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 2013-07-24 8:47 AM in reply to: DirkP |
 NH |  Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSEDOriginally posted by DirkP Originally posted by trigal38 Anybody know where Tracy has been? Her logs are very quiet. I have had similar thoughts myself. Things seem to have quieted down in the group in many ways. There's a lot of training going on and it's summer so all the vacations and weekend getaways may be part of what's going on with her. Besides, she's dealing with a young one of about the right age to begin some outside the home activities if I remember correctly. I know she's not allowed to leave the group!!!!! No one can leave! EVER!!!!!!!!!! (As I stand wielding a knife, making slashing movements.) There is only one way out of the family. |
| 2013-07-24 8:51 AM in reply to: DirkP |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by wbayek Interesting Tour de France factoid about the effects of drafting. Power files from stage 1 compare a few peloton dudes with someone in the breakaway who also contended for the sprints. All three riders finished together, so overall same speed for the 213 km stage (25.6 mph!). The two guys who stayed in the peloton averaged 158 and 159 watts, with NP of 216 and 217 for you power geeks. The breakaway rider averaged 256 watts with NP of 291! Since NP is a more accurate measurement of actual workload, he averaged 34% more work (and 60% more avg watts) to get the same speed! That is why drafting is illegal in USAT races, and to a lesser extent why steady pacing rules the day! I am by no means a power guy but these numbers seem low in a sense. Some might expect bigger numbers until you look at what the rest of us paltry cyclists would compare if were riding the same wattage on a flat. They would be screaming by us at 35MPH and we likely be at 18MPH. What those guys can turn over in the same power range is what makes the difference. We would be like a small child on training wheels if they were to ride with us Remember, this leg was 132 miles, and they had 2000 more to ride in 20 days! Agreed on the inhuman nature of these guys. If you want to be impressed, the shorter power numbers are nuts. The sprinter's top 30 second output was 852 watts, with a 10 second burst of 1123! And those were after being in the breakaway for 90 miles. |
| 2013-07-24 8:52 AM in reply to: jenbmosley |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by jenbmosley TALES froma JUNKIE... Over the weekend I did a long brick - 144 min bike ride + 70 minute run.... A few hours later my husband and I were riding in the car to get some new tires put on the car and he said to me....."With all that cardio you do, you should be really skinny... ummm.. what I meant is that you should look really, really lean....what I meant is... I love you honey, you are so beautiful." Rather than get upset and let him sleep on the couch.... I simply said, "looks like I get to sign up for a few more races, thank you honey." Very well played. |
| 2013-07-24 8:55 AM in reply to: strikyr |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by strikyr JoAnne I sooooo want to believe you since you've done both Syracuse and Wisconsin but I'll let you know once I've had my chance to see and ride Wisconsin. You know Wisconsin is rated as the toughest bike course for any IM. I've heard Wisconsin is very hard. Not only due to the elevation, but because it is relentless in presenting the rider with decisions. You are rarely in one type of riding for more than a few minutes, so you are always deciding how to handle different situations - up, down, different winds, turns, etc. Lots of little mistakes on the bike == disaster on the run. |
| 2013-07-24 9:26 AM in reply to: wbayek |
Veteran  454  Cairo, GA | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Thanks for the dear ole' H feedback. I'm still laughing about his comment three days later and am looking for my next race to sign up for. I have been wondering about Tracy lately. Maybe we can all inundate her with personal msgs until she checks in.
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| 2013-07-24 1:22 PM in reply to: wbayek |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Originally posted by strikyr JoAnne I sooooo want to believe you since you've done both Syracuse and Wisconsin but I'll let you know once I've had my chance to see and ride Wisconsin. You know Wisconsin is rated as the toughest bike course for any IM. I've heard Wisconsin is very hard. Not only due to the elevation, but because it is relentless in presenting the rider with decisions. You are rarely in one type of riding for more than a few minutes, so you are always deciding how to handle different situations - up, down, different winds, turns, etc. Lots of little mistakes on the bike == disaster on the run. Great timing - here's an excerpt from an article I got today which speaks exactly to what I said. Since getting the power meter I've really learned how easy it is to push WAY too hard up short hills, especially short steepish hills, which is what my everyday rides are littered with. What I thought was even effort was not even close to that - oftentimes I was spiking at 150%+ of my threshold power left to my own "feel". Doesn't seem to matter much for training rides or even "short" races, but it can be a killer for long course. http://beta.active.com/cycling/articles/how-to-ensure-a-great-ironm... Short Climbs These are the killers of Ironman run splits. Why? Because short, steep hills force you to make many, many decisions. It's very easy to make wrong decisions-too much power-on these hills, and they are short enough that your heart rate probably never rises to a level that's a true reflection of your effort. |
| 2013-07-24 2:59 PM in reply to: KWDreamun |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by KWDreamun Tony and Will, now don't even think about what I'm saying as far as the swim goes because I'm just barely learning to swim, right now barely better than a rock but for IM and I haven't done one, but swimming for an hour may leave you very tired during the race. I did intervals for the 1st time last week based on what Matt suggested and i was gassed after 30 minutes, lost my form and everything..it took me several days to get my form back and i was about ready to throw up from the intervals. So intervals are much more intense than just a long slow swim. I swam a long slow swim last night 40 minutes nonstop and I could have gone further and i would not even get in the water for an IM. Like I just said, I swam 40 minutes last night and today I got up at 3:30 to run and i was so tired. Is it better to trudge thru the run or rest and run an day or 2 later? As Tony mentioned, I am just tired and fatigued almost constantly right now... ha! You mentioned that you are weak on swimming. That's probably a contributer... once you get stronger, I doubt these efforts will affect you as bad. Another thing I'll add is nutrition. Did you eat or drink anythig to recover from the long swim WO? Lastly, you got up at 3:30am? What is wrong with you!? jk. But seriously, how much did you sleep. I know for me, being in the water can take it out of me and I need a good 8 hours sleep to help me feel rested. About WO's where you feel fatigued going in... as Tony mentioned, we have no choice... ha! So far, there have been many days where I tried to convince myself not to go WO b/c I was SO tired. But, I just tell myself to shut up and then my legs stat cussing me and I tell them to shut up. I'll just start out easy and take extra time to warm up and ease into the WO. It's worked pretty well. There have been a couple times where I pretty much bonked and didnt finish or finished very slow, but that is helping me figure out my limits. |
| 2013-07-24 3:14 PM in reply to: Jo63 |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by Jo63 Tony, I am happy to hear you didn't fall when you dropped your chain! Nice ride too! Matt congrats on your 2 races. Dirk congrats on your race also! And I love the tattoo! Warren man between you and tony you guys have put in some crazy miles! So this weekend was great! I ended up talking one of my employees last minute into going with me to volunteer, we had a blast! We did body marking and it was fun to talk to people and encourage the really nervous ones. But the best was the wetsuit stripping, this was the first year they did this at this race and people were loving it escpecially since the swim was pretty rough, they had 4 foot waves and Iam pretty sure they said over 100 people dropped from the swim  it was fun to see Mirinda and Julie Moss was also there, I was surprised there was no media for her but I recognized her so that was awesome seeing her as she is the one who inspired me back in the day  For me it is time to refocus I haven't swam at all since June. Life h been a little stressful since the closing of the Milwaukee salon, I have been trying to keep paying the loan we have for a business that no longer exist and it's killing us. Jo, great job bringing someone new to a triathlon. You can encourage your single ladies to go by telling them it's a great place to meet fit, single men! Plus in this case it looks you can promise them the chance to undress a whole bunch of guys! |
| 2013-07-24 3:15 PM in reply to: jenbmosley |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by jenbmosley TALES froma JUNKIE... Over the weekend I did a long brick - 144 min bike ride + 70 minute run.... A few hours later my husband and I were riding in the car to get some new tires put on the car and he said to me....."With all that cardio you do, you should be really skinny... ummm.. what I meant is that you should look really, really lean....what I meant is... I love you honey, you are so beautiful." Rather than get upset and let him sleep on the couch.... I simply said, "looks like I get to sign up for a few more races, thank you honey." Jen, you did the right thing staying silent long enough to allow him to finish his sentence. Speaking for all men I thank you.  |
| 2013-07-24 3:16 PM in reply to: pistuo |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by pistuo Originally posted by KWDreamun Tony and Will, now don't even think about what I'm saying as far as the swim goes because I'm just barely learning to swim, right now barely better than a rock but for IM and I haven't done one, but swimming for an hour may leave you very tired during the race. I did intervals for the 1st time last week based on what Matt suggested and i was gassed after 30 minutes, lost my form and everything..it took me several days to get my form back and i was about ready to throw up from the intervals. So intervals are much more intense than just a long slow swim. I swam a long slow swim last night 40 minutes nonstop and I could have gone further and i would not even get in the water for an IM. Like I just said, I swam 40 minutes last night and today I got up at 3:30 to run and i was so tired. Is it better to trudge thru the run or rest and run an day or 2 later? As Tony mentioned, I am just tired and fatigued almost constantly right now... ha! You mentioned that you are weak on swimming. That's probably a contributer... once you get stronger, I doubt these efforts will affect you as bad. Another thing I'll add is nutrition. Did you eat or drink anythig to recover from the long swim WO? Lastly, you got up at 3:30am? What is wrong with you!? jk. But seriously, how much did you sleep. I know for me, being in the water can take it out of me and I need a good 8 hours sleep to help me feel rested. About WO's where you feel fatigued going in... as Tony mentioned, we have no choice... ha! So far, there have been many days where I tried to convince myself not to go WO b/c I was SO tired. But, I just tell myself to shut up and then my legs stat cussing me and I tell them to shut up. I'll just start out easy and take extra time to warm up and ease into the WO. It's worked pretty well. There have been a couple times where I pretty much bonked and didnt finish or finished very slow, but that is helping me figure out my limits. Will so true and I know how you feel. There are days I feel so tired and don't want to work and then I get going and I'm just fine. Mostly everything I've been doing is low intensity zone1/2 work except with some of the bike workouts. It's all been all about volume and trying to keep it aerobic. |
| 2013-07-24 3:16 PM in reply to: Jo63 |
Extreme Veteran 872 Tx | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by Jo63 Will did I miss somewhere that you signed up for your IM ? I've been trying to avoid this when anyone mentions it... ha! Here's the skinny: I havent signed up yet, but I'm close. As of right now, there are 150 spots left in the FULL. I've been telling myself that if it drops to 100, I'm snagging one (dont want to risk missing it). There's not just one specific reason why I've waited... I've just watched it every day and since I still have time, I'm taking it. Main reasons are: 1. New baby/family time. It's our first baby. It's gone pretty well so far balancing it (4 months), so feeling good about this one. 2. Money- that's a lot of coin, so I'm waititng just in case something unforseen happens... I'm not worried at all about this, but if the race isnt full then why not wait? 3. Training- For those of you that dont know, I only started tri about 3 years ago (that includes learning how to swim). And then I basically took all of 2012 off. I lost most fitness on the bike (could barely finish a 16 mile ride... ha!). So, I feel like I've got some good base in since the end of 2012. But since I basically missed 3 weeks of training in June/July as my official training plan started, I really wanted to finish July strong and show myself that I have what it takes and can train in this freakish heat. Last week was good for this, especially the 80 mile ride. This week is going good so far as well. Plus, Tony is really inspiring me the way he is killing his WO's, so it's helping me feel more comfortable b/c I feel like we are similar from a fitness standpoint. Honestly, I think I'll probably sign up at the end of this week... |
| 2013-07-24 3:21 PM in reply to: JeffY |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Ok, so update on me...I've been pretty uninvolved lately due to busyness combined with general summer triathlon doldrums. For the last month I've been a little down about sub-par performances and the flare up of the pain in my feet. I have been missing 1 or sometimes 2 days of training each week recently. (and that is 2 to 3 workouts!) I have been eating voraciously and am over 10lbs heavier than I was a month ago! On the plus side, my swimming is quite a bit improved, at least in the pool...that might not translate to open water. Cycling? Not sure. I've been missing some of my weekday rides and that could be bad or good if the extra rest allows greater recovery in the short term. And the increased calories and weight gain can sometimes help on the bike. But mostly it's running that's been lacking. No double run days and no long weekend runs since the flare up...not to mention that I raced so frequently that I missed 7 weekends of long runs prior anyway. Well, that's me. But I will be going to Indianapolis tapered and ready for an 'A' race performance! |
| 2013-07-25 4:46 AM in reply to: pistuo |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by pistuo Question: -For training, do you think it's super important to follow the planned WO exactly? Or am I good as long as I get the distance/time in? For example, all the swim WO's are intervals. So for a 1 hr swim WO, is it okay to just jump in and swim an hour straight instead? There are key workouts that will test your abilities that you need to keep as planned. They set the WO's for a periodization to make sure that you are getting the most bang for your buck. The key workouts will maximize your endurance and make you faster at the same time. These factors will make your IM (or any other race you might train for) a better race by capitalizing on key elements of training. All of the different WO's should be giving you endurance, speed, threshold and VO2 max kinds of WO's to get you prepared. I have not examined the BT intermediate plan that closely but I would guess they are in there. And to more pointedly answer your question, No it's not okay to make up your own workout plan. That said, you can still make stupendous fitness gains without periodization and but the training and racing peaks won't be as dominantly visible. We have talked recently about something in your training "all of a sudden clicks" and you find yourself swimming faster or riding faster. That will happen regardless of training in periods. But the periods will provide a maximum benefit to the plan. |
| 2013-07-25 5:20 AM in reply to: DirkP |
Expert 1439 Tallahassee | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Jeff, it is good to hear that you are here and kicking. Sorry you are missing workouts but go ahead and recover as needed. Good Luck and continue to let us know how things are going. |
| 2013-07-25 8:46 AM in reply to: JeffY |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by JeffY Ok, so update on me...I've been pretty uninvolved lately due to busyness combined with general summer triathlon doldrums. For the last month I've been a little down about sub-par performances and the flare up of the pain in my feet. I have been missing 1 or sometimes 2 days of training each week recently. (and that is 2 to 3 workouts!) I have been eating voraciously and am over 10lbs heavier than I was a month ago! On the plus side, my swimming is quite a bit improved, at least in the pool...that might not translate to open water. Cycling? Not sure. I've been missing some of my weekday rides and that could be bad or good if the extra rest allows greater recovery in the short term. And the increased calories and weight gain can sometimes help on the bike. But mostly it's running that's been lacking. No double run days and no long weekend runs since the flare up...not to mention that I raced so frequently that I missed 7 weekends of long runs prior anyway. Well, that's me. But I will be going to Indianapolis tapered and ready for an 'A' race performance! Jeff glad to see you checking and sorry to hear about the ongoing foot issues. It's good to see that you still have been able to get out and ride and that you've improved your swimming as well. I can relate to the voracious eating, I've been eating like crazy but fortunately not gaining any weight due to all the training volume. That will come to end unfortunately and will probably be the thing I will miss the most. Sounds like you'll be ready to go for Tri Indy and it should be a great race. |
| 2013-07-25 8:53 AM in reply to: wbayek |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Originally posted by strikyr JoAnne I sooooo want to believe you since you've done both Syracuse and Wisconsin but I'll let you know once I've had my chance to see and ride Wisconsin. You know Wisconsin is rated as the toughest bike course for any IM. I've heard Wisconsin is very hard. Not only due to the elevation, but because it is relentless in presenting the rider with decisions. You are rarely in one type of riding for more than a few minutes, so you are always deciding how to handle different situations - up, down, different winds, turns, etc. Lots of little mistakes on the bike == disaster on the run. Warren this is all very true and the same thing my friend Wynn told me as he did IMWI in 2010. I also found and listened to the EN podcast on racing IMWI. It's from 2010 but it was great, there is a lot of good info in there on how to tackle the course. I would recommend anybody considering doing IMWI to give that a listen to. You can find it on Endurance Nation's website under the podcast section. I would even recommend this to Will to listen to. There are some tips there that can be used for any IM course. I've listened to it two or three times already and I think the most important thing I've gotten out of it is the need to be patient. Slow, steady and patient. |
| 2013-07-25 9:30 AM in reply to: strikyr |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Hey Warren, that's some awesome riding in the mountains. You are ready for a stage in the Pyrenees! While it's quite hilly in my area we don't have any sustained climbs that are as long as will be found in the 'real' mountains. But we have some steep ones. Here is a strava segment of a hill that's infamous near me. http://app.strava.com/segments/787626 Check out the hill's elevation profile. There is a place on the hill where the grade reaches past 26%. How did they even pave a road this steep??? |
| 2013-07-25 1:44 PM in reply to: 0 |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by JeffY Hey Warren, that's some awesome riding in the mountains. You are ready for a stage in the Pyrenees! While it's quite hilly in my area we don't have any sustained climbs that are as long as will be found in the 'real' mountains. But we have some steep ones. Here is a strava segment of a hill that's infamous near me. http://app.strava.com/segments/787626 Check out the hill's elevation profile. There is a place on the hill where the grade reaches past 26%. How did they even pave a road this steep??? I agree on the paving - and notice how few people have done that segment! Those are even scary to drive up (or down) in a car. We have very few "long" climbs around here either, but it always seems to be up or down. Here's one up at the lake Jonathan and I did twice in one ride last summer. Shorter but even steeper. http://app.strava.com/segments/1664250 Not sure why this segment stops where it does since the climb continues another .3 up the road at a slighly lesser but still dastardly pitch. Two other guys riding with us are on the segment page MUCH faster than me! We hit this after 20 miles and 2500 feet of climbing, so we were all a little spent, and then again after 35 miles and 4000 feet. That's a warning to all of you to NEVER agree to meet up with Jonathan for a hill climbing fest with his cycling buddies! I want to redo this climb this year to see how much I've improved - I was really struggling last year and even dropped my chain near the beginning the second time around. Edited by wbayek 2013-07-25 2:14 PM |
| 2013-07-25 1:53 PM in reply to: JeffY |
| NH | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by JeffY Ok, so update on me...I've been pretty uninvolved lately due to busyness combined with general summer triathlon doldrums. For the last month I've been a little down about sub-par performances and the flare up of the pain in my feet. I have been missing 1 or sometimes 2 days of training each week recently. (and that is 2 to 3 workouts!) I have been eating voraciously and am over 10lbs heavier than I was a month ago! On the plus side, my swimming is quite a bit improved, at least in the pool...that might not translate to open water. Cycling? Not sure. I've been missing some of my weekday rides and that could be bad or good if the extra rest allows greater recovery in the short term. And the increased calories and weight gain can sometimes help on the bike. But mostly it's running that's been lacking. No double run days and no long weekend runs since the flare up...not to mention that I raced so frequently that I missed 7 weekends of long runs prior anyway. Well, that's me. But I will be going to Indianapolis tapered and ready for an 'A' race performance! I figured that foot was bothering you, but don't sweat the performances. You're so much further along in your tri "career" than most of us, so even just maintaining the performance level you’ve already attained is a tight tolerance. You're still kicking it when healthy. Remember, this is a hobby, it’s fun, and you still have a lot of knowledge to pass on to us further back on the road! I credit you a ton with my running improvements and running health, and I’m not alone, so take some pride in knowing that you are really giving back a lot. And crush that Dirk character in a few weeks! I really wish I could be there to meet up with all the junkies. |
| 2013-07-25 2:59 PM in reply to: JeffY |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by JeffY Ok, so update on me...I've been pretty uninvolved lately due to busyness combined with general summer triathlon doldrums. For the last month I've been a little down about sub-par performances and the flare up of the pain in my feet. I have been missing 1 or sometimes 2 days of training each week recently. (and that is 2 to 3 workouts!) I have been eating voraciously and am over 10lbs heavier than I was a month ago! On the plus side, my swimming is quite a bit improved, at least in the pool...that might not translate to open water. Cycling? Not sure. I've been missing some of my weekday rides and that could be bad or good if the extra rest allows greater recovery in the short term. And the increased calories and weight gain can sometimes help on the bike. But mostly it's running that's been lacking. No double run days and no long weekend runs since the flare up...not to mention that I raced so frequently that I missed 7 weekends of long runs prior anyway. Well, that's me. But I will be going to Indianapolis tapered and ready for an 'A' race performance! I wondered how you had been doing since you have been having the trouble with your feet. I hadn't really seen much on facebook either and began to wonder a little more. Hopefully you'll be ready in Indy next week! It should be a great race if we are both ready to go. The good news is that I am a little heavier than I had planned to be right now, so we're even on that level. The level of my ability against yours still leaves me in doubt when the showdown begins. Question: Am I still a marked man on your refridgerator? And who's number 2 on your hit list? Warren? Maybe it's Warren and I that need to go head to head with his trash talking though! Maybe I could give him a head start of, say, 1 or 2 MONTHS just to make it fair. |
| 2013-07-25 3:59 PM in reply to: wbayek |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by wbayek Originally posted by JeffY Hey Warren, that's some awesome riding in the mountains. You are ready for a stage in the Pyrenees! While it's quite hilly in my area we don't have any sustained climbs that are as long as will be found in the 'real' mountains. But we have some steep ones. Here is a strava segment of a hill that's infamous near me. http://app.strava.com/segments/787626 Check out the hill's elevation profile. There is a place on the hill where the grade reaches past 26%. How did they even pave a road this steep??? I agree on the paving - and notice how few people have done that segment! Those are even scary to drive up (or down) in a car. We have very few "long" climbs around here either, but it always seems to be up or down. Here's one up at the lake Jonathan and I did twice in one ride last summer. Shorter but even steeper. http://app.strava.com/segments/1664250 Not sure why this segment stops where it does since the climb continues another .3 up the road at a slighly lesser but still dastardly pitch. Two other guys riding with us are on the segment page MUCH faster than me! We hit this after 20 miles and 2500 feet of climbing, so we were all a little spent, and then again after 35 miles and 4000 feet. That's a warning to all of you to NEVER agree to meet up with Jonathan for a hill climbing fest with his cycling buddies! I want to redo this climb this year to see how much I've improved - I was really struggling last year and even dropped my chain near the beginning the second time around. No way! I saw a spot on that climb with over 80% grade!?!?! How do you not pop a wheelie? In a car, you would be looking out the windshield and see only sky...not the road? Crazy! |
| 2013-07-25 4:06 PM in reply to: DirkP |
Master 2327 Columbia, TN | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by DirkP Question: Am I still a marked man on your refridgerator? And who's number 2 on your hit list? Warren? Yes you are! Not Warren, but I need to consider that.... Dirk, what do you think we will do at Tri Indy? 2:12ish? Can I just show up at the campground on Saturday without a reservation, or do you think I need to reserve a camp site ahead of time? |
| 2013-07-25 7:04 PM in reply to: JeffY |
Master 3486 Fort Wayne | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED 2:12?? Last year I went 2:19. If I can put together a 2:12 I will be extremely happy!!! I am thinking a 2:15 is more likely where I will land. Now, if this race is wetsuit legal this year I might be able to hammer out a 2:12. The weather so far this year could work that into the equation with the cooler temps we've been having all week. The current weather outlook looks like it will be favorable for a wetsuit swim. Campground: You probably can just show up. I have never seen the campground busy in the 3 years we've stayed there. Usually there are a lot of sites opened for the weekend. I would suggest you ask for a site closer to the office. There is a natural sound barrier from the noise of the interstate on the south side of the creek that runs through the middle of the campground. What time do you think you'll plan on getting the campground? We could do dinner together if you like. Dina and Joanne, have you made a decision about whether you're going? It's getting crunch time. You can actually register on race day if you're still undecided but tomorrow is the last day for the cheaper registration. It goes from $70 to $75 for the sprint and $75 to $80 for the oly on Saturday. No big deal if you can't make it. You'll just miss some great head to head action between Jeff and I, if you care about that kind thing. |
| 2013-07-25 9:30 PM in reply to: strikyr |
Extreme Veteran 1123 Sidney, Ohio | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by strikyr Implosion on a Bike course, now thats something I have experience on. This conversation peaked my curiosity so I looked back at the data from last years HIM I attempted. That is a example of what not to do, came out of the water and averaged almost a 150avg hr for the 1st 20 or so miles. In total spent 75% of the bike in zome 3 and the time that wasn't that high was probably when I was stopped on the side of the road trying to stretch the cramps out of my back! Oh the memories! Learned from this and now I know that anything over 145 HR for more than 30 miles and I start to feel pain and issues in my back. Not sure how to fix that, yet. overall that ride came in at 16mph with a 141hr, compare that to a recent training ride which I went 64 miles with a avg HR of 130 and a speed of 17mph AND I was able to run afterwards! Now if I could just do that on race day...which is only 46 days away!Originally posted by wbayek Warren this is all very true and the same thing my friend Wynn told me as he did IMWI in 2010. I also found and listened to the EN podcast on racing IMWI. It's from 2010 but it was great, there is a lot of good info in there on how to tackle the course. I would recommend anybody considering doing IMWI to give that a listen to. You can find it on Endurance Nation's website under the podcast section. I would even recommend this to Will to listen to. There are some tips there that can be used for any IM course. I've listened to it two or three times already and I think the most important thing I've gotten out of it is the need to be patient. Slow, steady and patient. Originally posted by strikyr JoAnne I sooooo want to believe you since you've done both Syracuse and Wisconsin but I'll let you know once I've had my chance to see and ride Wisconsin. You know Wisconsin is rated as the toughest bike course for any IM. I've heard Wisconsin is very hard. Not only due to the elevation, but because it is relentless in presenting the rider with decisions. You are rarely in one type of riding for more than a few minutes, so you are always deciding how to handle different situations - up, down, different winds, turns, etc. Lots of little mistakes on the bike == disaster on the run. |
| 2013-07-26 2:55 PM in reply to: mambos |
Expert 2380 Mastic Beach, NY | Subject: RE: ASPHALT JUNKIES Summer Bronzing Crew - CLOSED Originally posted by mambos Originally posted by strikyr Implosion on a Bike course, now thats something I have experience on. This conversation peaked my curiosity so I looked back at the data from last years HIM I attempted. That is a example of what not to do, came out of the water and averaged almost a 150avg hr for the 1st 20 or so miles. In total spent 75% of the bike in zome 3 and the time that wasn't that high was probably when I was stopped on the side of the road trying to stretch the cramps out of my back! Oh the memories! Learned from this and now I know that anything over 145 HR for more than 30 miles and I start to feel pain and issues in my back. Not sure how to fix that, yet. overall that ride came in at 16mph with a 141hr, compare that to a recent training ride which I went 64 miles with a avg HR of 130 and a speed of 17mph AND I was able to run afterwards! Now if I could just do that on race day...which is only 46 days away! Originally posted by wbayek Warren this is all very true and the same thing my friend Wynn told me as he did IMWI in 2010. I also found and listened to the EN podcast on racing IMWI. It's from 2010 but it was great, there is a lot of good info in there on how to tackle the course. I would recommend anybody considering doing IMWI to give that a listen to. You can find it on Endurance Nation's website under the podcast section. I would even recommend this to Will to listen to. There are some tips there that can be used for any IM course. I've listened to it two or three times already and I think the most important thing I've gotten out of it is the need to be patient. Slow, steady and patient. Originally posted by strikyr JoAnne I sooooo want to believe you since you've done both Syracuse and Wisconsin but I'll let you know once I've had my chance to see and ride Wisconsin. You know Wisconsin is rated as the toughest bike course for any IM. I've heard Wisconsin is very hard. Not only due to the elevation, but because it is relentless in presenting the rider with decisions. You are rarely in one type of riding for more than a few minutes, so you are always deciding how to handle different situations - up, down, different winds, turns, etc. Lots of little mistakes on the bike == disaster on the run. Matt you are right the key to the whole bike thing is being patient. I think Dirk mentioned patience in one of his earlier posts. It sounds really easy but it's tough to put that into practice. If you find the time check out that EN podcast on Wisconsin. They were saying that you want to do the opposite of what everyone else is doing so if you are getting passed by a 65 year old man with a bucket of chicken on the front of your bike then you are doing the right thing! LOL. That was an exact qoute from the podcast. I plan on writing the word patience on my arm where I can see it on the bike leg. They also said it's not the Tour de France so don't put a climbing exhibition on for the 3 big climbs there. With the big crowds cheering people on I can see how you can get caught up in that. I thought it was pretty funny but it's probably very true. You have to slow down to be fast. |
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