GordoByrn's Group Full for the Spring (Page 3)

Boom808 - 2009-04-13 8:27 AM

Not relaxed at all....  I mean it has nothing with the water it's my breathing...  i feel like i struggle with breathing.  I try to bilateral breath all the time but i can only do it for maybe 75 meters...  once the bilateral breathing stops... i'm usually tired?  So inturn, i then feel uncomfortable because my breathing is labored.  Breathing sucks so then i get tired and then i get uncomfortable then i'm not relaxed any more. 

Thanks in advance for the help.

Boom

SSMinnow - 2009-04-13 9:57 AM

Heck yeah that can happen!  I didn't start running seriously until I was 39 years old.  Flash forward nearly seven years  and I PR'ed in every distance since that time.  Now I just need to translate that into triathlon, especially swimming and transitions! Welcome aboard.

twohearted - 2009-04-13 5:32 PM

You mean there is hope for me, I am 48 and am very slow in the water, on my feet and on the bike.

Ken in AZ - 2009-04-13 8:25 PM

Hey all

Question -- will we be (or should we be) following a specific program for this mentor program?  Just curious, as my training is kind of just what I can do when I can do it right now.... 

I do have a goal race in mind -- 17 weeks from this weekend... Tri in the Pines in Show Low AZ.  I did the race 3 years ago, that was the last time I raced.

I would love to put some structure to my training, but am also happy just to train.

Off to the YMCA, will run and do weights during my daughter's volleyball practice.  Then off to San Fran tomorrow for 2 days.  Will also probably do the same workout there Wed morning.  Tomorrow is travel, and rest day from training.

ken

 

cjhild - 2009-04-13 11:48 AM Also, started the b/l breathing today and that was tough for me.  I did not seem to be getting my head up enough on my off side, kept getting water in my nose and mouth.  Only my first day so I will attempt to not get discouraged.

SSMinnow - 2009-04-13 11:49 AM

G

Did the Endurance Builder 1,400 today and had a question.  Is there rest after the 4x25s or only after 4x25, 2x125s?

It seems the longer distances I start to swim the more likely I leave the pool feeling like I swallowed a beach ball.  Is that due to taking in too much air? not getting rid of enough carbon dioxide?  I can see where this would be a bigger problem if I had to immediately get on the bike or god forbid run!

Thanks.
Suzy

twohearted - 2009-04-13 4:44 PM

Hi Gordo,

 

Any good advice on shin splints? I stretch, roll and ice. I take a few days off and things feel good again. I start out slow and easy and build back up a bit before I get back to it. They always come back. I just tried a new pair of shoes for two weeks and am returning them tomorrow for another pair, they didn't work.

 

Karen

 

BabsVa - 2009-04-13 6:57 PM

And here's another thing I wonder about. Why does swimming seem so much harder than say running? Like swimming a 100, HR is 135 but I feel much more spent than if I were running, maintaining a HR of 135, I'd be chatting away, and going forever.

Babs

Ken in AZ - 2009-04-13 7:25 PM

Hey all

Question -- will we be (or should we be) following a specific program for this mentor program?  Just curious, as my training is kind of just what I can do when I can do it right now.... 

I do have a goal race in mind -- 17 weeks from this weekend... Tri in the Pines in Show Low AZ.  I did the race 3 years ago, that was the last time I raced.

I would love to put some structure to my training, but am also happy just to train.

Off to the YMCA, will run and do weights during my daughter's volleyball practice.  Then off to San Fran tomorrow for 2 days.  Will also probably do the same workout there Wed morning.  Tomorrow is travel, and rest day from training.

ken

twohearted - 2009-04-13 7:26 PM

Suzy, yes I think at times I do over stride. I have been working on leaning slightly forward with shorter quicker cadence. I relly have to pay attention to that.

 

Babs, I do notice a difference when I run on a Rail Trail or dirt road, if feels way better.

Thanks, Karen

GordoByrn - 2009-04-14 3:01 PM

Suzy,

4x25 has rest -- yes.  If I write 100, or note 'continuous', then you'd keep it rolling without stopping.

You may be swallowing air -- do you think that is the case?

g 

GordoByrn - 2009-04-14 4:04 PM

Karen,

Few qs...

How many times per week do you run?  For how long?  How fast are you running?

If you are standing relaxed then where are your feet pointing?  Toes out?  Toes in?  Straight ahead?

Ask the run store if they think you might benefit from additional medial posting.

 g

cjhild - 2009-04-13 10:59 AM G- the way my schedule works out it is optimal for me to swim/run Mon-Thurs.  This only leaves Fri-Sat for bike or run.  The bike is my favorite of the three disciplines and schedule permitting I would like to ride those weekend days.  I would even rather ride some during Mon-Thurs but it is less convenient because it now gets light later in the morning.  I start work at 7:00 am, giving me less than an hour of what I find to be an acceptable amount of light to ride and feel safe.

My question is, is it a detriment to have my 2-3 bikes on the weekend as opposed to spread out more during the week?

I could fit in more bike in the week, but it would be right at sunrise and I would prefer to not ride when car's visibility of me is low.

BabsVa - 2009-04-14 6:24 PM

Hey I did Coach G swim workout #2 - purpose is to develop different gears. This is something I needed to work on big time as pacing was something I haven't a clue about - it seemed my swim was either slow or all out. So, I did neg split the three 250's. Yay! Results: Sure, my speeds are slow, slower and slowest but at least now I am feeling a little more in control. The fastest 250 came in faster than my T-pace. And about the T-pace: I feel I can do a little better and plan to redo that TT maybe this weekend.

That is if I don't race.

Yes there is a sprint nearby and the course is great, it would be so much fun, the water is really cold, I really shouldn't run, haven't done a brick in weeks and weeks ... but it would be so fun ...

Hey Gordo, what do you think on this one?

SSMinnow - 2009-04-14 2:31 PM

Probably.  How do I get over that? inhale less? exhale more?

twohearted - 2009-04-14 3:40 PM

Gordo, I run 3 times per week, 2 times being 30-40 min. and 1 longer run usually 60-70 min. I run between 10.5-11 min/mi. Toes are pointed straight ahead. I am going to the running store on Thur. to exchange some shoes. Will ask about medial posting.