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2012-08-31 2:09 PM
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Subject: RE: One reason to "not go off" on a driver.

Kido - 2012-08-31 9:56 AM The law is the law and it's in the books.  Justified.

Easy Cowboy, take them fingers away from those pearl handles.



2012-09-01 10:39 AM
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Subject: RE: One reason to "not go off" on a driver.
taylorz13 - 2012-08-30 11:22 AM
DanielG - 2012-08-30 11:00 AM
Kido - 2012-08-30 11:58 AM
guppie58 - 2012-08-30 8:54 AM

If on a sidewalk you follow the sign.  If on the road, you follow the signal.  

If driver is proved not at fault, she may be charged with carrying a weapon (if no permit).  If it's her fault, then her life is forever changed.  

Based on the brief story in the OP.  The driver is probably ok.  Cyclist was at fault then assaulted the driver.  It could be considered self defense in some cases...  Could be tough to prove that the driver felt their life was in dager though.

Not really. There are two "one hit to the head killed victim" stories in this week's papers alone and there's been a number of drivers (TX, FL) who have been either no billed or acquitted for shooting someone wailing away at them as they're seatbelted in the driver's seat.

In FLa, as everyone knows, we have the Stand Your Ground law; HOWEVER, you can only meet force with force and can only use DEADLY force if you are in imminent threat of your life.  You can't bring a gun to a fist fight etc.  Sounds like things escalated pretty quickly and i'm sure we only have part of the facts, but this is not a clean "self-defense" situation.

 

You are incorrect at least when it comes to Texas state law.  A head to the chest or head is considered deadly force and be can be met with the same.  The case law is well established.  Do the research.  Texas state law does not protect the stupid, steal my cool stuff at night, you are risking your life.  Again, read the statutes and recent cases. 

2012-09-01 10:51 AM
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Subject: RE: One reason to "not go off" on a driver.

If the driver truly was physically assaulted, and in the process of protecting himself, I have no problem with him shooting said attacker.  Lesson for everyone out there...don't hit people!   

2012-09-01 12:58 PM
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The point of the story is...

Don't attack a driver.  One person ended up a corpse and the other a killer.

It sucks for everyone.

2012-09-01 3:51 PM
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Subject: RE: One reason to "not go off" on a driver.
pga_mike - 2012-09-01 12:58 PM

The point of the story is...

Don't attack a driver.  One person ended up a corpse and the other a killer survivor.

It sucks for everyone.

 

Fixed it for you

2012-09-01 8:20 PM
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Subject: RE: One reason to "not go off" on a driver.
Puppetmaster - 2012-09-01 3:51 PM
pga_mike - 2012-09-01 12:58 PM

The point of the story is...

Don't attack a driver.  One person ended up a corpse and the other a killer survivor.

It sucks for everyone.

 

Fixed it for you

 

I know what you are saying, but the fact is that the driver killed a man.  Even cops and people that kill in their own defense are changed negatively after the fact.  Sometimes short term.  Sometimes long term.

If a person find pleasure or no remorse in killing (or hurting) someone, would fall within a behavior of psychopathy.



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