drives wagons.

3) Touareg has always seemed like an odd choice for an SUV name. 

ginally posted by moondawg14

You'll notice that they say the diesel hybrid gets about 35mpg in normal driving, but it DOES have a plug-in feature, so you can drive 14 miles on electric alone.  Now, THAT is actually good tech, as it really does provide good savings in both fuel and dollars. (previous hybrids haven't really had the battery size to accomplish this, although it's getting more common.)

1. "Blue" is the marketing name for Diesels that have some sort of NOx aftertreatment on the diesel, in addition to the particulate filter.   "Ad Blue" and "Bluetec" are currently in use, there might be others by other companies.  It's a German thing.

2. They indicated that the diesel hybrid would fit all of their existing vehicles that use the "common" platform... everything except the Touareg.  NOW, it's not just "that simple" as cars in the US are emissions certified on a Chassis basis, not an engine basis... and getting a car through cert is EXPENSIVE. (over $1M per chassis)   What that means is:  If VW wants to introduce a diesel hybrid into an existing chassis, it's going to have to go through cert.  SO, in order to get a diesel-hybrid into the Passat wagon, the marketing data is going to have to compelling.   My gut feeling is:  Don't hold your breath.   This system would very likely go into the Jetta and Jetta Sportwagen first, and would likely not hit the Passat wagon.   (aside:  vehicles larger than 7500 lbs GCVW are NOT chassis certified, the engines are certified separately.  So, we get the engine EPA certified and then anyone can put it in any vehicle they want.)

3. VW has always had weird names.   Jetta and Passat are weird too, we've just been hearing them for 30 years and we're used to them.   Here there's a VW which is essentially the 90's Passat, renamed the Santana.   Every time I see one I hear Peanut the Woozle saying "San-tah-nah .. ah-nah."

You'll notice that they say the diesel hybrid gets about 35mpg in normal driving, but it DOES have a plug-in feature, so you can drive 14 miles on electric alone.  Now, THAT is actually good tech, as it really does provide good savings in both fuel and dollars. (previous hybrids haven't really had the battery size to accomplish this, although it's getting more common.)

1. "Blue" is the marketing name for Diesels that have some sort of NOx aftertreatment on the diesel, in addition to the particulate filter.   "Ad Blue" and "Bluetec" are currently in use, there might be others by other companies.  It's a German thing.

2. They indicated that the diesel hybrid would fit all of their existing vehicles that use the "common" platform... everything except the Touareg.  NOW, it's not just "that simple" as cars in the US are emissions certified on a Chassis basis, not an engine basis... and getting a car through cert is EXPENSIVE. (over $1M per chassis)   What that means is:  If VW wants to introduce a diesel hybrid into an existing chassis, it's going to have to go through cert.  SO, in order to get a diesel-hybrid into the Passat wagon, the marketing data is going to have to compelling.   My gut feeling is:  Don't hold your breath.   This system would very likely go into the Jetta and Jetta Sportwagen first, and would likely not hit the Passat wagon.   (aside:  vehicles larger than 7500 lbs GCVW are NOT chassis certified, the engines are certified separately.  So, we get the engine EPA certified and then anyone can put it in any vehicle they want.)

3. VW has always had weird names.   Jetta and Passat are weird too, we've just been hearing them for 30 years and we're used to them.   Here there's a VW which is essentially the 90's Passat, renamed the Santana.   Every time I see one I hear Peanut the Woozle saying "San-tah-nah .. ah-nah."

1M per chassis is nothing.  their goal is 20% market share in the US by 2020. they are on track for it last i checked....  

is the passat wagon available in the US???? every time i take my GTI in for service or something they beg me to trade it in for another car, i've gotten 4 emails this week asking me to come in and look at various A3/4's and any VW i want.  the wagon would be the only VW that would interest me since i could really haul some SBR stuff with it.

1) The blue thing may be a diesel engine thing, but it's also blue washing things previously green washed. What's better than green?  Blue.  I can't think of a specific example of it, but I've seen it, and it makes me cringe.

2) Is 1M a lot for these companies trying to get a car to market?  It seems like it would be peanuts.  I'm cool with a Jetta Wagon.  I like the Jettas more than the Passats anyway, though I can't really say why--college holdover probably.

3) This made me snort my beer very uncomfortably up into my sinuses, so thanks for that