Ironman Florida : Official Thread (Page 38)

Just popping in to introduce myself.  I'm on the books for IMFL.  First IM.  Have my first HIM at the end of July (Steelhead).  I'm new to tri's this year but have been doing marathons for awhile and biking as well (touring, not racing).  Looking forward to a great event!

Nice work! cutting back on the swimming a bit ... increasing the bike. Hope the knee is feeling better!

Hi all! I just found this article and found it interesting. Thought you'd want to read it....

http://news.yahoo.com/s/csm/20100701/ts_csm/311973

That Yahoo article doesn't make me feel any better about the race. If the dissolved oil is making people sick then it might not matter if any visible oil makes it to PCB.

On a more positive note I thought it would be cool to compare my totals for this year to last year since we're halfway through as of today.

2010 totals
Bike:	85h 16m 23s  - 1555.88 Mi
Run:	31h 59m 41s  - 236.12 Mi
Swim:	24h 46m 45s  - 68587.23 Yd
Racquetball:	3h 00m

2009 totals
Bike:	83h 05m 21s  - 1500.95 Mi
Run:	56h 00m 13s  - 386.32 Mi
Swim:	32h 28m 32s  - 87450 Yd

The article didn't make me feel much better either.  I'm hoping they will announce a new swim venue and we can all go on as planned, but I guess we'll see.

On a funny note dealing with this:  My 11 year old son obvious watches too much TV.  He asked why a huge Brita Filter couldn't be used to clean the water since they claim they have the cleanest drinking water.  If only it was that easy.

Hope everyone has a happy 4th of July. 

Kathy, I'm pretty much in agreement with you. I don't need to do an IM badly enough to risk health issues later on in life due to the massive amounts of chemicals their dumping into the gulf. If they don't move the swim I'm going to start having serious concerns about this. I just hope they let us know with ample time for backup plans.

Welcome t-diddy!  How's the training going?

To the group:  I know it's still a long way off, but I spoke to a friend in Panama City today and he said the beaches are clear as of now and look good. People are swimming in the ocean.  They are being told that the current may deliver the oil to areas beyond both PC and Destin.  Fingers crossed! 

Some friends of mine went to the beach just east of Destin...they were able to swim but there WERE small tarballs washing up near them....

I also don't find the article reassuring.  But the fact that its still a few months away calms my nerves a bit.  Being as this is my first IM Im determined to do this.  I propose as a back-up back-up back-up plan that we (BT group) plan our own race if this one doesn't happen.  Even if I have to swim 2.4miles in a hotel pool I'll do it!  The whole family is coming down and have their houses and flights booked already.  No pressure right? 

Oh and here are my measley June numbers.  Big focus on the bike coming up in July.   As you can see I obviously wasn't training for much longer than an oly in 2009. 

June's totals:
Bike:	16h 58m 08s  - 267.6 Mi
Run:	10h 32m 46s  - 80.09 Mi
Swim:	9h 10m 44s  - 22300 Yd

2010 totals
Bike:	100h 21m 13s  - 901.23 Mi
Run:	76h 13m 57s  - 553.02 Mi
Swim:	32h 35m 44s  - 85300 Yd
Strength:	1h 30m
Stretching:	1h 00m

2009 totals
Bike:	42h 01m 16s  - 555.3 Mi
Run:	63h 49m 14s  - 514.53 Mi
Swim:	40h 07m 42s  - 89044.27 Yd
Strength:	65h 55m
Elliptical Training:	55m
Spinning Class:	2h 15m
Squash:	30m
Stairmaster:	30m
Yoga:	2h 30m

Haven't been here in a while! 

As far as the oil spill stuff....  One thing I know I can control is my training.  I cannot control the oil, the tarballs, the chemicals nor what they decide to do about it.  I will cross that bridge when I get to it, I guess!  

does anyone use or has anyone used speedfill hydration system? whats your impression? I'm using 3 water botters (2 behind the seat one on the frame) plus an aero bottle- got bottles all over the bike!

you are absolutely right! I have to agree - I'll deal with it

Haven't used speedfill - I have a profile design aero bar mounted bottle, plus a bottle on my frame and 2 behind the seat.  I like the profile design one - easy to fill on the fly.

I have to ask...

Why so many bottles?  That's fine for training but severe overkill for a race.  I run one bottle on the frame and one torpedo style between the aero bars.  Put nutrition in one of the bottles and water in the other.  There are bottle exchanges every 10-15 miles on any 70.3 or 140.6 race course where you can get more water.  It's not like you're going to drink 24 ounces out of water every 10 miles.  Keep it simple.

I train and race differently. When I train can't get bottle exchange every 10 miles so I have aerobottle, one frame cage and two behind my saddle and depending on how long I'm riding bring 2-4 bottles.

For race I'll use aerobottle and frame bottle may drop behind saddle holder but depends on my final nutrition as I do home made maltodextrin mix so no picking that up at aid stations.

I talked to someone at the HIM I volunteered at instead of raced and he had one of those speedfill bottles on his frame. He loves it but said it took some adjusting to the added weight when he would start out and it was full.

I did pick up some Power Bar Endurance from REI for $8/ for a canister for 52 servings. It is almost exact nutritional content as the new Power Bar Ironman drink they are selling on line now only in liquid form. I can try it less expensively to see if I like it. 

Thank you for taking the time to respond - I use carbo-pro 1200 for my nutrition / hydration. mix it with water to dilute or thin it out. for 140.6 i usually go thru 2.5 - 20 oz bottles . (160ml of carbo-pro per 20 oz h2o) dumping  it into aero bottle as i ride     no other nutrition no gu's or power bars etc ....  but you did  make me think ... perhaps one bottle of undiluted carbo-pro grabbing h2o at aid station ....  then its just one bottle and aero bottle - you are  right i need to keep it simple ... this is complicated

I totally agree on the keep it simple...I have 2 3-hour bottles of Infinit, and aero bottle of water an extra bottle of water "just in case".  I don't like to risk dropping a bottle on the course or in the exchange - if I miss grabbing one, I don't want to go without and surely don't want to go back for one.  I sweat like a pig...need lots of liquids

Thank you for responding Kathy - I use carbo-pro 1200 for my nutrition , so I have same issue as you at races ...At 140.6  I usually go thru 2.5 bottles of nutrition/ hydration (app. 160ml of carbo pro per 20 oz ) Behind the seat I got two 20 oz bottles(plus the weight of the xlab) thats at least the 40 oz in the speed fill....  wouldn't need the aerobottle ... so I'll only be down 10oz... but I can always use special needs bag... or not if I choose ...

Edited by dkrrt 2010-07-03 8:02 PM

MIMIR 98- Thanx for the response So You're riding with ...  2 bottles of Infinit an aero bottle and a water bottle? soooo thats 4 containers? correct?

Yup.  2 nutrition, 2 water. 

Sooooo..... Mimir98, Kathy and myself all carry 4 water bottles on our bikes ... .how bout the rest of you... how many water bottles ? Is 4 water bottles "overkill" since you can pick up water or Gatorade  at aid stations ? But wadda do if ya drink your nutrition ?


Edited by dkrrt 2010-07-03 11:43 PM

I race with one cage bottle on the frame and one aero bottle.

I did IMAZ two years ago with a Neverreach instead of a traditional aerobottle.  I really liked it for long rides because it holds a lot more water and sometimes I ride in the middle of nowhere....even wear a camelbak to train.

I'm not sure what I'll do this round....but I know it will either be the Neverreach or an aero bottle.  I already have enough extra weight around my middle...I don't need to bring any more out on the course!  So, I am solid two bottler....always have been, always will be!  Now, IF my bike had a second bottle holder on the frame I would consider having my second nutrition bottle on there.  Right now that has to reside in special needs because I just don't have another holder on the frame and I hate behind the seat holders.  I'm toying with the idea of going more "solid" this year in order to be able to skip the second bottle in special needs.

I realize weight is more of a concern when you are climbing...and IMFL is a flat course.  But still, I don't see a need to carry that many water bottles out on the bike.  It isn't going to be that hot.  Aid stations every 10 miles should be plenty if you never let your aero bottle get TOO empty.  I would refill mine with a partial bottle picked up from an aid station as soon as the aero bottle got half full.  That way if I missed the bottle exchange I still had enough water to get me to the next aid station if necessary.