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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() junthank - 2009-02-26 5:47 PM skrtrnr - 2009-02-26 1:34 PM just a bugger cuz i know that i was running 8:36/mile 5K pace before i got injured. sigh. time. time. time. Wow Stacie - way to go. Bet you didn't run 8:36 5K pace after doing 12 miles on the bike in 48 and 700 meters in the pool in 15:30. Super job. One of the best quotes out of Gordo's book that I constantly remind myself of is "fast follows fit" or something like that (sorry G if I butcher the quote). thank JEFF. yes. these are the things i need to remind myself. its one thing to go out and bust a move on a 5K-only and be done for the day. a whole other basket of bananas to run after doing a swim and a bike. crazy thing, except for the speed (which im certain will come, in time), i felt 'better' during this run endurancewise than i EVER felt in any of my running-only races. [it will be interesting to see how that St Pattys 5K 'feels'] the G-plan is working, nodoubtaboutit. (w those 2 hr endurance spins added in....) what is that they say....slow and steady wins the race [i really need to get the book] Edited by skrtrnr 2009-02-27 7:08 AM |
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Regular ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() No training for me next week found out yesterday I have to fly to frankfurt monday til friday for work so any spare time this weekend is family time. Never mind it will give me a rest and will just have to do lots of walking about the city to have a look round. Will have to try and get out on the bike this weekend before I go. |
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This weekends goal is to get some good running in without having the knee blow up. OH...I almost forgot! I'm getting a bike fitting done on Sunday...very excited. Edited by broonsy 2009-02-27 10:43 AM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Writebrained - 2009-02-26 4:10 PM GordoByrn - 2009-02-26 10:46 AM Writebrained - 2009-02-23 12:44 PM G-man: I have had an on-going struggle with lower-back pain. To date, I've done the following: -yoga (helps some) -streach out on medicine ball (helps some) -hamstring streaches (helps some) -spacers on tri bike (helps a lot) -physical therapy (didn't help at all) -inversion (didn't help) -chiro (always helps) I have had zero problems/minimal pain using the above techniques for the past 8 months but after skiing, a long car ride, and some running this weekend...I've been hurt'n. I could barely get my shoes on this AM. I visited the Chiro this morning. He said "things were compressed" and he DID get my back to pop which provided much relief. Any additional suggestions to avoid "compression"/pain in the lower back?
A few more questions before offering ideas... What is the longest that you will drive without stopping? 2 hours...but my chiro recently told me to stand-up and walk around every 45 min. So, I'm currently doing that.... Do you think skiing is the trigger? It could be. I've had some major episodes after skiing but I've also skied for 6 days straight without incident. After snowboarding, I always have issues. I have not snowboarded in two years - fyi. In addition to rehab/stretching -- what activities do you perform to strengthen your low abs, obliques and back? I run, bike, and swim. I also streach after runs for about 10 min. I'm open to and looking forward to your suggestions in this area..... g Stretching is useful but, with my pals with chronic back pain, strengthening works even better. Some ideas: http://www.endurancecorner.com/library/strength_training/core I recommend 15 min 2x per week -- I don't recommend incline twisting sit-ups for you -- focus on the other ones. 45 min stretch is a good one during the day -- for driving I have had good results with a max limit of 90 minutes. Hope this helps, g |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() junthank - 2009-02-26 4:31 PM GordoByrn - 2009-02-26 11:42 AM junthank - 2009-02-22 1:49 PM
I read a book about an elite chess player that used strides to refresh himself mentally. g G, Super to have you back – I missed the daily dose of TRI/LIFE wisdom – hope you enjoyed the slopes. For at least the next year for me training is going to be about increasing swim/bike/run endurance and economy. I’m not worried about speed. I believe I have a great endurance building plan in each sport for the next 4 months (thanks for the help). With regard to economy/efficiency, I have plenty of things to focus on in the water (bilateral breathing, balance, etc.) and I have the appropriate drills in place to help me get there. Likewise, on the bike I have lots of things to practice (position and cadence variations). For the run I believe I have the run/walk protocol down and I’m constantly reminding myself of the running tips from your YouTube clip while training. If I were to have an additional 15 minutes of run training time per session what run drills should I focus on? Again, the focus of the drill(s) would be run efficiency.
With an extra 15 mins per session -- I would focus on calves (see my YouTube clip); core (just linked) and flexibility (hip progression from my book). You can rotate these by run, say, 15 min each time. You'll get a good all-round benefit from including them. g |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Pashda - 2009-02-27 7:25 AM No training for me next week found out yesterday I have to fly to frankfurt monday til friday for work so any spare time this weekend is family time. Never mind it will give me a rest and will just have to do lots of walking about the city to have a look round. Will have to try and get out on the bike this weekend before I go. safe travels DAVE. and enjoy your walking tour of Frankfurt. never mind is right. the trng will be there when you get back.... Edited by skrtrnr 2009-02-27 5:50 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() had a most splendid ACTIVE REST day today. went to Phipps Conservatory to take in the Tropical plants and orchids on display. WHAT a contrast to the gray&gloomy beyond the glass walls of the solarium. i managed some light activity - urban biking - after i had my fill of flowers i took an urban ride through Oakland, to one my favorite resturants. treated myself to a post-race meal/splurge. then headed back to Schenely Park, and discovered a nice crushed limestone trail, but the deep puddles and the cold and wet got the better of me. when my jacket was soaked through, it was time to call it a day, i managed to get in 30 mins or so. the trail will be there waiting for me on a day when mother nature cooperates. another active rest day tomorrow. not sure what i have planned. enjoy the 'downtime' giving myself a few unstructured days. [mon im planning to start the Oly plan] i do know Sun im running the St. Pattys 5K course w the running club. should be fun! heres to spring springing VERY soon! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() HELLO G-TEAM. yesturday was full of family activity. its been awhile since ive gone an entire day wout workout, yesturday was the day. today i met the running club and ran the course for the St. Pattys 5K im running. i ran the first half w the group, then they went on to run their planned 10 miler, i took the turn-around and ran the 2nd half of the 5K by myself. being outside, everything took a little get used to.... kept an eye on my HR, a little high at first, just making the adjustment, (cold, cold morning) running w the group, and running on varied terrain vs. a flat indoor track.... and oh, the sweet sweet smell of manure as the tractor pulling a load drove by. this. a whole other ball of wax...but by the time i got a little past the half way mark, i hit my stride, enjoyed the back half, and my HR was reasonably in chk. [bounced around a bit, much like when i started running on the track vs the TM] sorrowful day, we visited the cemetary. we just miss C, terribly. but... a life lived well, that's my honorarium. but glad to have the last two weeks behind me. tomorrow im back at it w the start of OLY PLAN. i feel rested, recovered, and READY to get crackalacking! stacieb Edited by skrtrnr 2009-03-01 12:30 PM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey G-Team. Haven't fallen off the wagon, gone walkabout, or been thrown in a mexican prison. Just came off three days of the worst intestinal virus I can remember. At least I'll hit my weight loss goals. Back at it tomorrow, with lower intensity.
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Member ![]() ![]() | ![]() Gordo, I did the 1,000M swim test (FTPT) on Friday and after backing out the 90 seconds for the RI’s got a time of 20:01… Based on the charts in the back of your book, am I correct in assuming that Zone 1 is Easy, Zone 2 is Steady and Zone 3 would be Med-Hard? I was reading the running section of Going Long and see you have a number of Form and Speed drills. While the descriptions in the chapter are good, I was wondering if there are any videos demonstrating these? I would especially like to incorporate Strides and the form drills into my weekly schedule but feel like it’s a waste of time if I’m practicing the drills incorrectly.Thanks Doug Edited by DGubner 2009-03-02 9:53 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() started my OLY TRI PLAN today (20 week balanced, from the site) started out w a 24 min swim today. counted yesturdays 5K as todays run. im using the 1750 yard beginner swim workout plan, again downloaded from the site. w the time i had allotted i didnt get through the entire workout but i was pleased w a few results from what i was able to do today, one thing in particular stood out. as per the plan, 8x50s, the first 50 you count your strokes, and then the remaining 50 you try and hit the same number of strokes or fewer. what surprised is that after the first 50, i hit 36 strokes. thinking it was a fluke, or a lucky first try...i swam another 50. again 36 strokes. then the next 50, the same number, and then again. ok, big deal? it wasnt that long ago (maybe 4-6 weeks ago) i was hitting 40-44 strokes per 50. then, as per the plan, i 'played' 2x50 free golf. both sets, 36/:50. and these were moderate 50s. i knew that this had to be an improvement from the last round i 'played, but i actually had to look back in my plan to find my previous results to find out just how much i have improved - 45/:56 and 42/:52 were my past results. WOW! i really surprised myself, seeing such an improvement. i took the advice of the plan. it stated: 'FOCUS ON HIP ROTATION AND ARM EXTENSION RATHER THAN KICKING HARDER TO LOWER YOUR STROKE COUNT' and ive been reading quite a bit from the author about how speed comes from your hip rotation NOT just from the strength of your stroke or kick. must be true. onward! Edited by skrtrnr 2009-03-02 10:44 AM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() gtkelly - 2009-03-01 5:32 PM Hey G-Team. Haven't fallen off the wagon, gone walkabout, or been thrown in a mexican prison. Just came off three days of the worst intestinal virus I can remember. At least I'll hit my weight loss goals. Back at it tomorrow, with lower intensity.
GREG. dear me. sounds awful....glad your back at it, even if your dialing it back a little. relief to hear you werent in prison. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Writebrained - 2009-03-01 7:33 PM Got a 3.3 mile run in.... Windy and very cold.
STUPID WIND. STUPID COLD. way to go YOU, getting that run in, inspiteof. eternal optimist |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() junthank - 2009-03-01 2:34 PM
JEFF. 400 meters is something. glad your arm felt fine.... pretty tennis will have to wait another day but getting to play with your son, priceless. |
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Edited by junthank 2009-03-02 11:43 AM |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() skrtrnr - 2009-03-02 11:40 AM i took the advice of the plan. it stated: 'FOCUS ON HIP ROTATION AND ARM EXTENSION RATHER THAN KICKING HARDER TO LOWER YOUR STROKE COUNT' and ive been reading quite a bit from the author about how speed comes from your hip rotation NOT just from the strength of your stroke or kick. must be true. onward! O' come on Stacie - the real reason is that you are starting to grow gills and that ZOOT SUIT has built in side fins. Seriously, congra's on the swim improvements. Edited by junthank 2009-03-02 11:44 AM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DGubner - 2009-03-02 8:53 AM Gordo, I did the 1,000M swim test (FTPT) on Friday and after backing out the 90 seconds for the RI’s got a time of 20:01… Based on the charts in the back of your book, am I correct in assuming that Zone 1 is Easy, Zone 2 is Steady and Zone 3 would be Med-Hard? I was reading the running section of Going Long and see you have a number of Form and Speed drills. While the descriptions in the chapter are good, I was wondering if there are any videos demonstrating these? I would especially like to incorporate Strides and the form drills into my weekly schedule but feel like it’s a waste of time if I’m practicing the drills incorrectly.Thanks Doug Hey Doug -- Zn 1 to 3... you got it. Another good article that I'd like to you read is the one that I wrote for XTri last week -- it pulls together all the components that we've discussed in this group. http://xtri.com/thecorner.aspx Check out the article on Benchmarking Your Swimming -- I've had positive feedback on that article and it explains your pathway from new to expert tri swimmer. It also explains how to benchmark your different gears. Happy to answer follow-up Qs. I don't have the form/drills on video but will be shooting video down in Tucson when I am there next week. The "endurancecorner" channel on YouTube will have these when available. You will also be able to track if you subscribe to the RSS feed on my main library page: feed://www.endurancecorner.com/taxonomy/term/84/0/feed The swim videos will pop up there when I upload/create my swim technique article that embeds them. 4 weeks away, minimum as I have a few other projects going right now. But... they will be there eventually. It will be pretty simple stuff though... Three stroke; Swing Recovery; Enter Down; Pull Straight Back -- in terms of where to focus those are the four main things that I feel are essential. Strides... focus on quickness of cadence, not "fast running -- stride length should not feel long, stride is quick with foot strike under body -- if you have a safe area for barefoot running then slight downhill with barefeet helps get the footstrike correct. g
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() junthank - 2009-03-02 11:31 AM skrtrnr - 2009-03-02 11:40 AM i took the advice of the plan. it stated: 'FOCUS ON HIP ROTATION AND ARM EXTENSION RATHER THAN KICKING HARDER TO LOWER YOUR STROKE COUNT' and ive been reading quite a bit from the author about how speed comes from your hip rotation NOT just from the strength of your stroke or kick. must be true. onward! O' come on Stacie - the real reason is that you are starting to grow gills and that ZOOT SUIT has built in side fins. Seriously, congra's on the swim improvements. thanks JEFF. youre just super silly must be getting back in the pool that has you in such a good mood. those were SOME workouts, both of em! GOOD GOIN'! Edited by skrtrnr 2009-03-02 6:07 PM |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() DAY 2, splendid workout. 60 min spin 32 min swim, 1350 yds. nice spin, albeit indoors. the weather looks promising thurs, fri, saturday....i have a 64 and 80 min ride on tap. warm usually means rain this time of year in this neck of the woods....fingers crossed. i NEED a ride up at the lake, BAD. decent swim as well. wrkout as follow (as per the 1750 beginner swim workout plan on site): 4x100s, focus on head position; keep your head from moving as you swim, look down at the pool bottom. Build #4 (get faster within the 4th 100 in the set). :15 rest between 100s. 6x75 25 Fist, 50 Swim. Focus on hip rotation instead of arm pull. :15 rest 2x200 Descend #1-4. Count strokes per length and keep stroke count steady throughout set. (keep it within a range and make sure to not let your stroke count climb too high as you get faster within the set) ***THIS IS SOMETHING ILL NEED TO WORK ON, my stroke count definately climbed as i swam faster from 17-18 to 22-23 i could tell i get less efficient when im 'trying' to swim faster. got work on keeping the form together. stay relaxed. 3 stroke breathing. hand entry. hip rotation. et al. [this was 4x200s in the plan, but i reached my time limit, so i had to cut it short....] 100 cool down. 3 stroke breathing. did backstroke the final 25. |
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