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2007-03-21 1:33 PM
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HankJKy - 2007-03-21 2:22 PM

General answer: I live halfway up a mountain, so I won't actually flood. I'm also well inland. The county I live in is about 90 % forest. I'm already armed. And in 50 years I'll be 105 years old. Ok, I get that the oceans backing up into the rivers may also contaminate lakes,(although I would think there would be more than two feet of drop between most lakes and the ocean and between the headwaters of almost any river and the ocean) but rain will still fall, right? Just as much rain as ever, maybe more, right? So why will there be a fresh water shortage? Don't you think that some lakes will not be contaminated, and that we can build barriers to prevent the contamination, allowing one-way flow, and also find ways to trap and contain rainwater? I think this would probably be more cost-effective than massive desalinization. I have seen several houses with their raingutters piped into a cistern for fresh water. It works in an area with rain. I like Spokes' ideas on space exploration, unrelated to this scenario. Whey I was but a lad, I thought by now we would be WAY further along on this. We skidded to a halt after reaching the moon. What a shame. By now, we were supposed to have undersea colonies, too. Which may be a good idea given Renee's scenario. I like to train a few dolphins and become a fish-rancher. Get along, little tuna! yeeha!

Coastal US is the mostly heavily populated geographic area - those are the areas that would experience water issues, methinks. Non-coastal areas would not suffer so much, I agree. As for a barrier method, how would you stop the salt water from entering the aquifier? Good thoughts/questions, by the way! Clever underwater dwelling idea, too!

I'm thinking my destination would be where I plan to be anyway - inland North Carolina. On 5-10 acres with a cistern and deep-water well. Solar-panelling for my energy needs, sustainable housing structure. Robust vegetable garden and maybe some chickens.

Still tossing around what depression-proof occupation I would pursue.

 



2007-03-21 1:57 PM
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2007-03-21 2:03 PM
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SweetK - 2007-03-21 2:57 PM 

This sounds like something out of Jeremy Rifkin's entropy and other such modern day philosophy. Reminds me of a paper I had to write and defend back in the day. The fact is that our planet is dynamic and ever changing, we are just speeding the process along in some respects. What real benefit is there to the planet if we save ourselves 1000 years from what is inevitable anyway. There is still the possibility that the Yellow Stone could possibly erupt, a big asteroid could hit us, Nuclear War...and the list goes on. That fact is that if you survive you learn to adapt or die, and I cannot predict who that person is inside of me.

Is this your way of saying "No thanks, don't want to play?"

2007-03-21 2:56 PM
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2007-03-21 3:26 PM
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spokes - 2007-03-21 1:28 PM

HankJKy - 2007-03-21 1:22 PM "But hey, cockroaches would be able to get intelligent then. " Nah. cockroaches don't need to be intelligent. They are already highly evolved for survival, and have been for a long long time. Intelligence is just a recent evolutionary experiment, and it still remains to be seen if it is as successful as the cockroaches' adaption. Spokes, you fell into the trap of thinking that intelligence is a "higher"form of evolutionary development, and that humans are the apex of evolution. Evolution values only survival, it is not goal-oriented to produce intelligence or spirituality or any of that. General answer: I live halfway up a mountain, so I won't actually flood. I'm also well inland. The county I live in is about 90 % forest. I'm already armed. And in 50 years I'll be 105 years old. Ok, I get that the oceans backing up into the rivers may also contaminate lakes,(although I would think there would be more than two feet of drop between most lakes and the ocean and between the headwaters of almost any river and the ocean) but rain will still fall, right? Just as much rain as ever, maybe more, right? So why will there be a fresh water shortage? Don't you think that some lakes will not be contaminated, and that we can build barriers to prevent the contamination, allowing one-way flow, and also find ways to trap and contain rainwater? I think this would probably be more cost-effective than massive desalinization. I have seen several houses with their raingutters piped into a cistern for fresh water. It works in an area with rain. I like Spokes' ideas on space exploration, unrelated to this scenario. Whey I was but a lad, I thought by now we would be WAY further along on this. We skidded to a halt after reaching the moon. What a shame. By now, we were supposed to have undersea colonies, too. Which may be a good idea given Renee's scenario. I like to train a few dolphins and become a fish-rancher. Get along, little tuna! yeeha!

Hank: really good points in your first paragraph. You didn't write the script for the Starship Troopers movie, did you? Because one character said that about The Bugs.  

Everybody who want to understand evolution better should read this book.  It rocks!:

http://www.amazon.com/Wonderful-Life-Burgess-Nature-History/dp/039330700X/ref=pd_bbs_2/103-3826777-9785413?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1174508668&sr=8-2

There is a lot of insight into more developed theories of evolution after Darwin. It's not light, but OK for the lay person.

2007-03-21 3:42 PM
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My grand parents were young adults during the '30's. My grandfather was a truck farmer, my grand mother a schoolteacher. Not only were they able to make it through the depression relatively OK, they were often able to actually hire help for the farm.

That said, they always lived more modestly than just about anyone I know (or have ever known)

 



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2007-03-21 9:29 PM
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I live at 1100 feet.  I'd break out the jelly beans and sit back and laugh at everyone who was more misfortunate than me.  I'm a misanthrope.

So long suckers!

 



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2007-03-22 12:32 AM
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While we allow the economists of this world continue to place zero value on the environment and the effects of industry on it, we will always have an attitude that funding for the preservation and positive development of it will be limited.

When we force the economists to place a real value on the environment projects that directly effect the environment will come under closer scrutiny.

2007-03-22 5:31 PM
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max - 2007-03-21 10:29 PM

I live at 1100 feet. I'd break out the jelly beans and sit back and laugh at everyone who was more misfortunate than me. I'm a misanthrope.

So long suckers!

 

Bahahahahahahaha!!!!

You were channeling ChuckyFinster, weren't you?

And you are not a misanthrope! I know better. 



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