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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by k9car363 Hey everyone! Well, it is official. Spring has sprung! I know some of you are still dealing with some inclement weather, but for the rest of us, it is beginning to look like training outdoors is an option. I am stuck on the trainer for several more weeks unfortunately, but maybe some of you are venturing out on your bike for the first time in a long time? What's on your agenda this weekend? More snow, but I know the end is in sight. For me, I.m sick in bed with a bad GI upset. My goal for the weekend is to get enough fluids to stay inside so that I don't become dehydrated. Darn! Deb |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by k9car363 Hey everyone! Well, it is official. Spring has sprung! I know some of you are still dealing with some inclement weather, but for the rest of us, it is beginning to look like training outdoors is an option. I am stuck on the trainer for several more weeks unfortunately, but maybe some of you are venturing out on your bike for the first time in a long time? What's on your agenda this weekend? Our tri club has a Poker Run this morning. There's a 1.5 mile loop and you get a card for every completed loop. Best poker hand wins. I've never done one of these before, but it sounds like fun! Steve and Scott - glad to hear you two are on the mend! Scott I. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "You aren't old until age becomes your excuse." Joe Friel |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() My first official cycling event was this morning and I loved it! I did the ride 2 recovery honor ride for disabled vets, and signed up for 40 miler. It was mostly on a public exercise trail, with way too many overpass bridges (15 climbs & descends). Total mileage was 38.75 miles, which I did in 2.5 hours. It wasn't a race but I averaged a comfortable 15.2 mph, which gives me something to work on, looking ahead to my 70.3. I felt great and probably could have done the 60 mile option, but I didn't want to push it. My only regret is that I didn't have any friends doing it with me. My cycling shorts protected my privates well, and my legs don't feel too bad. I highly recommend this event, which happens in other cities, to others. Now I need to look for another event like this. 5 weeks until St Anthony's tri. ?? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by k9car363 Hey everyone! Well, it is official. Spring has sprung! I know some of you are still dealing with some inclement weather, but for the rest of us, it is beginning to look like training outdoors is an option. I am stuck on the trainer for several more weeks unfortunately, but maybe some of you are venturing out on your bike for the first time in a long time? What's on your agenda this weekend? Speaking of Spring, this morning I enjoyed one of my annual rites of Spring, running the Chalottesville 10 miler. Oldest road race in town and always a fun and challenging race. Did better than expected given my recent training and back issues. Managed to keep a steady sub 9:00 pace throughout and improved on last year's time (which was nothing to write home about) by 2 min. http://beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid... Also marks the official start of triathlon season for me. Hoping to get out for a real bike ride tomorrow. Can't get in the mountains yet, but will go to a local resort area to bike where they have leash laws. But more importantly, daughter is coming home tomorrow evening, so am very much looking forward to a few days with her! Happy weekend, everyone! Stu |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by k9car363 Hey Everyone - Here is the more detailed breakdown I promised for the Weight Loss/Workout Challenge. How you earn points -
Weight stayed at 149 and I exercised 11hrs 21min (200 min swimming, 330 min biking, and 151 min running). So, my points for the week:
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() After all the discussion about trainerroad, I looked into it a little bit. I have a question for those of you who use it: I don't have, nor am I about to buy, a power meter, but I see the program allows for "virtual power" using certain trainers. I have been thinking about upgrading my trainer anyway, since it was pretty bottom-of-the-line when I got it a few years ago. So I could get one of the Kurt Kinetics, probably the cheaper one, and try the program. People here seem to be doing well with it. Have any of you gone the virtual power route, or do you all have power taps or other meters? Deb |
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![]() ![]() | ![]() Report from Tom 5 points no weight gain 1 point lost one pound for awhile 17 points for 8.5 hours exercise 23 points not a bad week Swam 2000 yards in 34:05 in pool with fins as time trial Hope you all had good week |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try After all the discussion about trainerroad, I looked into it a little bit. I have a question for those of you who use it: I don't have, nor am I about to buy, a power meter, but I see the program allows for "virtual power" using certain trainers. I have been thinking about upgrading my trainer anyway, since it was pretty bottom-of-the-line when I got it a few years ago. So I could get one of the Kurt Kinetics, probably the cheaper one, and try the program. People here seem to be doing well with it. Have any of you gone the virtual power route, or do you all have power taps or other meters? Deb Deb, I use virtual power with the Kurt Kinetic road machine. You don't want the Kinetic Magnetic or the Kinetic Cyclone, but the Kinetic Road Machine and the Kinetic Rock and Roll work well with virtual power. You will also need to get a speed/cadence sensor, but they aren't very expensive. The virtual power is very self consistent as long as you always use the same trainer, tire pressure, etc. If you increase your power by 10W it will correctly show an increase of 10W. However, it isn't always accurate. If it says I'm generating 200W I may actually be generating anywhere from 160W to 240W. Because it consistently and correctly shows the change in power, it works well for training. The lack of accuracy is only a problem if you compare your virtual power numbers with power-meter numbers (yours, or your friends). Scott I. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You aren't old until age becomes your excuse." Joe Friel |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by EchoLkScott Originally posted by ok2try After all the discussion about trainerroad, I looked into it a little bit. I have a question for those of you who use it: I don't have, nor am I about to buy, a power meter, but I see the program allows for "virtual power" using certain trainers. I have been thinking about upgrading my trainer anyway, since it was pretty bottom-of-the-line when I got it a few years ago. So I could get one of the Kurt Kinetics, probably the cheaper one, and try the program. People here seem to be doing well with it. Have any of you gone the virtual power route, or do you all have power taps or other meters? Deb Deb, I use virtual power with the Kurt Kinetic road machine. You don't want the Kinetic Magnetic or the Kinetic Cyclone, but the Kinetic Road Machine and the Kinetic Rock and Roll work well with virtual power. You will also need to get a speed/cadence sensor, but they aren't very expensive. The virtual power is very self consistent as long as you always use the same trainer, tire pressure, etc. If you increase your power by 10W it will correctly show an increase of 10W. However, it isn't always accurate. If it says I'm generating 200W I may actually be generating anywhere from 160W to 240W. Because it consistently and correctly shows the change in power, it works well for training. The lack of accuracy is only a problem if you compare your virtual power numbers with power-meter numbers (yours, or your friends). Scott I. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You aren't old until age becomes your excuse." Joe Friel Thanks, Scott. I am looking at the KK Road Machine. Do you have to get the Kinetic InRide Watt meter as well to use the trainerroads software? I already have a Cat-eye for speed/cadence sensing Deb Edited by ok2try 2015-03-22 4:13 PM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi All Highlight of the week for me was volunteering at IRONMAN Melbourne. I've posted a write up: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... Didn't leave much time for any workouts but the weight remained the same. 5 points for me. Hopefully I'll get the chance to train this week. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try Thanks, Scott. I am looking at the KK Road Machine. Do you have to get the Kinetic InRide Watt meter as well to use the trainerroads software? I already have a Cat-eye for speed/cadence sensing Deb No, I don't have the Kinetic InRide Watt meter. All you need is a speed sensor. Scott I. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by AussieTurtle Hi All Highlight of the week for me was volunteering at IRONMAN Melbourne. I've posted a write up: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... Didn't leave much time for any workouts but the weight remained the same. 5 points for me. Hopefully I'll get the chance to train this week. Rod, Sounds like fun. What did you do? Scott I. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You aren't old until age becomes your excuse." Joe Friel |
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Official BT Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try After all the discussion about trainerroad, I looked into it a little bit. I have a question for those of you who use it: I don't have, nor am I about to buy, a power meter, but I see the program allows for "virtual power" using certain trainers. I have been thinking about upgrading my trainer anyway, since it was pretty bottom-of-the-line when I got it a few years ago. So I could get one of the Kurt Kinetics, probably the cheaper one, and try the program. People here seem to be doing well with it. Have any of you gone the virtual power route, or do you all have power taps or other meters? Deb Hi Deb, I will take a swing at explaining this. First, you need a trainer and a speed sensor. On the Trainer Road site you can verify if your equipment will work. The Kurt Kinetic Road Machine works very well with Trainer Road. You will also need an ANT+ or Bluetooth speed sensor. You do not need an actual power meter nor do you need the Kinetic InRide Watt Meter. Because Trainer Road can estimate virtual power reasonably well with equipment that most serious triathletes already own it a very attractive training tool. Now, on the the precision/accuracy debate. When I signed up for Trainer Road back in January, the first thing I did was an 8-minute FTP test. I was very concerned when my results came in 47 watts higher than the 20-minute test I had just done a couple of weeks previously so I immediately found myself neck deep in the accuracy/precision question. The first week of training I did with Trainer Road after the FTP test, I made sure I had my Garmin Edge on and I paired Trainer Road so I could record the Trainer Road power output and compare it to my Vector power meter numbers. As it turned out, Trainer Road consistently showed 32 watts higher than my Vectors. That troubled me deeply. Being a techno nerd (I am after all an I.T. Consultant), and because I am somewhat anal about things like this, I simply had to explain the large difference and figure out which one was the accurate result. Accuracy - how close a measured value is to the actual (true) value. Precision- how close a series of measurements are to each other. Then I realized that I was asking the wrong question. In reality, there is no way for anyone short of an engineer with a lab full of equipment to tell if Trainer Road, or any power meter for that matter, are 'accurate.' What is important is whether a power meter, or Trainer Road's virtual power, are precise, also known as consistent - i.e. reporting the same power number for the same input. At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what the power meter (including TR) is reporting - it could be Once I came to that realization, I did another 20-minute FTP test (outdoors using my Vectors) and it came back 15 watts higher than the test I had done 3-weeks previously. Just that fast, my universe was back in alignment as I had figured out where the discrepancy had come from. One or both of my devices are not accurate, but they are both precise. Assuming your tire pressure and roller pressure are the same each time, Trainer Road has been shown to be very precise. More importantly, people that consistently use Trainer Road and follow one of their plans consistently show improvement. My short answer to your question is I use Vector power meters outdoors or when racing and use Trainer Road virtual power indoors on the trainer. Hope that helps. Edited by k9car363 2015-03-22 7:29 PM |
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Official BT Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lost 1.2 pounds. Had 6.2 hours on the trainer. Have never been so happy to spend 6+ hours on the trainer! |
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Official BT Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try More snow, but I know the end is in sight. For me, I.m sick in bed with a bad GI upset. My goal for the weekend is to get enough fluids to stay inside so that I don't become dehydrated. Darn! Deb I likely would have had a stronger word than "Darn!" Hope your feeling better soon Deb. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() This weeks numbers: 368 training minutes for 12pts, no weight gain or loss for 5 pts. total= 17 points. Did an indoor event with my local club on Sunday. I was happy with my result because I managed a 90 second improvement in swim segment over last year's number, so even though I'm still pretty slow in the water, I'm improving. ![]() The snow is finally melting here, so I'm planning to start running outdoors again this week. Happy training. Dave |
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New user ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Spring has not sprung here yet up in Boston. Temps still in the 20-30s and this snow will just not melt and go away. Worst winter ever to try and train for my first marathon. Was finally able to run outside last week and ran 15 miles on a fairly clear hilly low traffic road in a state park near my house and did another 16 miles this week. I would have preferred something flatter but hey, you take what you can get. I think slow and steady finishes the race is going to be my motto. I was never a big treadmill person but I think it was a smart way to go this winter. Hope everyone is doing well. |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by EchoLkScott Originally posted by ok2try Thanks, Scott. I am looking at the KK Road Machine. Do you have to get the Kinetic InRide Watt meter as well to use the trainerroads software? I already have a Cat-eye for speed/cadence sensing Deb No, I don't have the Kinetic InRide Watt meter. All you need is a speed sensor. Scott I. OK, I'm getting closer to understanding this. I guess I'm orderiing the KK Road Machine trainer, maybe today. I see from the trainerroads website that my speed/cadence sensor is not compatible. (It's a wireless Cateye, but not an ANT device.) So I'll need to replace it. Scott & Scott, you've been so helpful; any recommendations? What sensor do youi use? I use my Polar for HR & GPS when outside, so I don't think I want to invest in a different big system. Also, I do have an iphone & I see there is a trainerroad iphone app, but I don't know how that would fit into the scheme of things. I am slightly afraid that I'll have so much crap wired to my bike that it'll be too much trouble to take it down & ride outside! ( I do have 2 bikes, one set up road and the other aero, but I do like to switch them off when I go outside. If I ever get to go outside again. 12° here this morning. ) Thanks again for your help. Deb |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try OK, I'm getting closer to understanding this. I guess I'm orderiing the KK Road Machine trainer, maybe today. I see from the trainerroads website that my speed/cadence sensor is not compatible. (It's a wireless Cateye, but not an ANT device.) So I'll need to replace it. Scott & Scott, you've been so helpful; any recommendations? What sensor do youi use? I use my Polar for HR & GPS when outside, so I don't think I want to invest in a different big system. Also, I do have an iphone & I see there is a trainerroad iphone app, but I don't know how that would fit into the scheme of things. I am slightly afraid that I'll have so much crap wired to my bike that it'll be too much trouble to take it down & ride outside! ( I do have 2 bikes, one set up road and the other aero, but I do like to switch them off when I go outside. If I ever get to go outside again. 12° here this morning. ) Thanks again for your help. Deb Deb, I use the iPhone app with a Wahoo Bluetooth speed and cadence sensor ($60 from Amazon). I also have a Wahoo Tickr Bluetooth heart-rate monitor, but that it optional. The iPhone app works really well IMO - very easy to connect with the sensors. I access TrainerRoad.com to determine which ride I'm doing based on the training plan and to analyze the data for my "career" after the ride. Scott I. |
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Official BT Coach ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ok2try Originally posted by EchoLkScott OK, I'm getting closer to understanding this. I guess I'm orderiing the KK Road Machine trainer, maybe today. I see from the trainerroads website that my speed/cadence sensor is not compatible. (It's a wireless Cateye, but not an ANT device.) So I'll need to replace it. Scott & Scott, you've been so helpful; any recommendations? What sensor do youi use? I use my Polar for HR & GPS when outside, so I don't think I want to invest in a different big system. Also, I do have an iphone & I see there is a trainerroad iphone app, but I don't know how that would fit into the scheme of things. I am slightly afraid that I'll have so much crap wired to my bike that it'll be too much trouble to take it down & ride outside! ( I do have 2 bikes, one set up road and the other aero, but I do like to switch them off when I go outside. If I ever get to go outside again. 12° here this morning. ) Thanks again for your help. Deb Originally posted by ok2try Thanks, Scott. I am looking at the KK Road Machine. Do you have to get the Kinetic InRide Watt meter as well to use the trainerroads software? I already have a Cat-eye for speed/cadence sensing Deb No, I don't have the Kinetic InRide Watt meter. All you need is a speed sensor. Scott I. Deb, I recommend Garmin. Here is a link to Amazon for the speed sensor: Here is a link to Amazon for the speed/cadence sensor: Finally, you will also need an ANT+ dongle for your computer. Mine came with my Garmin watch so the watch could talk to garmin express and upload to garmin connect. Here is an Amazon link for the ANT+ dongle if you don't already have one: As to, "I am slightly afraid that I'll have so much crap wired to my bike that it'll be too much trouble to take it down & ride outside!" There isn't anything that is wired to the bike as everything is wireless and in reality it is only the speed sensor.. I put my bike on the trainer, turn on my laptop, open trainer road, choose my workout, and go. When I am done, I take my bike outside and ride. No hassle either way. Trainer Road will pair with your speed sensor through the ANT+ dongle I referred to above. It will also pair to any other ANT+ devices you may have. I also use a cadence sensor, which is invaluable to me, as well as a HR monitor. Trainer Road will pair with all of them and display their output on the training screen. (Note on other ANT+ devices - Polar doesn't always play nice with other manufacturer devices so I can't speak to Polar's compatibility). It doesn't take that long to get things setup and working properly. Trust me, it is well worth any inconvenience that setting it up may present! If you run into a problem getting it setup, send me a private message and I will help walk you through it (remember I do the technology thing for a living and I will be happy to help you get it functioning). Edited by k9car363 2015-03-23 1:53 PM |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by EchoLkScott Originally posted by AussieTurtle Hi All Highlight of the week for me was volunteering at IRONMAN Melbourne. I've posted a write up: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp... Didn't leave much time for any workouts but the weight remained the same. 5 points for me. Hopefully I'll get the chance to train this week. Rod, Sounds like fun. What did you do? Scott I. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- "You aren't old until age becomes your excuse." Joe Friel Hi Scott, Click on the link in the post to read about what I did. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Weight Loss Challenge: Recovery week 211 min = 7 points No wt loss or gain = 5 points Total 12 points Going back to the motivational question - I never noticed before this last week but working out is very motivational during build weeks but slow recovery weeks are really hard to keep up motivation. I'm actually glad to be back to regular schedule again. Spring has sprung here. Dandelions and cherry blossoms are out and tulips won't be far behind. Had a great swim and run (hills) today. First outdoor ride tomorrow.
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Late again, on vacation and on the go. 330 min workout, holding steady on the weight. 12 points total |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Deb Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but you would also need an ANT stick for tour computer, it goes in your USB port to communicate with your speed and cadence sensor. I have a wahoo speed and cadence sensor, I picked up everything on amazon pretty cheap. The wahoo is an all I'm one sensor. We'll worth it in my opinion. Dan |
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![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Mountaindan Deb Not sure if anyone else mentioned it, but you would also need an ANT stick for tour computer, it goes in your USB port to communicate with your speed and cadence sensor. I have a wahoo speed and cadence sensor, I picked up everything on amazon pretty cheap. The wahoo is an all I'm one sensor. We'll worth it in my opinion. Dan The iPhone (4s or later) has built-in Bluetooth so no ANT stick is needed (assuming the speed sensor is Bluetooth). Otherwise, yes you need either an ANT stick or a very specific Bluetooth stick (instructions are on TrainerRoad.com). Scott I. |
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