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2007-10-22 11:10 AM
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I rode the frustration away with my longest SOLO ride 25 miles (1hr 50 min)...once I get fully stretched and the laundry moved around I may try a short run



2007-10-22 11:20 AM
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MrsUSMC - 2007-10-22 12:07 PM It's bad enough here that I can't get out to walk either. They're saying not to expect the winds to die down or the fires to be anywhere near under control until Wednesday, earliest. Sort of wish I still had a treadmill at my house! LOL

 

Oh, dang, that sucks! Do you have access to a gym?

2007-10-22 11:20 AM
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Well, Cat will have to rule officially, but it does seem rather unfair to penalize you/the team because it's unhealthy for you to run due to the fires.  Take care of yourself, friends, and family; that's the most important thing.
2007-10-22 11:37 AM
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I do have a gym nearby, but know nothing about it. I'll have to see what I can find out. We had a treadmill in the garage up until 2 weeks ago, but DH moved it into a storage facility since I was running outside and we needed the room to set up an extra bike! LOL Always something, isn't it! LOL I really have been expecting this to happen, since it seems to be a "halloween" thing

As expected, I've been here for 1 hour, and am now being told to go home. Figures. Boss said he didn't even turn on his TV since last night (of course he's at home IMing me) and had no idea there were not 8 fires instead of 3. The lights here keep browning out. I imagine there's some type of power pull going on because of downed transformers, lines, etc. Anyway, I'm off to catch the train and will get back online once I'm home.

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2007-10-22 11:42 AM
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MrsUSMC - 2007-10-22 12:37 PM I do have a gym nearby, but know nothing about it. I'll have to see what I can find out. We had a treadmill in the garage up until 2 weeks ago, but DH moved it into a storage facility since I was running outside and we needed the room to set up an extra bike! LOL Always something, isn't it! LOL I really have been expecting this to happen, since it seems to be a "halloween" thing As expected, I've been here for 1 hour, and am now being told to go home. Figures. Boss said he didn't even turn on his TV since last night (of course he's at home IMing me) and had no idea there were not 8 fires instead of 3. The lights here keep browning out. I imagine there's some type of power pull going on because of downed transformers, lines, etc. Anyway, I'm off to catch the train and will get back online once I'm home.

 

My mom used to "mall-walk" in the winter -and yes, that means exactly that - walking around the mall. Usually done at night or when it first opens as there aren't that many people around. Might be an option. I see ladies mall-walking here sometimes. Might be another option. You probably couldn't get the actual mileage, but you could estimate based on time. That is, if the malls near you are even open...  

2007-10-22 11:42 AM
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Yanti,

What's the name of the Jeff Gallaway book you've mentioned?  I'm thinking I need to learn more about building for distances cause I want to do a half mary this spring and the Richmond mary next fall (after the HIM I want to do in early Sept)

I may need to speak to the ol' podiatrist about this flipping sesmoid again...it's sore.  First I'll check the condition of the gel insert, if it's worn I'll try replacing it first.  Last time we dealt with that he injected the foot with steroids and that hurt like b**ch!  Had a hard time even WALKING on it at work!

Chrissy,

Do you find the Triathalon Training bible a valuable reference?  I've got another Joe Friel book and it was good, but doesn't really include plans for longer races--just sprints.

Terri,

BE CAREFUL, your health comes before any other concern related to this challenge!



2007-10-22 11:48 AM
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zipp1 - 2007-10-22 12:42 PM

Chrissy,

Do you find the Triathalon Training bible a valuable reference?  I've got another Joe Friel book and it was good, but doesn't really include plans for longer races--just sprints.

I like it because it gives you a way to organize your entire year, as well as weeks. It doesn't give one cut-and-dry plan for a certain distance - talks about all of them a little bit. It also has an appendix in the back of sample work-outs for swim/bike/run and some bricks, which could certainly be modified for distance and time. So you can put together a training plan based on your own abilities and needs. I would say if you can snag a free copy or borrow one, flip through it and check it out. The biggest thing for me was figuring out the whole "periodization" thing - that might be common sense for those who have competed in swimming, cycling or running before, but I didn't come from a competitive sports background at all.

2007-10-22 11:51 AM
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Judi--the one I train with is called Marathon, but go with his Half Marathon first, if that's what you're going to do.

Sorry your footie is sore!

BTW Triathlete's Training Bible is essential reading (more like work-booking), I think, for anyone seriously training for a longer-distance triathlon. It will also appeal to your scientific instincts and facility with numbers.

Terri--all of us are extremely proud of your efforts in this challenge. Of course, if there's any creative way possible to continue, do it (including the walking-in-place-in-front-of-TV ... not my favorite, but ... Cat's very flexible about goals in the light of injuries and emergencies). Not because of the challenge, but because of your spirit and that you've just gotten going again, and deserve to continue.

But whatever you can or can't do, know that you've done far more already than you were doing before. For that, I commend you!

zipp1 - 2007-10-22 11:42 AM

Yanti,

What's the name of the Jeff Gallaway book you've mentioned?  I'm thinking I need to learn more about building for distances cause I want to do a half mary this spring and the Richmond mary next fall (after the HIM I want to do in early Sept)

I may need to speak to the ol' podiatrist about this flipping sesmoid again...it's sore.  First I'll check the condition of the gel insert, if it's worn I'll try replacing it first.  Last time we dealt with that he injected the foot with steroids and that hurt like b**ch!  Had a hard time even WALKING on it at work!

Chrissy,

Do you find the Triathalon Training bible a valuable reference?  I've got another Joe Friel book and it was good, but doesn't really include plans for longer races--just sprints.

Terri,

BE CAREFUL, your health comes before any other concern related to this challenge!

2007-10-22 11:52 AM
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wurkit_gurl - 2007-10-22 11:48 AM
zipp1 - 2007-10-22 12:42 PM

Chrissy,

Do you find the Triathalon Training bible a valuable reference?  I've got another Joe Friel book and it was good, but doesn't really include plans for longer races--just sprints.

I like it because it gives you a way to organize your entire year, as well as weeks. It doesn't give one cut-and-dry plan for a certain distance - talks about all of them a little bit. It also has an appendix in the back of sample work-outs for swim/bike/run and some bricks, which could certainly be modified for distance and time. So you can put together a training plan based on your own abilities and needs. I would say if you can snag a free copy or borrow one, flip through it and check it out. The biggest thing for me was figuring out the whole "periodization" thing - that might be common sense for those who have competed in swimming, cycling or running before, but I didn't come from a competitive sports background at all.

Yeah, I know NOTHING about periodization as well...trying to understand it and either I'm making it too complex or it really is that complex and I'm not that dumb, can't figure out which it is.  There's a "Books a MIllion" not too far from here, may be worth riding over to check it out

2007-10-22 12:16 PM
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trying to understand it and either I'm making it too complex or it really is that complex and I'm not that dumb, can't figure out which it is. There's a "Books a MIllion" not too far from here, may be worth riding over to check it out

Actually, it's not that complex AND you're not that dumb (penalty points for smack talking yourself, silly) -- it's just not explained very well, despite the hundreds of efforts people put into it.  The bottom line is that periodization focuses on how best to prepare your body to peak when you want it to.  It involves "periods" or phases of base training, building, tapering, peaking, and recovering so that you are in the best shape possible for your A race(s).  Each phase has a specific physical function (e.g., aerobic threshold, speed, recovery, etc.) and is based on your own calendar of races.  So depending on when your A race is, your "base" phase may coincide with my "recovery" phase, for example.  It also means sometimes you will feel as if you're not training "hard," even though you are -- it's just a different WAY of training, instead of just ridemore/runmore/swimmore that self-coached newbie athletes tend to prefer (no offense to those non-newbies who also prefer that method).

Friel's book is really the Bible on these matters, but I also found it dense and boring and in some places annoying, probably b/c I am lucky enough to belong to a tri club where the coaching staff (for free) simply does the planning for us with a series of clinics, etc.   I am happy to advise if you want more info.

2007-10-22 12:34 PM
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zipp1 - 2007-10-22 11:52 AM
wurkit_gurl - 2007-10-22 11:48 AM
zipp1 - 2007-10-22 12:42 PM

Chrissy,

Do you find the Triathalon Training bible a valuable reference?  I've got another Joe Friel book and it was good, but doesn't really include plans for longer races--just sprints.

I like it because it gives you a way to organize your entire year, as well as weeks. It doesn't give one cut-and-dry plan for a certain distance - talks about all of them a little bit. It also has an appendix in the back of sample work-outs for swim/bike/run and some bricks, which could certainly be modified for distance and time. So you can put together a training plan based on your own abilities and needs. I would say if you can snag a free copy or borrow one, flip through it and check it out. The biggest thing for me was figuring out the whole "periodization" thing - that might be common sense for those who have competed in swimming, cycling or running before, but I didn't come from a competitive sports background at all.

Yeah, I know NOTHING about periodization as well...trying to understand it and either I'm making it too complex or it really is that complex and I'm not that dumb, can't figure out which it is.  There's a "Books a MIllion" not too far from here, may be worth riding over to check it out

I really enjoyed and got a lot out of "Triathlons for Women" by Sally Edwards adn Karen Smyers.  It includes good info on training plans, equipment, and nutrition.

It was an easy read, really down to earth and included some really nice stories and examples.

I thought the book did a good job of breaking it down to the basics

Also, if you get a chance to attend a clinic and learn directly from coaches and experts, that is invaluable.  I did one in Jan and really learned a lot.  Unfortunately it wasn't free, but I've since joined a tri club that offers the clinics for free to members

 



2007-10-22 2:12 PM
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antti asu - 2007-10-21 11:30 PM

good job everybody! i'm back on track too, now.

i have a guestion for you (us) runners. i have been jogging/running now for couple of months, up to 8-10km legs, slowlyish. there would be half mary in january here in bahrain. is that reasonable goal? i could cut off from other tri sports during winter and consentrate on running. what do you think?

and gail. 60miles. wow! you are my hero!



Sounds totally doable
This method worked for me : I found it in Running 101 book.
Do one longer run a week (with a rest day before and after) and add 1 mile per week (no more) until you are up to 10 miles or 16 km .
Every 3rd week cut back the long run to 10 km.
Then do a 13 miler 2-3 weeks before the race . Use the Half mary race course if you can . Go real easy.
Scale back to 10 km one week before . And voila . You are ready for the challenge.

2007-10-22 2:59 PM
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Chrissy,

Sorry for not checking in earlier. I didn't get in any mileage yesterday, so my log is good as it stands. I was just so busy this weekend that I didn't get in any running.
2007-10-22 3:17 PM
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Gail, Thanks for the input.  Yes, I would LOVE more accurate info b/c I am the true self coached newbie who does the more, more, more method--with the exception of swimming and my coach teaches us like a masters swim class but does recognize one of my swim partners taper time (he's getting ready for IMFL).

I stopped at BAM and found a few books--not the titles we mentioned though b/c they didn't have those in stock and I didn't feel like special ordering anything.  Got Marathon From Beginner to Finisher (Paul Van Den Bosch) which includes both half mary and full mary 12 week plans.  Triathlete magazine's essential week by week training guide (Matt Fitzgerald) which has detailed plans for all levels of tri, and Tripower (Paul Frediani, William Smith) for tri specific strength/core training.  I am not going to waste my time at the gym doing sets that won't help me in the goal of getting better as a triathlete any more.(plus I can do a lot of these from home with the balance ball, hand weights, and step I already have)

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2007-10-22 3:33 PM
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BunnyB - 2007-10-22 3:59 PM Chrissy, Sorry for not checking in earlier. I didn't get in any mileage yesterday, so my log is good as it stands. I was just so busy this weekend that I didn't get in any running.

 

Oh, no worries at all, and I like I said - you have 9 days to run 2 more miles. Something tells me you'll finish in time Just wanted to make sure I didn't miss any of your miles this week.



2007-10-22 3:48 PM
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Beth,

I've seen the book you mentioned listed elsewhere as a "must read", have to keep my eyes open for it.  I think Sally Edwards also has a book on Endurance Sports Nutrition that I would like--course I've looked into some of the stuff on Nancy Clark's website but I can't cough up that kind of money (though I could get some continuing ed. credits for work by doing her stuff)

No wonder I haven't made any progress on studying for the darn CEN exam, spending all my time and energy studying tri related stuff...



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2007-10-22 9:15 PM
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We are a quiet bunch today, folks. I hope that means you're all out running! I have runs planned for Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, so far. We'll see how much mileage I can rack up then and that will determine what I do Monday through Wednesday of next week!
2007-10-22 9:29 PM
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zipp1 - 2007-10-22 9:10 AM

I rode the frustration away with my longest SOLO ride 25 miles (1hr 50 min)...once I get fully stretched and the laundry moved around I may try a short run

 

How'd you like it?  I ride solo for almost every ride, incl. a 90+miler when I was training for the SanFrantoLA ride a few years ago.  I am getting kind of lonely these days, though! 

2007-10-22 9:45 PM
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gailg - 2007-10-22 9:29 PM
zipp1 - 2007-10-22 9:10 AM

I rode the frustration away with my longest SOLO ride 25 miles (1hr 50 min)...once I get fully stretched and the laundry moved around I may try a short run

 

How'd you like it?  I ride solo for almost every ride, incl. a 90+miler when I was training for the SanFrantoLA ride a few years ago.  I am getting kind of lonely these days, though! 

I ride solo most of the time too - sometimes I love it, sometimes I feel lonely.  I usually ride around 30 miles

my thursday night taco rides have been a lot of fun and have provided good balance between riding alone and riding in a group

I've also met a few fellow BT'rs in NE and we have gone riding together which has been fun.

I planned on riding with the mulit-sport group i joined, but somehow it just never worked out with my schedule - maybe next year

Hope you had a great ride!

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2007-10-22 9:56 PM
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spokes - 2007-10-22 9:47 PM
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gailg - 2007-10-22 9:29 PM
zipp1 - 2007-10-22 9:10 AM

I rode the frustration away with my longest SOLO ride 25 miles (1hr 50 min)...once I get fully stretched and the laundry moved around I may try a short run

 

How'd you like it? I ride solo for almost every ride, incl. a 90+miler when I was training for the SanFrantoLA ride a few years ago. I am getting kind of lonely these days, though!

I ride solo most of the time too - sometimes I love it, sometimes I feel lonely. I usually ride around 30 miles

my thursday night taco rides have been a lot of fun and have provided good balance between riding alone and riding in a group

I've also met a few fellow BT'rs in NE and we have gone riding together which has been fun.

I planned on riding with the mulit-sport group i joined, but somehow it just never worked out with my schedule - maybe next year

Hope you had a great ride!

We have a fantastic trail out here you can ride on... flat for most of it but there's a (short) 7 percent grade up near Folsom prison on the way to the lake... 

hmmmmm

once again, I find myself thinking about how lovely it would be to move to Cali

we have a trail here, but - well, ummm, i'm certain there is no comparison

2007-10-22 10:25 PM
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spokes - 2007-10-22 7:47 PM

We have a fantastic trail out here you can ride on... flat for most of it but there's a (short) 7 percent grade up near Folsom prison on the way to the lake...

Would I have to show up wearing just a transition towel?

 

2007-10-22 10:36 PM
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spokes - 2007-10-22 9:47 PM
lastcall2003 - 2007-10-22 7:45 PM
gailg - 2007-10-22 9:29 PM
zipp1 - 2007-10-22 9:10 AM

I rode the frustration away with my longest SOLO ride 25 miles (1hr 50 min)...once I get fully stretched and the laundry moved around I may try a short run

 

How'd you like it? I ride solo for almost every ride, incl. a 90+miler when I was training for the SanFrantoLA ride a few years ago. I am getting kind of lonely these days, though!

I ride solo most of the time too - sometimes I love it, sometimes I feel lonely. I usually ride around 30 miles

my thursday night taco rides have been a lot of fun and have provided good balance between riding alone and riding in a group

I've also met a few fellow BT'rs in NE and we have gone riding together which has been fun.

I planned on riding with the mulit-sport group i joined, but somehow it just never worked out with my schedule - maybe next year

Hope you had a great ride!

We have a fantastic trail out here you can ride on... flat for most of it but there's a (short) 7 percent grade up near Folsom prison on the way to the lake... 

Folsom Prison Blues

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