Election 2016 (Page 34)

Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy

Originally posted by Rogillio

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Scott71

Originally posted by Rogillio

Backfiring is exactly right.

Curious why you think the recent allegations are backfiring?  And I ask as a genuine question and not meant to be snarky.

The fact that they are all consistent with the conduct Trump brags about in the audio gives them more credibility in my view.

I think the Cosby analogy above is appropriate.  I believe there are currently 10 separate allegations of inappropriate conduct.  Is that not a critical mass for the Trump faithful to say whoa, there may be something to this?

Theyre a little too manufactured and consistent In the light of all the media/campaign collusion that's coming to light.

Lots of holes and witnesses that back trump in several cases.  In several examples the trump campaign even responded to the story and the NYT omitted their responses because it minimized the impact.  In other words this couldn't be a more obvious political hit piece and nothing more.  The more the media shows they're untrustworthy the more Trump wins.

while ll this is going on they're in complete silence about Hillary's corruption emails that are coming to light.

Hence backfire.

Ha! It doesn't even require hacking e-mails to spot Trump's frauds. How bout a little Trump U.? How bout a nice fat check to the FL attorney general who decided not to proceed with an investigation of Trump U.? No corruption there at all! It was a coincidence she received money from the Trump Foundation. Yeah, that's the ticket! btw, as for the multitude of allegations...you call them "too consistent." BWAHAHAHA!!! You realize either way, you're not buying the accusations. They are either too consistent, or just inconsistent...win win baby!!!

what do you think about the $1m check bill got from qatar for his birthday?  

This works both ways.  You see no wrong in Bill and Hill because they support your ideology and then you mock me?

Yeah funny how the left just ignore the $1M BD gift. It's called buying influence and you have to be willfully ignorant to not see it. It's corruption!!

I suggest you take a little bit of time to research how great the Clinton Foundation is...just take two seconds of time actually researching what they do. Take off the Hannity/Limbaugh lenses to see with clarity.

Dude...you know I love you....NOTHING those people do is "great".

Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy

Originally posted by Rogillio

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by ChineseDemocracy

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Scott71

Originally posted by Rogillio

Backfiring is exactly right.

Curious why you think the recent allegations are backfiring?  And I ask as a genuine question and not meant to be snarky.

The fact that they are all consistent with the conduct Trump brags about in the audio gives them more credibility in my view.

I think the Cosby analogy above is appropriate.  I believe there are currently 10 separate allegations of inappropriate conduct.  Is that not a critical mass for the Trump faithful to say whoa, there may be something to this?

Theyre a little too manufactured and consistent In the light of all the media/campaign collusion that's coming to light.

Lots of holes and witnesses that back trump in several cases.  In several examples the trump campaign even responded to the story and the NYT omitted their responses because it minimized the impact.  In other words this couldn't be a more obvious political hit piece and nothing more.  The more the media shows they're untrustworthy the more Trump wins.

while ll this is going on they're in complete silence about Hillary's corruption emails that are coming to light.

Hence backfire.

Ha! It doesn't even require hacking e-mails to spot Trump's frauds. How bout a little Trump U.? How bout a nice fat check to the FL attorney general who decided not to proceed with an investigation of Trump U.? No corruption there at all! It was a coincidence she received money from the Trump Foundation. Yeah, that's the ticket! btw, as for the multitude of allegations...you call them "too consistent." BWAHAHAHA!!! You realize either way, you're not buying the accusations. They are either too consistent, or just inconsistent...win win baby!!!

what do you think about the $1m check bill got from qatar for his birthday?  

This works both ways.  You see no wrong in Bill and Hill because they support your ideology and then you mock me?

Yeah funny how the left just ignore the $1M BD gift. It's called buying influence and you have to be willfully ignorant to not see it. It's corruption!!

I suggest you take a little bit of time to research how great the Clinton Foundation is...just take two seconds of time actually researching what they do. Take off the Hannity/Limbaugh lenses to see with clarity.

not looking so great http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/16/just-5-7-percent-of-clinton-foundation-budget-actually-went-to-charity/

even if it was a perfect charity do you feel it's appropriate for a foreign country to be giving that kind of money for the purpose of access to the former president and Secretary of State?  Do you think Qatar was just feeling charitable?  What about all the other countries?

do you know any women who have been sexually assaulted?

One thing I will say is that it was a different time so people would react differently.  
That being said, the part of the story that I thought was telling was her mentioning that he raised the hand rest to get closer to her.  I've been in a lot of planes and flown first class quite a bit and I've never seen a first class seat that has a hand rest that raises. 

I work with what I can prove and what I can disprove......not what I think.  When is comes to sexual assault cases I ALWAYS start with the premise that the victim is telling the truth.  I know from 30 years of experience that victims of sexual assault do all kinds of things during and after that might make me scratch my head, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'll see your flight victim and raise you a couple hundred Catholic Priests and their thousands of victims who had stories that no one believed, or that they kept hidden for dozens of years.  It all happened.

I have no idea about this case that you brought up......but I know if one of my kids ever gets assaulted I don't want you anywhere near the investigation.

well I do, and as much as we like to say as a big stong man, I would do this and never let that happen, that's usually not how it goes. 

it doesn't make it the victim's fault. it doesn't make her story not true. it doesn't mean we shouldn't believe her.

you also forget that for a long time in our culture we called the woman who was assaulted a , or said it was her fault for enticing the man.  its not so simple as you would like to think

a woman I dated was assaulted by a guy she knew when she was in college.  What she told me changed my perspective about assault forever.  And I'm telling you this, as a man you will never understand until you actually open your eyes and ears and listen to someone it has happened to.

Flying in the 80's isn't like flying today.

Maybe you should listen to your wife on this one. 

and this is why so many women in our country are sexually assaulted.

Dude, look, you are not making any sense.  Do you know WHY the message is out there????  BECAUSE DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF SAID RED MONKEY!!!  The only difference is that he used the words "grab their p****".........unfortunately, when I close my eyes and try not to think about it, like in your example.....HE STILL SAID IT!!  It may be that he has never assaulted a woman. HE STILL SAID IT!!!

I think the guy can still be effective as President......there have been worse in the White House.....just don't try to tell me that I shouldn't listen to the words that come out of his own mouth.  That's absolutely ridiculous.

This isn't FB........it wasn't "someone" who said it........DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF SAID IT!! 

Ironic when Trump is the one also throwing out all kinds of conspiracies into the court of public opinion.

According to this admittedly biased website they have up to 58 of them - http://www.alternet.org/right-wing/58-donald-trump-conspiracy-theories-and-counting-definitive-trump-conspiracy-guide

I guess then it is live by the sword, die by the sword. 

Because I don't suffer fools. I'm yet to meet an ardent Trump supporter who can provide tangible rationale to their allegiance outside of "wanting someone to disrupt Washington".

That's all well and good, but I genuinely believe, based on what I've seen, read, and given my broader understanding of the geo-political landscape, that Trump lacks the mental capacity for the office, and would be downright dangerous as commander in chief of the US.

I will debate anyone who's willing to give reasoned discourse to any issue based on an evolving and flexible plain of consideration.
The most ardent of Trump supporters are blind to the reality of their own situation, and remain blinkered to the consequences of a Trump presidency.

They enjoy the sabre-rattling rhetoric, and are reassured by the fact that Trump offers credence to their socially taboo xenophibia, and mistrust of anything/anyone "different".

Go ahead, disrupt Washington, shake up Capitol Hill, but Trump is exactly the wrong person to achieve that aim.
Unfortunately for those on the right-wing, you picked your horse for the race, and his dangerous behavior will resonate for years. Combined with the implosion of the tea party movement which saw the rise of the comparably incompentent Palin, it has set back your cause for at least a decade.

Yet you are so blinded you fail to see the same things in Clinton.  Look at the world around us and tell me she and Obama are doing a great job.  

Seeing how you have such a "broader understanding" (translated: arrogance) about the world I won't bother trying to debate you.