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2007-10-21 11:29 PM
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2007-10-22 7:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Pack of Werewolves Team Thread (TAN)
No race on Saturday.  Did 15 on Sunday, though.
2007-10-22 7:13 AM
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Zilla - 2007-10-22 12:29 AM

Hissssssssssssssssssssssss! 

Is that before makeup in the morning?

2007-10-22 7:22 AM
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2007-10-22 7:23 AM
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so I'm at 113 of 115 for the month.  I still have a half mary this sunday and a few miles to do this week before the race. 

Scout... will you put me down for 130 for my goal.



2007-10-22 7:28 AM
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Consider it done.
2007-10-22 7:57 AM
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Oh, hey, LCT, to address your question from Friday, Re: timing for those 6 workouts (i remembered on my own, amazing).

WO #1 (Max Steady) - this is one that I would consider doing about every other week.  It's a progression run; I do these now, although I do them a little differently (I don't necessarily use 10K pace for them).

WO #2 (LR w/ "Movements" - it says marathon prep and early to mid-season base conditioning.  So, if you're going into winter maintenance phase, I'd start looking at adding this.  You could do it every week, but alternating weeks is fine, too.  Do it throughout winter, and into spring.

WO #3 (Hill Cycle) - like #1, it's year-round, Id do it once every 4 weeks to start, move up to one every 3 weeks later.  Where I live, most of my running is similar to that, so hey.  You could even do a hill-specific cycle for your training (as per Lydiard), and do this every other week for about 8-12 weeks.

WO #4 (2x7) - it says immediately prior to peak race season.  This means right before going into the major race cycle, where your "A" race is.  This workout is good for short to mid-distance runners.  I don't know how good this will be for triathletes or longer distance people.

WO #5 (Half Time Fartlek) - transition from aerobic base to race or speed season.  This one is good to help transition into higher intensity, anaerobic workouts, since it stresses both systems.

WO #6 (Mono Fartlek) - use rarely, I'd say mainly to judge fitness.  It will help identify weaknesses that need to be addressed.  Other than that, like the author says, it's a tough one, and to be used sparingly. 


 

2007-10-22 8:43 AM
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Morning y'all.  Did 5.2 on Saturday morning.  Funny thing is, I smoked it.  Did 9:20 pace essentially the entire time.  I've yet to really look at my exact pace mile to mile, but I know for at least the last 2.5 miles I kept that pace.  Fastest pace I have ever done before that on a "longer" run (longer meaning anything over 3.5 miles) was about 9:45.  I felt so good when I stopped that I probably could have gone another mile to make it a solid 10k.  It was so weird though.  It felt sooooo good.  I wasn't beat.  I wasn't tired.  Nothing.  I also wasn't watching my pace at all for the first 2.5 miles.  I just ran.  I think the base building is starting to pay off. 
2007-10-22 8:50 AM
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Gotta love those types of runs.
2007-10-22 9:16 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-10-22 8:50 AM Gotta love those types of runs.

I would say "yeah" like I knew what it was like but that's the first time that has ever happened.  I mean, that noticeable of a difference.  25 seconds less per mile is a pretty big bump for me, and to not feel it too.  I've got 4 runs this week, a two small ones (~3 miles each), one medium (~5 miles) and then a long one on Saturday (6-7 miles).  I'm stoked to see how they feel.



2007-10-22 9:28 AM
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crowny2 - 2007-10-22 10:16 AM

Scout7 - 2007-10-22 8:50 AM Gotta love those types of runs.

I would say "yeah" like I knew what it was like but that's the first time that has ever happened. I mean, that noticeable of a difference. 25 seconds less per mile is a pretty big bump for me, and to not feel it too. I've got 4 runs this week, a two small ones (~3 miles each), one medium (~5 miles) and then a long one on Saturday (6-7 miles). I'm stoked to see how they feel.

The one word of caution I have....  Don't get down if they don't all feel awesome.  Perspective is key, here.  Most runs won't be like that. 

2007-10-22 9:34 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-10-22 10:28 AM
crowny2 - 2007-10-22 10:16 AM

Scout7 - 2007-10-22 8:50 AM Gotta love those types of runs.

I would say "yeah" like I knew what it was like but that's the first time that has ever happened. I mean, that noticeable of a difference. 25 seconds less per mile is a pretty big bump for me, and to not feel it too. I've got 4 runs this week, a two small ones (~3 miles each), one medium (~5 miles) and then a long one on Saturday (6-7 miles). I'm stoked to see how they feel.

The one word of caution I have....  Don't get down if they don't all feel awesome.  Perspective is key, here.  Most runs won't be like that. 

Funny how that works.  The ones you think are going to go really well sometimes end up being the worst.  And the ones that suck... end up not sucking as much! 

2007-10-22 9:59 AM
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So the shoe or the training question was answered this weekend.  I have put about 30 miles on the new running shoes and the pain I was feeling in my lower leg has gone away.  Now... it's been replaced with the general soreness of doing my first 20 miler.  But, that is what HTFU is for.

2007-10-22 10:02 AM
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I am sure I would have felt better on my Sunday run if I hadn't re-hydrated with beer and mexican food Saturday.
2007-10-22 10:10 AM
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Mike 45 - 2007-10-22 11:02 AM I am sure I would have felt better on my Sunday run if I hadn't re-hydrated with beer and mexican food Saturday.

Yeah... me too!  I got up early saturday and ran the Komen 5K.  I did it at an easy pace with a coworker.  Then went the pub that openned at 10am for the runners.  Spatan on tap special until noon.  On top of that the boss was buying.  Stayed sober enough to drive home, shower and meet my wife at a party.  Oh look... more beer!  Finally ate for the first time that day at about 5 pm.  got home and passed out on the couch.  Moved to the bed at some point.  Got up at 5 am on Sunday and was out the door by 6:45 for my run.  Needed a LOT of fluids on that run.



2007-10-22 10:13 AM
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Yeah, a neighborhood Halloween party is primarily responsible for my not making the race on Saturday....
2007-10-22 10:38 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-10-22 9:28 AM
crowny2 - 2007-10-22 10:16 AM

Scout7 - 2007-10-22 8:50 AM Gotta love those types of runs.

I would say "yeah" like I knew what it was like but that's the first time that has ever happened. I mean, that noticeable of a difference. 25 seconds less per mile is a pretty big bump for me, and to not feel it too. I've got 4 runs this week, a two small ones (~3 miles each), one medium (~5 miles) and then a long one on Saturday (6-7 miles). I'm stoked to see how they feel.

The one word of caution I have....  Don't get down if they don't all feel awesome.  Perspective is key, here.  Most runs won't be like that. 

Thanks.  I know exactly what you mean.  You too LCT.

2007-10-22 11:13 AM
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Scout7 - 2007-10-22 11:13 AM Yeah, a neighborhood Halloween party is primarily responsible for my not making the race on Saturday....

At least we all had a good reason for our weekend performance.





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2007-10-22 12:31 PM
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Actually, the Yuengling is spot on, but it was Monte Alban mezcal, not tequila.

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2007-10-22 1:05 PM
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spokes - 2007-10-22 1:52 PM
Scout7 - 2007-10-22 10:31 AM

Actually, the Yuengling is spot on, but it was Monte Alban mezcal, not tequila.

I'm amazed your intestines didn't explode.

You and me both. 

2007-10-22 1:41 PM
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Scout7 - 2007-10-22 2:05 PM
spokes - 2007-10-22 1:52 PM
Scout7 - 2007-10-22 10:31 AM Actually, the Yuengling is spot on, but it was Monte Alban mezcal, not tequila.
I'm amazed your intestines didn't explode.

You and me both. 

Mine did at mile 1.8.  Luckily I had baby wipes with me and was able to continue the 11 mile run.

2007-10-22 1:47 PM
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Mike 45 - 2007-10-22 2:41 PM
Scout7 - 2007-10-22 2:05 PM
spokes - 2007-10-22 1:52 PM
Scout7 - 2007-10-22 10:31 AM Actually, the Yuengling is spot on, but it was Monte Alban mezcal, not tequila.
I'm amazed your intestines didn't explode.

You and me both. 

Mine did at mile 1.8.  Luckily I had baby wipes with me and was able to continue the 11 mile run.

Huh... Luckily.  Not really something I think of to bring with me.  smart man.

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