FDA Lowers Age for Next-Day Birth Control (Page 3)

Plan B does NOT terminate a pregnancy.  If you are already pregnant (fertilized egg implanted in uterine lining) Plan B DOES NOTHING.

If you missed a BC pill (which for some pills can mean as much as taking it an hour later than you usually take it) or a condom broke, this is an effective and safe backup plan.

Not everyone's parents are as cool as you all think you are, and most of you were NEVER teenage girls, so I guess I don't expect you to understand.

No, she didn't. But here's the point again.

Fornication is a really bad idea. 

The pill, more than any single thing, has contributed to the increase in fornication in our culture.  

Since the pill, we've had a majorly significant increase in:

• Divorce
• STDs
• Abortion
• Single parent families

I'll leave aside what seems to be major increases in mental health issues among teens and young people.

And the solution for all of these problems? More contraception.

Really, it seems like a type of insanity.

Also if god made us he also made sex enjoyable so I think that is all a part of his plan and I am not one to go against his plan.

she may have.  after they were married.

Differing opinions are great, that was more a statement about me preparing myself for a heated discussion about a very difficult subject.  And I was specifically making a (facetious) joke about us butting heads (again).  

The morning after pill is not protected sex in any way.  My point with that part of the statement is that I often bristle when men criticize women, or in this case girls, about their reproductive health choices.  I think there are very few men who have made the "right" choice with birth control EVERY SINGLE TIME they've had sex in their entire lives.  Unfortunately, it only takes one instance of this for a woman to become pregnant and it then is HER responsibility to deal with that.  I am often arguing this point with conservative Christians and I like to remind them: "Let he who is without sin among you, cast the first stone at her."  I'm not religious at all (though I was raised that way), but I have spent a lot of time with the Bible, and that is always the one that comes to mind when a man is judging a woman on her reproductive health choices.

I really wish 15 year olds weren't having sex.  I work with kids a lot, and 15 year olds are just not ready for that.  Of course, that doesn't mean that it isn't happening.  Sometimes that sex is consensual sex (fornication) between two young people.  I think that's what most people imagine when they think about young girls having sex, but it's just that it's not always like that.  I can go through and describe the other various scenarios if you really can't think of them; they're grim, but they happen.  Of course, the best way to handle those situations is for the girl to be able to go see a doctor, talk to her parents, and go to the police, but again, that is not always possible, and more importantly--the victim does not always feel it is possible.  

I have volunteered for Planned Parenthood and worked with rape victims.  You do not want to spend a lot of time thinking about all the different ways a 15 year old can be forced to have sex, and you definitely don't want to spend a lot of time thinking about who can be doing that forcing, but it is often people who are closest to her and who should be in the role of protecting her.  Often this is accompanied by YEARS of emotional and, sometimes physical, abuse.  Of course we want these victims to get proper healthcare (see a doctor) and get help from law enforcement, but the reality is that these victims do not always feel like either of those things are real options, especially in smaller communities.

Here's their conclusion (my bold):

CONCLUSIONS The two regimens of levonorgestrel caused either only minor or no alterations in markers of endometrial receptivity. New agents targeting the endometrial development should be explored in order to increase EC efficacy.

So the manufacturer of Plan B is in fact correct in saying that it may prevent implatation.

I mean gosh, you're arguing with the manufacturer's own claims. I didn't make that up.

Perhaps you should save your religious arguments for those that are religious, and actually respond to a comment made by me. I do not have a problem with kids having BC. I do not have a problem with abortion. I do not have a problem with abortion by a pill. I made a comment that in my opinion lowering the age to 15 for OTC morning after pill is sad on many levels... I still maintain that. Feel free to form your own opinions.

There are two issues IMO.

1. The age old question of when does life begin which is the central tenant in the abortion argument. If you don't believe a fertilized egg is a person then there is no problem here. 

2. The main issue for me is making this so readily available for kids under 18. So they can't smoke, can't drink, can't vote, in most states can't drive, but they don't need to consult with anyone before taking this drug. I can't by cold medicine off the shelf but a 15 year old can buy this. Seems off to me that people under 18 or 21 can't be trusted with anything else but they are definitely mature enough for this.

For me, I don't like the government taking the place of a parent for a 15 year old. I agree with Powerman it is sad that we have gotten to the point where the parenting is so bad that the government steps in like this. My wife and I don't have kids yet but one of the things we talk about the most is how we are going to discipline in a fair manner that gets the point across but also builds trust between us and our kids so they will come to us first when they mess up. 

Solution... male birth control. I swear if there was a pill guys could take to make the fishies not swim there wouldn't be an issue. Every guy would carry a container of them and eat them like tic tacs. 

That's an important central question here about this particular issue.

It is the encroachment of statism into the natural rights of parents.

Many will argue though that they're really not your children.

Yes, Mary and Joseph were married according to Jewish law, and they never had sexual intercourse.

I think they took in dinner and a movie once in a while.

Yes, Mary and Joseph were married according to Jewish law, and they never had sexual intercourse.

I think they took in dinner and a movie once in a while.

Yes she did people just don't want to believe it so they don't.

Also if god made us he also made sex enjoyable so I think that is all a part of his plan and I am not one to go against his plan.

That's an important central question here about this particular issue.

It is the encroachment of statism into the natural rights of parents.

Many will argue though that they're really not your children.

You get a gold star.

  Man, I sound like such a square.  :)

You do make a lot of great points and it may shock you, but I agree with you.  I'm every bit as passionate about protecting life as Don is, and I do everything I can to teach kids abstinence and so they are never put in this situation.  However, I'm not so naive to think that kids aren't going to have sex and banning teen sex would ever do anything so I am not opposed to teens having access to birth control.  I don't like it, I don't want them to do it, but if they're going to then I want them to be safe about it.

As I mentioned with Plan B, I'm conflicted, because I'm against all forms of abortion but as is being discussed this one is in that gray area for me.  I believe the same hormone used in Plan B is used in regular birth control pills and does the same thing to the uterine walls.  So, technically standard birth control could be described as an abortifacient.

Even to throw in a personal story.  My wife always took the pill for birth control and when we were 20 she became pregnant while still on the pill.  She was sick after a few weeks and went to the doctor and discovered she had miscarried.  Could the pill have caused the miscarriage?  possibly.  Do either of us think she had an abortion?  Absolutely not.

You're also correct about sexual assaults, in that most are perpetrated by somebody close which really sucks.  I commend you for helping kids in this area.  I do a lot of work trying to prevent these things on the other end of the spectrum.  I run a group that help's men who suffer from sexual addictions.

but - according to jewish law your marriage is not official until you hit it under the chuppah...and mary likely wouldn't have been old enough to get plan b

God also made fire, and it is enjoyable.  When that fire is kept in the confines of a fire ring it's great, it can be used for cooking, staying warm, etc... However, when that fire gets out of the fire ring it's one of the most destructive forces on earth.  It will level an entire town killing everything in its path.

Same thing with sex.  It was designed to be enjoyable in the confines of a marriage, but when you get it outside of the ring of marriage it's one of the most destructive things our society faces.

Same thing with sex.  It was designed to be enjoyable in the confines of a marriage, but when you get it outside of the ring of marriage it's one of the most destructive things our society faces.

God also made fire, and it is enjoyable.  When that fire is kept in the confines of a fire ring it's great, it can be used for cooking, staying warm, etc... However, when that fire gets out of the fire ring it's one of the most destructive forces on earth.  It will level an entire town killing everything in its path.

Same thing with sex.  It was designed to be enjoyable in the confines of a marriage, but when you get it outside of the ring of marriage it's one of the most destructive things our society faces.