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2012-01-09 5:21 PM
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Update....

- Mitch 9 days    11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days      10:37'08"
- Joe P 9 days     9:50'03" 
- Rachel 9 days    9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days       6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days     18:45:46" 
- Chris 8 days    12:19:29" 
- Jackie 8 days   10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days     9:45'48"
- Scott 8 days     9:38'39"
- Ernesto 8 days   9:13'03"
-  Elizbth 8 days  9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days     8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days     7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days     6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days      4:59'43"  
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- Charltt 7 days   6:40'00" 
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- Matthew 5 days   5:30'00" 
- Alfredo 5 days   2:59'17" 
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- Bruce 4 days     4:30'07" 
- Todd TX 4 Days   3:51'00" 
- William 4 days   3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days      2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days    2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days    1:52'00"



2012-01-09 5:31 PM
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sirgab - 2012-01-09 5:17 PM
 And talking about family time challenge, I wanted to share the news that my wife Estefania and I recently learned that we are blessed to be expecting our third child for July!  We have two lovely daughters, so it will be great to see if we finally get a boy, or if the girl domination will continue at home!  

   

 



Congrats Gabe! Better watch it. You'll end up like Ernesto and me. And my first three are girls. Boy finally came on the fourth. (My brother, who has five girls asked "Whose the father?") Had to have another just to make it look like we weren't just going until we had a boy (which we weren't).
2012-01-09 5:35 PM
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sirgab - 2012-01-09 5:17 PM

ernestov - 2012-01-09 2:18 PM Anybody (besides Mitch) seeing very good results from these days of training? Wink

I'm also seeing good results from these days of training!  For example, yesterday's bike ride was longer than I had anticipated (4:00) and with a lot more climbing (5K+ ft plus the challenge with my gears).  However, I was able to push myself comfortably through most of the ride and also feel like I'm recovering well from such efforts.   Today I was able to run early in the morning without being sore or totally exhausted!

I also second Joyce, Samy, Jen, Mitch's and the others' comments about the huge value that it is having the encouragement and support from this great group!  I could not think what it would be like to have to push myself through the loads of training I have to go through for my IM, without being able to draw on your support! (sometimes it's overwhelming just to look at the IM plan) So thank you all for that (and to Jackie for proposing the challenge for January, maybe we could extend it through the end of April, just in time for my tapper for IM Wink)

Finally, I totally agree with Mitch's previous comment about the importance of not letting our passion for triathlon/sports, affect the quality time we should devote to our family life/loved ones, and kuddos for your decision to skip the workout and have lunch with your wife on that particular day!  And talking about family time challenge, I wanted to share the news that my wife Estefania and I recently learned that we are blessed to be expecting our third child for July!  We have two lovely daughters, so it will be great to see if we finally get a boy, or if the girl domination will continue at home!  

   

 



Congratulations to You and your family Gabriel!!
2012-01-09 7:11 PM
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sirgab - 2012-01-09 5:17 PM

ernestov - 2012-01-09 2:18 PM Anybody (besides Mitch) seeing very good results from these days of training? Wink

I'm also seeing good results from these days of training!  For example, yesterday's bike ride was longer than I had anticipated (4:00) and with a lot more climbing (5K+ ft plus the challenge with my gears).  However, I was able to push myself comfortably through most of the ride and also feel like I'm recovering well from such efforts.   Today I was able to run early in the morning without being sore or totally exhausted!

I also second Joyce, Samy, Jen, Mitch's and the others' comments about the huge value that it is having the encouragement and support from this great group!  I could not think what it would be like to have to push myself through the loads of training I have to go through for my IM, without being able to draw on your support! (sometimes it's overwhelming just to look at the IM plan) So thank you all for that (and to Jackie for proposing the challenge for January, maybe we could extend it through the end of April, just in time for my tapper for IM Wink)

Finally, I totally agree with Mitch's previous comment about the importance of not letting our passion for triathlon/sports, affect the quality time we should devote to our family life/loved ones, and kuddos for your decision to skip the workout and have lunch with your wife on that particular day!  And talking about family time challenge, I wanted to share the news that my wife Estefania and I recently learned that we are blessed to be expecting our third child for July!  We have two lovely daughters, so it will be great to see if we finally get a boy, or if the girl domination will continue at home!  

   

 

Gabe,

Felicidades !!!   I have 3 dougthers and 1 grand child (girl), so its girl domination for me, the love is great and the attention its fantastic !!!  Congrats !! 

2012-01-09 7:18 PM
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I did the "de rigueur" 30 minutes on the Compudrainer, intervals. Some tough stuff but fun. Cool

- Mitch 9 days    11:40'00"

- Jen 9 days      10:37'08"
- Joe P 9 days     9:50'03"

- Ernesto 9 days   9:43'27" 
- Rachel 9 days    9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days       6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days     18:45:46" 
- Chris 8 days    12:19:29" 
- Jackie 8 days   10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days     9:45'48"
- Scott 8 days     9:38'39"
- Elizabeth 8 days  9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days     8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days     7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days     6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days      4:59'43"  
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- Charlotte 7 days   6:40'00" 
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- Matthew 5 days   5:30'00" 
- Alfredo 5 days   2:59'17" 
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- Bruce 4 days     4:30'07" 
- Todd TX 4 Days   3:51'00" 
- William 4 days   3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days      2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days    2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days    1:52'00"



Edited by ernestov 2012-01-09 7:19 PM
2012-01-09 7:21 PM
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When Jorge uses the percentages of HR in his cycling plan, he is using the average HR of the last 20 minutes of the 30 minute test. He isn't using the zones that BT calculates, he is using whatever percentage the workout is times the 144 that u tested at, which it sounds like the whole 60 minutes, which isn't what he uses in his plan.


2012-01-09 7:33 PM
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monicamm68 - 2012-01-09 8:21 PM When Jorge uses the percentages of HR in his cycling plan, he is using the average HR of the last 20 minutes of the 30 minute test. He isn't using the zones that BT calculates, he is using whatever percentage the workout is times the 144 that u tested at, which it sounds like the whole 60 minutes, which isn't what he uses in his plan.

I did follow his test which calls for metering my hear rate for the 30 minute test.  First 10 minutes was warm up 30 intense minutes then cool down.

The rate came out to 144.  So if he asks in a training session to go at 68%-73% do I take 68% of 144?

2012-01-09 7:37 PM
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A little bit of everything today.  Pool sessions will be short for now as I'm in "pool school" and need to minimize fatige as I learn a proper stroke.  But starting to add a little bike back in.

- Mitch 9 days    11:40'00"

- Carol 9 days   11:34'42"

- Jen 9 days      10:37'08"
- Joe P 9 days     9:50'03"

- Ernesto 9 days   9:43'27" 
- Rachel 9 days    9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days       6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days     18:45:46" 
- Chris 8 days    12:19:29" 
- Jackie 8 days   10:07'05"
- Scott 8 days     9:38'39"
- Elizabeth 8 days  9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days     8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days     7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days     6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days      4:59'43"  
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- Charlotte 7 days   6:40'00" 
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- Matthew 5 days   5:30'00" 
- Alfredo 5 days   2:59'17" 
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- Bruce 4 days     4:30'07" 
- Todd TX 4 Days   3:51'00" 
- William 4 days   3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days      2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days    2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days    1:52'00"

 

2012-01-09 7:37 PM
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So here is a question, I did a spin class today, first one in a long time. Said we did 19 miles. So do I consider that a ride or does that not count, do I need to be on a trainer?
2012-01-09 7:39 PM
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Super easy recovery indoor trainer ride for me tonight.  I needed something easy to recover from the weekend and rest up for the rest of the week. 10.58 miles in 44:15.

- Mitch 9 days    11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days      10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days     10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days     9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days   9:43'27" 
- Rachel 9 days    9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days       6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days     18:45:46" 
- Chris 8 days    12:19:29" 
- Jackie 8 days   10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days     9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days  9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days     8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days     7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days     6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days      4:59'43"  
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- Charlotte 7 days   6:40'00" 
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- Matthew 5 days   5:30'00" 
- Alfredo 5 days   2:59'17" 
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- Bruce 4 days     4:30'07" 
- Todd TX 4 Days   3:51'00" 
- William 4 days   3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days      2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days    2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days    1:52'00"

2012-01-09 7:40 PM
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Gabriel! Congrats! My sons are 1 and 3, so maybe a matchmaking event taking place Smile

Although no training for me today, not a total waste. Just put the kids to bed, and started the 100 push up challenge. 49 total push ups today. And off to clean my bike now, so at least I feel productive.

 



2012-01-09 7:40 PM
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bfwhitt - 2012-01-09 8:37 PM So here is a question, I did a spin class today, first one in a long time. Said we did 19 miles. So do I consider that a ride or does that not count, do I need to be on a trainer?

That counts... Any cycle, run, or swim activity.Cool

2012-01-09 7:52 PM
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8 mile and change Monday run. Was going to try to jump on the trainer tonight as well, but too tired/lazy. 1:14:55

- Chris 9 days 13:34:24
- Mitch 9 days 11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days 10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days 10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days 9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days 9:43'27"
- Rachel 9 days 9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days 6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days 18:45:46"
- Jackie 8 days 10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days 9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days 9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days 8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days 7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days 6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days 4:59'43"
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- Charlotte 7 days 6:40'00"
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- Matthew 5 days 5:30'00"
- Alfredo 5 days 2:59'17"
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- Bruce 4 days 4:30'07"
- Todd TX 4 Days 3:51'00"
- William 4 days 3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days 2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days 2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days 1:52'00"
2012-01-09 7:59 PM
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Yes, take the percentage of the average of the 30' test for Jorge's workouts.

U can plug that average into your zones if needed so u can get an idea as to how hard you are supposed to work.

2012-01-09 8:10 PM
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Swim felt great today, after 3 months off from swimming I have ramped up a lot faster then I thought I would. Also did a spin class for the first time in about a year. What a great workout, the music was kind of cheesy but it was good motiavtion to be with a group and get pushed a little.

- Chris 9 days 13:34:24
- Mitch 9 days 11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days 10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days 10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days 9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days 9:43'27"
- Rachel 9 days 9:27'17"
- Jim 9 days 6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days 18:45:46"
- Jackie 8 days 10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days 9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days 9:00'00"
- Barry 8 days 8:19'25"
- Joe D 8 days 7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days 6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days 4:59'43"
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- Charlotte 7 days 6:40'00"
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- Bruce 5 days 6:06 07"

- Matthew 5 days 5:30'00"
- Alfredo 5 days 2:59'17"

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- Todd TX 4 Days 3:51'00"
- William 4 days 3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days 2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days 2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days 1:52'00"

2012-01-09 8:14 PM
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monicamm68 - 2012-01-09 8:59 PM

Yes, take the percentage of the average of the 30' test for Jorge's workouts.

U can plug that average into your zones if needed so u can get an idea as to how hard you are supposed to work.

Great thank you!


2012-01-09 8:22 PM
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.......And talking about family time challenge, I wanted to share the news that my wife Estefania and I recently learned that we are blessed to be expecting our third child for July!  We have two lovely daughters, so it will be great to see if we finally get a boy, or if the girl domination will continue at home!  

   

 Fantastic news, Gabriel!  Congratulations to you, your wife and family!!!!

2012-01-09 8:24 PM
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Congrats Gabe!

 

2012-01-09 8:25 PM
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Amazingly, I have a loss to update...whoohoo!

Competitor

Current weight% change
Mitch163.2 -0.73%
Chris165.6-3.14%
Jen115.6-2.20%
Jim172 -2.27%
Ernesto180-2.4% 
Rachel79.5kg -2.09%
ToddTx213 -0.93%
Todd212-.99%
Gabe160.2-2.44%
Joyce128-1.69%
Charlotte 143.0 +2.0%
Barry213.5-1.00
2012-01-09 8:25 PM
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Legs a little fatigued but the heart rate was significantly lower at a faster pace today. Hope this is the beginning of a trend.

- Chris 9 days 13:34:24
- Mitch 9 days 11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days 10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days 10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days 9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days 9:43'27"
- Rachel 9 days 9:27'17"
- Barry 9 days 9:10'04"
- Jim 9 days 6:57'53"
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- Gabe 8 days 18:45:46"
- Jackie 8 days 10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days 9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days 9:00'00"
- Joe D 8 days 7:21'52"
- Joyce 8 days 6:47:17"
- Samy 8 days 4:59'43"
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- Charlotte 7 days 6:40'00"
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- Bruce 5 days 6:06 07"
- Matthew 5 days 5:30'00"
- Alfredo 5 days 2:59'17"
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- Todd TX 4 Days 3:51'00"
- William 4 days 3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days 2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days 2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days 1:52'00"
2012-01-09 8:31 PM
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One more update for me, took an hour spin class today and boot camp tonight...at least I can count the spin class

- Chris 9 days 13:34:24
- Mitch 9 days 11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days 10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days 10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days 9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days 9:43'27"
- Rachel 9 days 9:27'17"

- Barry 9 days 9:10'04"

- Joyce 9 days 7:47:18"
- Jim 9 days 6:57'53"

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- Gabe 8 days 18:45:46"
- Jackie 8 days 10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days 9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days 9:00'00"
- Joe D 8 days 7:21'52"
- Samy 8 days 4:59'43"
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- Charlotte 7 days 6:40'00"
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- Bruce 5 days 6:06 07"

- Matthew 5 days 5:30'00"
- Alfredo 5 days 2:59'17"

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- Todd TX 4 Days 3:51'00"
- William 4 days 3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days 2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days 2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days 1:52'00"




2012-01-09 8:33 PM
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Have a somewhat unconventional training question.

Up to now, I have been walking a set time period after every mile. Started with 1:30 secs, and now down to 30 secs between miles. During this challenge, I tried (and succeded) running the whole 3 miles straight.

However, when I push myself, I can run at a faster pace when resting between miles, even taking into account the walking time. For example, compare my runs from Dec 29 vs Jan 7 (both runs where I decided to push myself). On Dec 29 (garmin data in the logs), 1 mile run, 30 sec walk - repeat 3 times: 3.09 miles at a pace of 9:23/mile. This pace includes three 30 sec. walks. On Jan 7, 3 miles straight at a pace of 9:31/mile. Also, on the run/walk, I finished "fresher".

So the way I see it, I can do 3 things:

1) Keep resting 30 secs between miles.

2) Eliminate the resting and just run straight.

3) Eliminate the resting on my short runs (3 miles for now), and keep them for the long runs (4 miles planning to go to 5 in the next couple of weeks)

I am planning ti do sprint distances for my first 2-3 races, with my first race Feb 26, and I guess my idea is to do whatever will lead me to have the faster time at the race.

PS: I am planning to buy the Maffetone book, but first wanted to make sure I had a decent base for training

2012-01-09 9:00 PM
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  dayGabe,,,,,  

That is fantastic news!  Congrats to you and your wife!!!!  

As for the effects of the training.  Hard to say right now.  I completed the last 9 days and still feel great.  Scott and I will do "mental toughness" on the trainer tomorrow.  I will try to get it completed before he gets home but that might be pushing it.  Since the pool is closed figured it a good time to get my hair done..  (LOL...  I have to remember, I'm not just an athlete, but an Officer's wife as well....)

2012-01-09 9:09 PM
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Adding in second workout, circuit followed by high resistance bike.

- Chris 9 days 13:34:24
- Mitch 9 days 11:40'00"
- Jen 9 days 10:37'08"
- Scott 9 days 10:22'54"
- Joe P 9 days 9:50'03"
- Ernesto 9 days 9:43'27"
- Rachel 9 days 9:27'17"

- Barry 9 days 9:10'04"

- Joyce 9 days 7:47:18"
- Jim 9 days 7:27'08"

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- Gabe 8 days 18:45:46"
- Jackie 8 days 10:07'05"
- Carol 8 days 9:45'48"
- Elizabeth 8 days 9:00'00"
- Joe D 8 days 7:21'52"
- Samy 8 days 4:59'43"
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- Charlotte 7 days 6:40'00"
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- Bruce 5 days 6:06 07"

- Matthew 5 days 5:30'00"
- Alfredo 5 days 2:59'17"

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- Todd TX 4 Days 3:51'00"
- William 4 days 3:12'02"
- Todd 4 days 2:21'30"
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- Mark H 3 days 2:00'11"
- Leslie 3 days 1:52'00"

2012-01-09 9:10 PM
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Samyg - 2012-01-09 8:33 PM

Have a somewhat unconventional training question.

Up to now, I have been walking a set time period after every mile. Started with 1:30 secs, and now down to 30 secs between miles. During this challenge, I tried (and succeded) running the whole 3 miles straight.

However, when I push myself, I can run at a faster pace when resting between miles, even taking into account the walking time. For example, compare my runs from Dec 29 vs Jan 7 (both runs where I decided to push myself). On Dec 29 (garmin data in the logs), 1 mile run, 30 sec walk - repeat 3 times: 3.09 miles at a pace of 9:23/mile. This pace includes three 30 sec. walks. On Jan 7, 3 miles straight at a pace of 9:31/mile. Also, on the run/walk, I finished "fresher".

So the way I see it, I can do 3 things:

1) Keep resting 30 secs between miles.

2) Eliminate the resting and just run straight.

3) Eliminate the resting on my short runs (3 miles for now), and keep them for the long runs (4 miles planning to go to 5 in the next couple of weeks)

I am planning ti do sprint distances for my first 2-3 races, with my first race Feb 26, and I guess my idea is to do whatever will lead me to have the faster time at the race.

PS: I am planning to buy the Maffetone book, but first wanted to make sure I had a decent base for training

Samy, from looking at your heart rate while you are running, I would say that you should slow down, and not walk at all. You're pegged to the top and that will not give you enough base. Also, February for a first race is too soon. Or maybe I'm thinking in Texas terms, where it is still cold for a race...

Buy Maffettone's book immediately, read it and you will learn good habits from the start.

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