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2010-12-24 10:21 AM
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Yeah, thanks for the Keto info...so it's similar to what Atkins was, in principle? Not sure I could do that...I, too, tried once but failed miserably.


2010-12-24 11:32 AM
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abqtj - 2010-12-24 11:21 AM Yeah, thanks for the Keto info...so it's similar to what Atkins was, in principle? Not sure I could do that...I, too, tried once but failed miserably.


It depends on exactly what you follow -- there's been a movement towards "Paleo for Athletes" in which you eat whole proteins, vegetable, fruits and nuts except during a window of time starting 1 hour before your workout, going through you workout and during your post-workout recovery period. 

I've linked to the book below:

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Athletes-Nutritional-Performance/dp/1594860890/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293211877&sr=1-1

Its by Joel Friel who also wrote the Triathletes Training Bible.  If you're interested I have a copy of the book, PM me your address and I'll send it your way.

2010-12-24 12:39 PM
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I found once I got through the first 2 weeks and the refeed my carb cravings went away.  Here are a couple more links:

http://www.modernfitnessforum.com/diet-nutrition/118-ketogenic-diet-ckd.html

http://www.modernfitnessforum.com/diet-nutrition/1684-keto-diet-simplified-setup-beginners.html
2010-12-24 1:11 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2010-12-24 10:32 AM
abqtj - 2010-12-24 11:21 AM Yeah, thanks for the Keto info...so it's similar to what Atkins was, in principle? Not sure I could do that...I, too, tried once but failed miserably.


It depends on exactly what you follow -- there's been a movement towards "Paleo for Athletes" in which you eat whole proteins, vegetable, fruits and nuts except during a window of time starting 1 hour before your workout, going through you workout and during your post-workout recovery period. 

I've linked to the book below:

http://www.amazon.com/Paleo-Diet-Athletes-Nutritional-Performance/dp/1594860890/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293211877&sr=1-1

Its by Joel Friel who also wrote the Triathletes Training Bible.  If you're interested I have a copy of the book, PM me your address and I'll send it your way.



Thanks Kelly, I may take you up on that.

I need to find a diet based around what we serve at my restaurant (since it's free for me)  
2010-12-24 2:06 PM
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kaburns1214 - 2010-12-23 3:12 PM
jsklarz - 2010-12-23 2:32 PM

even though your mentor group is closed, I will harass you nonetheless! ha ha ha!

seriously- you folks have a great mentor. 



Jeff -- you're more than welcome to join us -- it may even be good for you.


Bob Stocks was my mentor a couple years ago.  the mentor groups are a great program.  I will definitely take you up on your offer to expand your group to include me!  Thank you.
2010-12-24 3:14 PM
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No soreness from just sitting on the saddle.  Maybe it is just getting used to being back on the bike again. Sitting on a trainer where your body doesn't move around doesn't help I guess.


2010-12-24 3:31 PM
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Some bike shops have seats to try out- a seat that fits can make all the difference in the world for that soreness. If you can take you bike in for a fitting, just the right adjustment can also help. Even if you used to like your seast, our bodies chnge with time and it might not be the right one for you now. I sure found that out.
2010-12-25 5:19 AM
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Kids aren't up yet, surprisingly.  Merry Xmas to everyone.

Had a great group Xmas Eve Mountain Bike ride yesterday morning. Just over two hours.  Just under an inch of snow still on the trails, made it intersting and fun. I usually try to ride some lay down trees, it's great practice for balance.  As I am riding across one yesterday, I slipped off due to snow, and landed on a branch sticking u,p right into the rib cage.  I am feeling that this morning.  Still had a blast though.

Have a great day with your families.
2010-12-25 6:05 AM
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Merry Christmas Everyone!

Hope everyone has a safe (no mountain bike slips) and happy day.

We're doing chocolate chip pancakes for breakfast, hopping on the trainer for a bit and then heading over to my parents for dinner -- exciting.
2010-12-25 9:04 AM
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Merry Christmas everyone!

When I go Keto I go the TKD route- so I take carbs in before and after training - also for longer rides / runs I take carbs during the ride/run.

Everyone have a great day!
2010-12-25 9:35 AM
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Merry Christmas Mentor People! Have a great day!

Don't know if I'm riding or running today...playing it by ear. 


2010-12-25 11:52 AM
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Merry Christmas! Hope everyone has a wonderful day. 
2010-12-25 12:11 PM
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Merry Christmas y'all.
2010-12-25 1:21 PM
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merry CHristmas to everyone. I hopped on my new Kurt Kinetic trainer today. Wow is is much harder than my old one. I thought I was in shape until I did some intervals on this-Whew. I will be in much better shape this spring if I keep this up
2010-12-25 1:54 PM
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Santa was good to me.  New Garmin 305.   I'm pumped!!!!
2010-12-25 2:29 PM
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rizer22 - 2010-12-25 1:54 PM Santa was good to me.  New Garmin 305.   I'm pumped!!!!


Got this and aerobars for the roadie.


2010-12-25 3:02 PM
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I have been toying with the idea of aero bars for my roadie. WHat did you get?  can you shift in the aero position or are they a clip on kind?
2010-12-26 8:56 AM
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2010-12-26 9:54 AM
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As Kel's resident bike mechanic, she asked me to pop in and offer some advice on bike-related matters. 

Bike Trainer:
With the Kurt Kinetic, you want to make sure you have full contact between the trainer and wheel.  Best way to validate you have appropriate contact is to hold the solid disk with one hand, grab the wheel in the other and try to spin the tire without moving the roller.  If it spins, you need more pressure.  The best setup is just enough pressure to keep constant contact between the tire and trainer and prevent the wheel from spinning.  That will keep the force curve accurate but minimize the friction to save your rear tire.  I use Michelin Krylion tires which have a smooth contact area and good durability.

Aerobars:
As Kel will say, when it comes to deciding on aerobars, the best option is to buy a tri bike.  Since that isn't always an option, clip-ons do provide a solid benefit on a roadie.  The benefit does not come in the form of increased aerodynamic efficiency, the benefit actually comes from comfort.  When a rider goes into aero bars on a road bike, their wind profile is roughly the same as if they were riding on the drops.  If you've ridden any distance on the drops, you know how hard it is to support your body weight for a long period of time and you eventually go back to riding on the hoods of your brakes.  The aerobars allow you to stay in that more aerodynamic profile much longer than if you were to ride without them.

Aerobars should be positioned so that you lay in them and your upper body is supported by your skeleton instead  muscles.   With your upper body stabilized and relaxed, you can generate the same amount power from your hips for a longer period of time resulting in greater overall speed.

If you get a set of aerobars, you should have the bike re-fit to take advantage of the new position.

(edit:  I used Profile Design's Carbon Stryke clip-ons before I got my tri bike and loved them.  I believe that's what I put on Erica's bike last year, too.)

Good luck and let me know if you have any other questions.  (and don't let Kel get too bossy with you




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2010-12-26 10:38 AM
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re:  Aerobars

So, I've just got a road bike and have no interest in getting a tri bike.  The big thing that keeps me from getting aerobars is the fact that the brakes are sooooo far away.  I also only do Oly distance or less.  I have no real interest in longer distances.  Where I typically ride, there are a lot of stop lights/signs, cross traffic and hills.

My big fear is being in aero and having to act fast (and failing).

Am I just being a luddite and missing out on some serious benefits? 
2010-12-26 11:10 AM
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bwingate - 2010-12-26 11:38 AM re:  Aerobars

So, I've just got a road bike and have no interest in getting a tri bike.  The big thing that keeps me from getting aerobars is the fact that the brakes are sooooo far away.  I also only do Oly distance or less.  I have no real interest in longer distances.  Where I typically ride, there are a lot of stop lights/signs, cross traffic and hills.

My big fear is being in aero and having to act fast (and failing).

Am I just being a luddite and missing out on some serious benefits? 


I know what you mean about the brakes being far away.  Even on a tri bike, you have to come out of the aero bars to grab the brakes.

I used aerobars for my first few Olympic races and it felt like they helped.  At the very least, they made it more comfortable to just lay down for a bit, take the pressure off my upper body and just power from the hips.  Although, that may have just been a placebo effect. 

Even if you don't use them consistently during your training, they would provide an additional benefit on race day because you normally have enough distance between riders to evade any issue plus most races have some level of traffic control.

In the end, it is a matter of personal preference.  If you can ride an Oly course in your drops, then the aerobars won't really buy you any additional speed.



2010-12-26 11:55 AM
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I really appreciate the info on both the Kurt Kinetic and the aero bars. I do have trouble riding long in the drops. It gives me something more to think about. I will be heading up north to SBR in Orem to look at clipless pedals and maybe also clip on aero bars as then they can refit me too. The pedals are a for sure as I can practice on the trainer all winter
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CT is getting 10-20 inches of snow.  I don't have an indoor trainer.  This is going to drive me nuts.  I can ride my mountain bike anywhere, but not in a foot of snow.  Looks like I'll be visiting P90 and Tony Horton today.
2010-12-26 1:56 PM
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rizer22 - 2010-12-26 2:39 PM CT is getting 10-20 inches of snow.  I don't have an indoor trainer.  This is going to drive me nuts.  I can ride my mountain bike anywhere, but not in a foot of snow.  Looks like I'll be visiting P90 and Tony Horton today.


My pool is closed so no afternoon swim.  I'm not a fan of the lots and lots of snow.
2010-12-26 2:29 PM
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Kelly - thanks for letting me play, here is my story:

NAME:  Jeff Sklarz (jsklarz)
 
STORY:
  Baseball, basketball, football in HS.  College football – defensive tackle.  Rugby in law school.  This was be my 4th year of tris.  Last year was a “recovery year” after herniating my L4-5 disc in 2009.   

FAMILY STATUS:
  Married 10 years this year.  I have 2 daughters (see my avatar)  age 7 and 2.5.

CURRENT TRAINING:  Using the BT “no fluff” plan as a transition into the season which will focus on olys and a HIM and marathon at the end.  Due to work and family I have about 8-10 hours/week max to train and am always time crunched.  So staying motivated for 5 AM trainer sessions, etc., particularly in the winter (brrrr) is a major hurdle for me.

GOALS: 
HM sub 1:45, Oly sub 2:35, finish HIM, mary sub 4:00. 

2010 RACES:
Mystic River sprint, Griskus Oly, Park City (oly), New Haven Road Race, Hartford Marathon, various and sundry 5ks.

2011 RACES:  a bunch, but the foci will be: a HM in the winter (either Hyannis and/or Savin Rock) Girskus Oly (a hilly monster), Park City (flat oly), FIRMan (HIM) and Hartford mary.  I’ll also do the New Haven Road Race, a couple sprints, DUs and whatever I happen across.

WEIGHTLOSS: Hey fat boy – stop eating the cookies already!  I lost 40 pounds 4 years ago and now hover around 225.  My goal is 210 for next season which would be a good race weight for me.  I generally eat pretty healthfully, just too much.

WHAT WILL MAKE ME A GOOD MENTEE:  I come to tris with a pretty good attitude.  I realize that I have a lot of limiters and attempt to not take myself too seriously as a “triathlete”.  However, I am very competitive and am always looking to improve myself in spite of my limitations. 

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