Jamie's HIM/IM Training Group-CLOSED (Page 4)

clewis38 - 2011-01-15 4:39 PM

When I ask the bike shop guys about carbon in a trainer, I get an answer similar to Jamie's.  It makes sense that when you ride a bike, whether on the road or in the trainer, it puts natural strains on the bike...but as long as you don't go nuts back and forth on the trainer, it shouldn't be much different than on the road.

I don't have a trainer, but when I get one, I'll use it for both my full carbon bikes.

JBougher - 2011-01-15 6:39 PM

Is your group still open?  Would love to join if possible.

ChicagoMan65 - 2011-01-15 11:26 PM

NAME: Mark

LOCATION: Chicago, north side

STORY: Was a sedentary drinker and smoker until 2002 when I quit drinking and started running.  Started some cycling and then swimming finally in about 2006.  Over the years have run a cople of marathons, several centuries and lots of 5 and 10ks.   Started doing tris in 2007, Olys at first and then a Half IM last summer.  Would like eventually to do full IM before I get too old.  Was never really an athlete of any sort--played baseball and golf in HS, then anything where beer was allowed or involved!  I am slow and getting old, but am still constantly surpised that I can move as far as I do sometimes.  Speed is definitely secondary to just getting out there!

FAMILY STATUS: Married with 2 kids-boy freshman in HS, girl 7th grade

CURRENT TRAINING: Starting to train in earnest for Wisconsin Marathon, May 8, 2011.  Also trying to swim 3 or 4x week and 2 or 3 trainer rides.

2010 RACES: Racine Half IM, Northshore Half Marathon, Bigfoot, Bangs Lake and Chicago Olys
2011 Races: Wisconsin Marathon, Racine HIM.  Then???  Rev3 Cedar Point?  Chicago Marathon??

WEIGHTLOSS: Am about 12 lbs above where I was after Racine.  Am trying to get back to that.  Am involved in a "15lbs in 15 weeks" weightloss challenge here, trying to drop a pound a week. Would really like to be down to 150 by the Marathon and maintain thru Racine.  Am focussing on eating better, healthier choices, moderation and consistent workout routine. 

Need Help with - Nutrition for the longer races; hydration and balance the two.  Racine killed me, was like 95 out that day.  I just died on the run!!!  (3.5 hour!) But, so did many many other people!  So, want to dial in everything and beat my time by at least an hour!  CORE!  I need to get back to working the core. 

Looking forward to this, to have a bunch of people to motivate me and keep me honest!  Looking forward to meeting all of you onhere!!!

jamiej - 2011-01-16 4:53 AM Right now we have a group of 14 plus myself. I'll probably take 1-2 more in the anticipation that a couple will drop out or decide that this group isn't meeting their needs. The group as of now: sbsmann-----------Scott diamondgirl1973---------Jennifer jeepguy2358------------Chris mpdiotte----------------Mike wallico------------------Wally vibratingp00-------------Dave radar987-----------------??? cccoles-------------------Chad clewis38----------------Cody alsi071-----------------Alex danrl88-----------------Dan syscrash----------------Brien chicagoman-------------Mark jbougher------------------?? I don't keep my log on BT. I have a 2 programs on my desktop for that. I will post daily in this thread what I do so everybody knows what I'm up to. I suggest that the group does the same. I have been looking at everybody's logs that I have access to. One recommendation I have for all of you during your biking sessions is that if you are going short (~1 hour) you have to go hard. Include intervals in your session at or above your predicted race pace using power/HR/RPE. For example, if you plan on racing in Z3 then I would do something like 25% of your time in Z3 (broken into intervals with a minute rest in between), 5-10% in Z4 and the rest in Z2. Slowly over time increase the amount of time you spend in each zone per training session either by adding time to the intervals and/or tying the intervals together. i.e 2X5' interval become 1X10' over time. The goal would be to slowly piece together your efforts so you are doing the entire session at race pace. And guess what? Do it ALL in aero. Remember that you are NOT working out. You are TRAINING. That means that you are practicing for a specific task. That task is to race at a certain zone in a certain position for a certain distance. Make sense?? Jamie

RVachon - 2011-01-16 8:07 AM



You forgot me on the list.  

JBougher - 2011-01-16 10:53 AM

My name is Jerry

Here is my info:

STORY:  I have tried to be athletic all my life.  I played multiple sports in HS and was a collegiate rower for 3 years.  After college, I got a little lazy and did not do so much in terms of working out.  I decided to run a Half Marathon in 2001 to change that.  Since then I have run 8 HM and 2 Marathons (2008 & 2009).  I started swimming as an alternative to running when i suffered from shinsplints and I got into Tris because I found that my body couldnt take the just running way to get a workout.   

I have several friends that participate in a local Tri, so I decided to try it out in 2009.  I chose the Olympic distance because I felt I needed the challenge.  I set a goal of 3 hrs and just missed it.  I have been hooked ever since.  I have done a few sprints and 4 Olympic distances since last year.
Finishing the year racing the San Francisco Triathlon at Alcatraz. 


FAMILY STATUS: Married w/ no kids

CURRENT TRAINING: Swimming/Biking and Running.  I really enjoy it and find that I need to being doing some kind of activity to feel active.  Have been using Training Peaks Program and was just starting Progressive Power Training on my Computrainer.

2010 RACES: Elkhart Lake Oly, Oshkosh Oly, San Francisco Tri at Alcatraz, Fort4 fitness Half Marathon 2011 RACES: EL Sprint, High Cliff HIM, Oshkosh Oly, Fort4 Fitness Half Marathon

WEIGHTLOSS: Not really an area of focus for me but would love to get to about 175. I am currently 190 but I am usually around 180 -185 during racing season

JBougher - 2011-01-16 3:47 PM

No, I do not have a Power setup for my bike.  Interested in getting something in the furture.  At this point, I also ride a roadie for my races.  I would also say that I would like to learn more on nutrition for this kind of distance.  The runs have killed my races, which is partially due to some nagging knee issues. 

sbsmann - 2011-01-16 8:56 PM Finished up the weekend with a nice little 7.5 miler at the Pettit Center (ice rink with indoor running track).  It was a good week of training for me and to top it off the Green Bay Packers made it to the NFC Championship game!  Tomorrow I have an easy ride on the trainer (morn or eve...not sure yet) and also a lunchtime swim. 

Wanted to touch base again on the salt tablets because I have never used them but will be playing around with them in the near future.  Was curious if the tablets are all about the same size (mg's per tab).  What is the difference between the sticks and tablets or is it one of the same?  And did you mention that you only used them in training and not during races? 

Is this an example of the sticks...http://www.amazon.com/Saltstick-Electrolyte-Capsules-100-bottle/dp/B002IY96B0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295226617&sr=8-1. 

Also another question on nutrtition.  Does anyone use the nutritional powders/mixes like Infinit?  Interested in hearing how well that has worked during a HIM?

sbsmann - 2011-01-16 8:56 PM

Finished up the weekend with a nice little 7.5 miler at the Pettit Center (ice rink with indoor running track).  It was a good week of training for me and to top it off the Green Bay Packers made it to the NFC Championship game!  Tomorrow I have an easy ride on the trainer (morn or eve...not sure yet) and also a lunchtime swim. 

Wanted to touch base again on the salt tablets because I have never used them but will be playing around with them in the near future.  Was curious if the tablets are all about the same size (mg's per tab).  What is the difference between the sticks and tablets or is it one of the same?  And did you mention that you only used them in training and not during races? 

Is this an example of the sticks...http://www.amazon.com/Saltstick-Electrolyte-Capsules-100-bottle/dp/B002IY96B0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295226617&sr=8-1. 

Also another question on nutrtition.  Does anyone use the nutritional powders/mixes like Infinit?  Interested in hearing how well that has worked during a HIM?

jamiej - 2011-01-17 3:18 AM And so did the Steelers! Most of the Salt Stick/Lava Salt/Endurolyte variety are pretty much the same size. Thermotabs are smaller so I took more of them/hr. Good point. Sorry I forgot to mention that earlier. I use them in training and racing. You have linked to the ones that I have used over the last 2 seasons. I've never used any of the magic potions. I like to keep it simple. I drink only water, eat only gel and take salt tabs. I realize the 'simplicity' hook for things like Infinit etc is that all of the stuff is in there in one ez bottle. What always worried me was what I would do if I dropped that bottle on the bike. Cut and paste from a previous post regarding your 'ez' bike, just a thought: One recommendation I have for all of you during your biking sessions is that if you are going short (~1 hour) you have to go hard. Include intervals in your session at or above your predicted race pace using power/HR/RPE. For example, if you plan on racing in Z3 then I would do something like 25% of your time in Z3 (broken into intervals with a minute rest in between), 5-10% in Z4 and the rest in Z2. Slowly over time increase the amount of time you spend in each zone per training session either by adding time to the intervals and/or tying the intervals together. i.e 2X5' interval become 1X10' over time. The goal would be to slowly piece together your efforts so you are doing the entire session at race pace. And guess what? Do it ALL in aero. Remember that you are NOT working out. You are TRAINING. That means that you are practicing for a specific task. That task is to race at a certain zone in a certain position for a certain distance. Make sense?? Jamie