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2013-07-01 9:32 AM in reply to: DirkP |
NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Dina, Dirk has great advice if you're still interested in staying in touch with the sport. Volunteering is always a great way to get motivated, not just in triathlon but in life. Not to be too philosophical, but I had a mentor who would always ask me the same question whenever I was down or unmotivated. What have you done for someone else today? It somehow always seems to pick me up to help out someone else. And two other things: 1. Triathlon can become overwhelming and can become unbalanced with out "real" lives. If that's what was happening, it's best to back off and see if the passion or desire comes back. 2. No, you can't be kicked out of the junkies. You're stuck with is forever. There's only one way out of the family... |
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2013-07-01 10:36 AM in reply to: wbayek |
NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Here's my June. I lost a little running mojo for sure, but I swam! swim: 1h 07m 20s - 3520.00 Yd bike: 27h 55m 38s - 510.70 Mi run: 9h 40m 25s - 64.57 Mi |
2013-07-01 10:42 AM in reply to: 0 |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED June totals. Not too shabby! I was over my goal in swimming, short by 15 miles on the bike, and short by 5 miles in running. (I set goals for each month depending on my plan.) I'm pleased with the month even though I felt like I slacked off a lot. Swim: 3h 28m 33s - 10800 Bike: 9h 57m 42 se - 160.56 Run: 9h 44 m 52s - 62.3 Edited by RunningYogini 2013-07-01 10:44 AM |
2013-07-01 11:03 AM in reply to: RunningYogini |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Blessings to the families of the firefighters in Arizona. Such a terrible tragedy. |
2013-07-01 2:28 PM in reply to: RunningYogini |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED I've posted my race report for Riverhead Rocks. |
2013-07-01 3:12 PM in reply to: strikyr |
NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Math report for triathletes. I was doing some triangle stuff with one of my kids, and realized the right triangle math applies to the triathlon swim. Long story short - here's my takeaway. We always hear "I didn't want to line up too far outside the shortest path because I'd have to swim more to the first buoy", but trig can tell us exactly how much more we'd have to swim, and it's WAY less than you think I bet. For instance, if you are at a race where it's 250 yards to the first buoy, and you line up 22 yards to the outside, how much further do you think you have to swim to first buoy than the people who sit on the exact line and battle it out? Wait for it, wait for it.... 1 YARD! A whole 36 inches more. And that's if you line up 66 feet outside! Go to a crazy amount - say 40 yards outside. You'd have to swim 3.2 yards more. 3.2 yards! Is that worth it to you to miss out on the battle? You decide. I understand you can't draft much out there either, but it's an option to consider if all that contact is freaking you out, and the extra yards argument is really an urban legend. |
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2013-07-01 5:57 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Extreme Veteran 868 Racine, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Math report for triathletes. I was doing some triangle stuff with one of my kids, and realized the right triangle math applies to the triathlon swim. Long story short - here's my takeaway. We always hear "I didn't want to line up too far outside the shortest path because I'd have to swim more to the first buoy", but trig can tell us exactly how much more we'd have to swim, and it's WAY less than you think I bet. For instance, if you are at a race where it's 250 yards to the first buoy, and you line up 22 yards to the outside, how much further do you think you have to swim to first buoy than the people who sit on the exact line and battle it out? Wait for it, wait for it.... 1 YARD! A whole 36 inches more. And that's if you line up 66 feet outside! Go to a crazy amount - say 40 yards outside. You'd have to swim 3.2 yards more. 3.2 yards! Is that worth it to you to miss out on the battle? You decide. I understand you can't draft much out there either, but it's an option to consider if all that contact is freaking you out, and the extra yards argument is really an urban legend. Hahaha I am going to show this to my husband he is always telling me I should start more to the front with all the others..... |
2013-07-01 6:51 PM in reply to: strikyr |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by strikyr I've posted my race report for Riverhead Rocks. I finally got to reading and posting for both of your recent race reports. |
2013-07-01 6:53 PM in reply to: Jo63 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by Jo63 Here's Tony & I That's a great pic of you two! It's a great, great day when Junkies from across the nation can meet face to face! I can't tell you how great it was for me to meet Jonathan and Warren face to face. |
2013-07-01 6:57 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Math report for triathletes. I was doing some triangle stuff with one of my kids, and realized the right triangle math applies to the triathlon swim. Long story short - here's my takeaway. We always hear "I didn't want to line up too far outside the shortest path because I'd have to swim more to the first buoy", but trig can tell us exactly how much more we'd have to swim, and it's WAY less than you think I bet. For instance, if you are at a race where it's 250 yards to the first buoy, and you line up 22 yards to the outside, how much further do you think you have to swim to first buoy than the people who sit on the exact line and battle it out? Wait for it, wait for it.... 1 YARD! A whole 36 inches more. And that's if you line up 66 feet outside! Go to a crazy amount - say 40 yards outside. You'd have to swim 3.2 yards more. 3.2 yards! Is that worth it to you to miss out on the battle? You decide. I understand you can't draft much out there either, but it's an option to consider if all that contact is freaking you out, and the extra yards argument is really an urban legend. I love this post!! I am always caught in the "short course" thinking and I wonder if I can actually cut much time from the swim I do by getting on the outside. I am now in the habit of starting off the front of the group so it may not have a significant impact either way. I will take a look at this the for next large wave start I race and evaluate my options then. It will likely have something to do with how closely they start the waves together. If I feel the waves will be far enough apart to allow the previous waves to scatter I'll probably keep my current strategy. |
2013-07-01 7:07 PM in reply to: DirkP |
Extreme Veteran 868 Racine, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED My June totals June's totals Swim: 4h 41m 11s - 12712 yds Bike: 17h 10m 22s - 152.83 Run:: 15h 50m 34s - 49.84 Mi Strength: : 3h 55m As I don't have anyway to measure inside miles I am thinking a new bike trainer is my next big purchase. |
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2013-07-01 7:22 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Math report for triathletes. I was doing some triangle stuff with one of my kids, and realized the right triangle math applies to the triathlon swim. Long story short - here's my takeaway. We always hear "I didn't want to line up too far outside the shortest path because I'd have to swim more to the first buoy", but trig can tell us exactly how much more we'd have to swim, and it's WAY less than you think I bet. For instance, if you are at a race where it's 250 yards to the first buoy, and you line up 22 yards to the outside, how much further do you think you have to swim to first buoy than the people who sit on the exact line and battle it out? Wait for it, wait for it.... 1 YARD! A whole 36 inches more. And that's if you line up 66 feet outside! Go to a crazy amount - say 40 yards outside. You'd have to swim 3.2 yards more. 3.2 yards! Is that worth it to you to miss out on the battle? You decide. I understand you can't draft much out there either, but it's an option to consider if all that contact is freaking you out, and the extra yards argument is really an urban legend. Warren thanks for posting this and pointing this out. I'm guessing this still assumes that you can sight well so you are not zig zagging all over the swim course. That probably adds more distance then starting outside and being able to sight and swim straight. |
2013-07-01 7:24 PM in reply to: DirkP |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by strikyr I've posted my race report for Riverhead Rocks. I finally got to reading and posting for both of your recent race reports. Dirk thanks and I appreciate you taking the time out to read them and to provide comments and feedback. |
2013-07-01 7:25 PM in reply to: 0 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by DirkP Here are my June numbers: Swim: 9623.08 Yd Bike: 479.18 Mi Run: 73.32 Mi My run was much lower than I like at all. I am missing 27 miles from my target for the month but I am still over my target for the year. I am looking to get 100 per month and 1200 for the year. My bike is a little bit lower but still acceptable. I was looking for 500 miles for the month and I'm on target for a better than 5000 mile year with my plans for riding the rest of the season. Swim again is lower than planned and this is always a fight because of pool availability. Some of these days I had storm repairs to make and others were unplanned days away from training. However, I did have some lazy days I simply decided not to train..........like yesterday. I'm not sure why my numbers aren't/didn't show in the first post. So I'm trying again. Swim - 9623 yards (I had one long course swim in a 50 meter pool) Bike - 479.18 miles Run - 73.32 miles My run was 27 miles lower than I would like to have seen!! I have had a goal of 100 miles a month for the year. The good news is that I am still ahead of my goal in total mileage but I can't allow to many months of reduced mileage or I'll be off my goal. Edited by DirkP 2013-07-01 7:30 PM |
2013-07-01 9:21 PM in reply to: Jo63 |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by Jo63 My June totals June's totals Swim: 4h 41m 11s - 12712 yds Bike: 17h 10m 22s - 152.83 Run:: 15h 50m 34s - 49.84 Mi Strength: : 3h 55m As I don't have anyway to measure inside miles I am thinking a new bike trainer is my next big purchase. I always guesstimate my trainer miles based upon a reasonable outdoor average. For me, I use 15mph when I use my road bike on the trainer and 16 mph when I use my tri bike on the trainer. The averages are probably on the low side but it works for me. |
2013-07-01 9:22 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Elite 3913 far northern CA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Math report for triathletes. I was doing some triangle stuff with one of my kids, and realized the right triangle math applies to the triathlon swim. Long story short - here's my takeaway. We always hear "I didn't want to line up too far outside the shortest path because I'd have to swim more to the first buoy", but trig can tell us exactly how much more we'd have to swim, and it's WAY less than you think I bet. For instance, if you are at a race where it's 250 yards to the first buoy, and you line up 22 yards to the outside, how much further do you think you have to swim to first buoy than the people who sit on the exact line and battle it out? Wait for it, wait for it.... 1 YARD! A whole 36 inches more. And that's if you line up 66 feet outside! Go to a crazy amount - say 40 yards outside. You'd have to swim 3.2 yards more. 3.2 yards! Is that worth it to you to miss out on the battle? You decide. I understand you can't draft much out there either, but it's an option to consider if all that contact is freaking you out, and the extra yards argument is really an urban legend. Wow! I like triathlete math!!!! Cool!!! Thank you!!! |
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2013-07-02 4:08 AM in reply to: Jo63 |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by Jo63 Congrats Tony! Will good call on the IM. Sounds like you have a great plan. I need some help. I am getting discouraged at no improvement on the bike aside from riding more which I honestly don't think has helped me any. Iam considering doing a biking program with Vision quest (Robby Ventura) Or books? Or bike group ? All of the above. I will do anything at this point 13 mph in a race just isn't cutting it I have made myself a promise to learn everything about my bike including maintenance and to figure out what my issue is.......suggestions needed! Tony has the right idea for improving. The easiest way for you to pick up speed is to get into Jorge's plan and use it for all of your interval work. It is a very difficult plan, physically. You will feel like trash during nearly every work out but if you want to pick up speed it's the easiest was for you to do it. However, you mention the Vision Quest plan, which I know nothing about, and it should provide similar challenges to you for it's duration. You normally do these types of plans on the trainer during a winter focus but you can also do them outside. The issues with doing them outside are that you have hills and wind that will cause some conflicts with the timing of everything. I would certainly do the workouts outside but realize you'll have some intervals that will go a little long and some a little short because of unplanned terrain or weather related effects. The biggest thing to learn is that you need to work your HR very hard to make fitness gains. Sometimes you feel as if you just want to fall off the bike. It's all about dialing the intensity high and suffering for various periods of time for a specified workout. |
2013-07-02 6:07 AM in reply to: DirkP |
Pro 3804 Seacoast, NH! | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Warren swam in June!? I'm going to write that down on my calendar! I still have a bunch of workouts to log, but June was a pretty good month for me. I got a bunch of training in. I had a fantastic weekend at the Cape Cod Getaway. We had very humid conditions, but not too hot...just really sweaty. I want to give you guys a huge thank you. The Asphalt Junkies were huge contributors to my fund raising and it makes me so proud to know all of you. One of the people that does the MS ride is a fantastic lady and an amazing cyclist. She has been living with MS for years now and due to the money you have helped raise, she is still able to stay on her bike. She cannot run at all and has trouble walking sometimes, but she stays on her bike. She told her story before we departed on Saturday morning. I cannot express how strong these people are. I suggest that all of you take part in some sort of ride/run that benefits people who struggle with disease or hardship. It's so incredibly rewarding to see their smiling faces as you ride by. On another note, a group of about 6-8 riders averaged about 22 mph for the 80 miles on Sunday. Pace lines are AWESOME! And I lost like 8 pounds in sweat. I'm going to be scarce from tomorrow through the following weekend. We leave for our Mount Rainier climb on Thursday. I think I have everything I need. Please keep me and my fellow climbers in your thoughts and pray for a successful summit. We are taking the Kautz Ex route. It's the least traveled route for a reason I think. Here's our itinerary for anyone who is interested: Day 1 (2:00pm arrival) · Program begins. · Rental gear issue. · Introductions. · Gear check. · Leave No Trace. · Skill session. · Dinner and lodging on your own Day 2 · Meet back at IMG at 8:00am · Shuttle up to Paradise for a day of technical training · Back to IMG at the end of the day. · Dinner and lodging on your own. Day 3 · Meet back at IMG at 8:00am (Breakfast on your own) · 8:30 depart for Paradise (trailhead) · 9:30 Check-in with park and begin climb to Camp 1 · Traverse the lower Nisqually Glacier and make camp at ~7000ft Day 4 · Breakfast · Continued training along the way to our high camp at ~10,000ft · Early dinner Day 5 · Summit day. Early morning departure for summit. 1AM · Descend back to high camp (12-16 hour day) · Dinner Day 6 · Breakfast · Break camp · Down to trailhead ~1:00pm · Back in Ashford ~2:00 |
2013-07-02 6:16 AM in reply to: jgerbodegrant |
Expert 1439 Tallahassee | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Jonathan, enjoy your hike and be careful! Warren thanks for the math session, that was very interesting! |
2013-07-02 6:51 AM in reply to: KWDreamun |
Veteran 487 Nova Scotia, Canada | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Hey everyone, haven't checked in over the past week too often as works been busy and Ive been just doing a light recovery week, (in the plan and felt like my body needed it.) Looks like evertyone has been busy. Weather has been just brutal here lately, I dont think Ive seen the sun in weeks. Since the weathers been so bad and the TdF is on, I decided to jump on the trainer for an hour. Its been a few months since I did a workout with Traineroad.com so I figured I would do a FTP test to reaccess my fitness. Well I felt great, felt like I could put out about 20% more watts then before,.......until about 13 minutes into the test when I just blew up! Big Time. I started about 30 watts above my target from my last FTP and held it for about 5 minutes, then I started fading pretty hard and decided the data from the test wouldn't be that good as Id faded below my target from my last FTP test. So I just bagged it and limped in the last few minutes. Ive never puked on the trainer, but that was close. But it was a great workout and since yesterday was Canada Day, (our July 4th) and I was off, and it was raining, I jumped on the trainer again. I didn't do another FTP test but I did do a 90 minute interval with 5 ten minute sets of over under FTP. I really need to make sure I do at least one trainer workout a week as I really love their plans. Right now though its fingers crossed for sun. I hear it may be making a return soon. Also anyone else watching the tour? ALso Ill post my June totals tonight after I upload 2 last week workouts from my watch. Cheers, and I hope everyone has some great July 4th plans. |
2013-07-02 8:21 AM in reply to: BigDaddyD79 |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Jonathan congrats on a successful and rewarding ride for MS. Great to hear that you had a good time and that the ride was a success. Good luck and be safe out there with the rest of your group. I hope you have a great time climbing Mt. Rainier. You better take some photos as well and share them with us! JoAnne I totally agree with Dirk on the interval work. I don't think the program matters whether it is Jorge's plan, trainer road, sufferfest or whatever. Any of those things will help you. Also if you are in for a new trainer check out the Kurt Kinetic trainer and their bike computer. It's pretty reasonable and it is a poor man's power meter which will allow you to train on there using power instead of HR which I think is a little easier and you don't have to break the bank as power meters are not cheap as you probably already know. Derek nice work on the trainer. You know you are doing it right and giving it your best effort if you feel like you have to toss your cookies at the end of a hard session or FTP test. Honestly I don't miss doing any of that after doing 16 weeks of Jorge Martinez's BT winter cycling program this past off season but it definitely has made me a much better rider this season. |
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2013-07-02 8:24 AM in reply to: KWDreamun |
Veteran 454 Cairo, GA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Warren - I love your triathlete math. I think it should be incorporated into all trig books in every high school! July has not started off with a bang.... every workout attemtped has been cut short, cancelled due to rain, or had to pass.... I know we are only two days in so far, but man I love to start the month off with a long run, ride, or swim and just didn't start that way. |
2013-07-02 2:22 PM in reply to: jenbmosley |
Extreme Veteran 868 Racine, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Derek, way to work hard on the trainer! I am watching TDF crazy first day hey? Jen, it's only the 2nd and your not happy with your training you are too funny Jonathan have an awesome trip! Can't wait to see pictures! |
2013-07-02 4:33 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Expert 1151 Las Vegas, NV | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Hi all. Been a while. I'm doing good. It is hot here, 118 degrees mid day around 108 early mornings & evenings. We have pretty much been living in the pool and our air conditioned house. Just got back from a nice vacation in Jacksonville Florida where my parents have a condo so that gave us a break from the heat. Looking to get back on schedule with running and spin classes today. Dina - you have always been a kind, positive, and supportive motivator to me. Thank you. The group would not be the same with out you. I hope you find happiness in whatever you decide to do with racing |
2013-07-02 11:59 PM in reply to: jpbis26 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Speaking of riding on the trainer... I read last week that 1 hr on the trainer is the equivalent of about 1.5 hours outdoors b/c of all the coasting, stopping at red lights, etc. that you have to do when outside vs. the constant pedaling on the trainer. |
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