kenj - motivated triathletes in training - CLOSED (Page 34)

Got my longest run in a long time in today (6.5) and got back in time to catch the opening kickoff.  I've got an Ole Miss Rebel on all four teams today so I'm guaranteed to win.

Hope everyone has a good week.

I guess there's something to be said for consistency. I was feeling pretty bummed (aka PO'd) after my 1st group track workout Tuesday, wondering where those d*n hills on the track came from, and all I did was 3 painfully slow miles. Did my prescribed 3 again on Wednesday & Thursday, and it sucked progressively less (if you don't count my klutz sprawl in the street). Had to miss yesterday's run bc of the white crap on the ground, but enough sidewalks were de-iced today for me to have a 95% clear route, and the 4 today, even after spin class, didn't totally suck. Maybe there's hope for me yet

Tonight's agenda, the ultimate in endurance training: sleepover with 7 teen/pre-teen girls (no school tomorrow). Wish me luck!

The ultimate endurance event!!!!

Good Luck!!!

I'm wondering about the pedal based systems too.  But I invested on eBay in a deal and got 3 Bontrager Aerolus 5.0, two rear wheels and a front, including one with a rear PT hub so I have a race wheel and a training wheel.  The deal was too good...1800 for the complete PT and 3 wheels?  My first auction.So I'm set for a while.  I have PT cradles on two road bikes and my TT bike and only have to change out the rear wheel. Works pretty good. 

Ken,

"Will work for 5% - 7% Gains!" 

OMG, if I could just gain an extra 2 MPH Average I'd be ok... 3MPH Average I'd be estatic!  I bike so slow, that my bike "Beep's" to alert other riders that I'm moving in "Reverse" !!!! 

I rode it for the first time on the Computrainer on Saturday and I barely pushed 100 WATTS.  Add that to my weight (205lbs) and an incline 2% - 5%... not a winning combination.   

I will download the Jorge plan and read more about the suggestions there... but if I can see a gain by June 2012... I will be one very happy individual!

If I had the patience to wait for the Pedal Based Power Meter I think that would be the best way to go.  It allows the best flexibility across bikes and wheels.

Will let you know once I start and how "I go!" 

Keep sending good thoughts because I don't know myself to be a fast, strong cyclist... I just keep hoping that it will somehow be possible.

~Carla

...could've been worse - stopped my daughter from brewing coffee as requested at 8:30 pm....

Not sure if any of you are members of "The " , but there is a sale on Sugoi gear right now - some of it's 60% off.

https://www..com/invite-from/russrisher

I'm not sure if you have to have an invite to look at this stuff.  If you do, let me know your email and I can send it to you.  I think I get $10 credit if someone signs up.

Edited to try to fix the link - It's removing the website.  If this is against the forum rules in anyway, let me know and I will delete.

Ha-Ha...that IS Funny!!!

How old were they?

Kenj,

You mentioned the Jorge Plan you were using with your Power Trainer... where would I find that here on BT?

I still find this site terribly difficult to navigate...

Directions would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

~Carla

almost & just 13.. 7th graders. when I asked why, she said "but people drink it at home." no one could tell me if decaf or not... like i was really going to give them caffeine on top of the chocolate cake & ice cream they'd just polished off. this is also a group that also sneaks books & flashlights into their sleeping bags, so it could've been wilder...

Hi Carla!

The Jorge program is actually described at BT as a winter cycling program.  If you click programs it is the last available program if you page all the way down.  I think it refers to something like cycling with power program. 

I just got my elite fluid trainer and went for my first ride tonight. I have a real hang up with having to konw how far I've gone and how fast I was going.  I have a Cats II bike computer.  I moved my sensor to the rear wheel but I don't think it was giving and accurate reading.  My speed was considerably slower with what I feel like would have been a much faster speed with the same effort outside.  I wish there was a better way to keep up with speed and time on the trainer.  Anyone have any ideas? 

Wesley, double check your rear sensors... I have always had my sensors on the rear tire and feel that my readings are accurate based on both indoors and outdoor training sessions. 

The drag on  your rear wheel may be greater on your trainer than outside... and depending on the fly wheel weight and pressure against your tire you may be riding "slower" indoors. 

I would trust the equipment reading.  I have a very old Cateye along with my Garmin 310XT and I get similar readings from both with respect to speed indoors vs outside. 

Let us know how it goes.

~Carla

Found it... reading now... Interesting!!!

Kenj,

Q.  So... where it says to go @ 80 - 85% of CP... is there a way to set your Garmin for that threshold?

I get the same thing. I have a very basic trainer from Nashabar and i think the resistance is just higher indoors. I am enjoying all the banter about tech. I am about as low tech as can be when it comes to training. It kills me to spend a nickel on this stuff. I have been riding the same $400 bike for six years with all the same parts (except tires and pedals). I know that I am in the minority too. I figure I need to lose fifty pounds from my gut before any new bikes parts would make the journey lighter....

It may or may not be accurate, but it is only relavent to other rides on the trainer for the reasons Carla mentioned.  For a while I had 2 trainers, one was a Kurt Kinetic and the other a Cycle Ops.  Both comparable fluid trainer.  There was a 5 mph difference in avg. speed with the same power readings consistantly.  The Kurt Kinetic would have me struggling to avg 14 mph and I could easily do over 20 on the Cycle Ops.  So I sold the Kinetic.  

But where it is relevant is in measuring your efforts against previous trainer rides.  HR helps with that too if you have a monitor.

Enjoy the fitness gains the new trainer will bring you!

Yes, I have loaded the workouts into the Garmin before.  It has been a while though and I don't have my users manual with me here.  I beleive it is in the training menu when you are in the bike mode.  It is a handy feature that I never remember to program ahead of time.

If I don't remember to post the instructions this weekend when I get home, remind me and I will do that.  Did you do the test to determine your CP?  I don't know if you saw the link on the instruction page that gives you the instructions for the test and once the test is done you can load in your results and it will give you your CP and all the training ranges.

Have fun with it!

The 3 weeks with the boot has flown by - today is the first day without it.  Ken you asked earlier whether I think it helped my pf. It is definately not worse and I think it is slowly (very slowly) getting better but I doubt it had anything to do with the boot. Being on my feet (walking, standing, etc...) seems to be the driving force here.  When I am not on my feet for the day it feels good and vice versa. Still continuing to stretch, ice, sleep in the sock, etc.... til it dissapears (which will hopefully be soon!)

Got a great swim in today - my main set was 4x500's all of which came in within 5 seconds of each other. 

I hope everyone is having a great week!  Ken soak up some of that sun for me!

Work got the best of yesterday.

Today was a little aggravating...what better reason to "run it out"

10k for me on treadmill...

Trainer indoors and outdoor speed rarely are exact.   When you're outside, you can coast, and when you go downhills you can go incredible high speeds. On the trainer, you can't do that. You're consistently pedaling. 

I'm about 2-3mph slower on the trainer than I am outside. I do find that I go lower effort as I'm not on daunting hills like in Vegas.  I normally go on a trainer for shorter rides/intervals/drills, etc.

Don't worry about the speed.  When I'm on the trainer, I log it as TRAINER, and put in 15 per hour (if it's 30 min, I put in 7.5mi for example), because I know I avg 15mph outside.

Instead, focus more on your cadence, that doesn't change.   I don't use Power, so I don't know if watts is the same in and out. 

How did you do? :-)   Sometimes when I'm feeling frustrated from school or just damn annoyed, I go for a quick run, and find that I'm a min/mi faster than I normally am, and it feels great! Perhaps someone can p*$$ me off before race day...:-) 

I see on the Garmin under Bike > Training > Custom that I can program an Interval, say Time = 5 min and have a Power Commitment...

Q.  Is that what you mean by "Loading workouts into your Garmin"?

I have not yet done the Power Test... I think I'm a little nervous to "See how I go"... the hiding is over and the stats will be posted...  Stats are personal, yet I'll have to share them with my coach(s) <-- including you guys here on BT!  ;-) 

Kenj - I plan to just test for 1 x 20 min Max Effort.  Just to get a baseline.  I see the link that you gave me and the testing protocol (1 x 20 min + 1 x 5 min)... and had someone simply advise me to use 1 x 20 min.

I feel like there is so much input regarding Power... how to test and how to train... I hope I can find a happy medium with respect to information overload and  trusting my "Primary Coach".

I agree, this is often the case!!!!

I will send some your way!  But, sadly I am packing up and heading home today. 

Nice work in the pool!