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I have played many sports throughout my life and have had good and bad coaches.  Triathlon is the only sport i have participated in where "coaches" work remotely and rarely see their athletes.  I cannot imagine this.  If i was a coach i would never accept a client who i could not watch train regularly.  Unless a coach is standing there watching you, the benefit of coaching is lost.  What you are getting is a person who is creating a custom plan based on statistics.  the human eye and brain watching the athelete are more importnat than readings off a power meter or heart rates.  I coach little league, i cannot imagine emailing hitting instructions and a practice plan after watching the kids take BP. Thus, while I would love to have a coach to push me, establish a good training plan and guide me, i would never subscribe to remote training. 

I have to disagree with you on this Jeff.

When you think about the sports that most frequently involve live coaches, those coaches are there to either coordinate movements among a team of competitors or to finesse an athlete's fine motor skills.  You are correct that you likely would not benefit from someone emailing you hitting instructions but you wouldn't want to waste a coach's time to sit and watch you spin your pedals either.

Once your bike is properly fit, your primary focus is on maximizing your muscular endurance not tweaking your pedal stroke.  Watch a swim coach working the pool deck.  They aren't critiquing every swimmer's stroke on each lap.  They are coordinating the proper workout to maximize swim fitness.

When you are dealing with swimming, biking and running, the only difference between a coach physically being alongside you versus being remote is a matter of who hits the lap button on the stopwatch. 

If Molly wants to see how my workouts went, she simply has to look at my GPS data.  From my Garmin file, she can see whether I was slowing down b/c I was climbing a hill or because my body was shot.

Look at the association of Chris Carmichael and Lance Armstrong.  Carmichael was able to train Armstrong remotely simply because Armstrong sent his Garmin file to Carmichael after every key workout for analysis.

More information can be gleaned from a single GPS file than you may think.  After major races, Jesse has each of his athletes provide their files for grading and can tell exactly what was happening to them, even though he was not right next to them.  It's not magic.  It's knowing what to look for and how different pieces of data fit together to create the whole picture.  (Here is Jesse's analysis of Cait Snow's 2:56 Kona marathon from 2010. Link )

On the other side of the equation, I have seen a number of coaches who have neither the ability to interpret data files nor the capability to adapt an individual athlete's training structure based on the physiological responses of that athlete.  I knew 3 athletes in Tampa (a 240# guy, a 105# female and a 170# female) who had the same coach and all of them had the exact same training plan.  After seeing what they were doing, I immediately recognized that the coach was doing nothing more than copying the workouts verbatim from the Triathlete's Training Bible without adjustment.  For those simple secretarial skills, he was charging them over $150 per month.

Recognize though that my examples of Molly, Carmichael and Jesse are all high-end coaches with specific experience.  That is something you will not find in every coach and that is why selecting a coach requires more than just a question of what pricing plans the coach offers.

so molly reads your GPS/garmin and see you did objectively well/bad.  she cant sit and talk with you about why right there and then.  she doesnt see you when you show up dragging from a hard day of work and realize the WO must be changed or, conversely, a sparkle in your eys and know that it is time bring the hammer.  The benefit of a coach is the individualism they bring to working with an athlete. A plan is great until reality attacks.  this is my problem with plans generally.  They are all canned to a certain degree (not as bad as your tampa friends, that is outright fraud) unless you are Cate Snow or Lance Armstrong or willing to spend a fortune to get a good coaches intention.  Heck, I'm sure if I called Mark Allen and paid him enough he'd be at my beckon call.  A present coach knows when to modify the plan, the self coach athlete has to follow a plan based on nomative criteria which may not exist at trainign time.  This is not to say you need a coach there 100% of the time.  But, in my view for key workouts i would want my coach there pushing me, correcting form, etc.

of course, reasonable minds can differ and i have never used a coach so i am speaking with a measure of ignorance.  But, most coach seem to email a bunch of WOs and then you chat 1-2x week about how its going, sort of hard to understand how that is useful, at least to me.



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I've been considering finding a "coach" for nutrition purposes lately. I have a friend who competes in fitness comps and is a trainer and thought about asking him for some advice/coaching/pointers, but I'm not sure. 
2011-05-28 5:21 AM
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jsklarz - 2011-05-27 9:30 PM
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jsklarz - 2011-05-27 7:14 AM

I have played many sports throughout my life and have had good and bad coaches.  Triathlon is the only sport i have participated in where "coaches" work remotely and rarely see their athletes.  I cannot imagine this.  If i was a coach i would never accept a client who i could not watch train regularly.  Unless a coach is standing there watching you, the benefit of coaching is lost.  What you are getting is a person who is creating a custom plan based on statistics.  the human eye and brain watching the athelete are more importnat than readings off a power meter or heart rates.  I coach little league, i cannot imagine emailing hitting instructions and a practice plan after watching the kids take BP. Thus, while I would love to have a coach to push me, establish a good training plan and guide me, i would never subscribe to remote training. 

I have to disagree with you on this Jeff.

When you think about the sports that most frequently involve live coaches, those coaches are there to either coordinate movements among a team of competitors or to finesse an athlete's fine motor skills.  You are correct that you likely would not benefit from someone emailing you hitting instructions but you wouldn't want to waste a coach's time to sit and watch you spin your pedals either.

Once your bike is properly fit, your primary focus is on maximizing your muscular endurance not tweaking your pedal stroke.  Watch a swim coach working the pool deck.  They aren't critiquing every swimmer's stroke on each lap.  They are coordinating the proper workout to maximize swim fitness.

When you are dealing with swimming, biking and running, the only difference between a coach physically being alongside you versus being remote is a matter of who hits the lap button on the stopwatch. 

If Molly wants to see how my workouts went, she simply has to look at my GPS data.  From my Garmin file, she can see whether I was slowing down b/c I was climbing a hill or because my body was shot.

Look at the association of Chris Carmichael and Lance Armstrong.  Carmichael was able to train Armstrong remotely simply because Armstrong sent his Garmin file to Carmichael after every key workout for analysis.

More information can be gleaned from a single GPS file than you may think.  After major races, Jesse has each of his athletes provide their files for grading and can tell exactly what was happening to them, even though he was not right next to them.  It's not magic.  It's knowing what to look for and how different pieces of data fit together to create the whole picture.  (Here is Jesse's analysis of Cait Snow's 2:56 Kona marathon from 2010. Link )

On the other side of the equation, I have seen a number of coaches who have neither the ability to interpret data files nor the capability to adapt an individual athlete's training structure based on the physiological responses of that athlete.  I knew 3 athletes in Tampa (a 240# guy, a 105# female and a 170# female) who had the same coach and all of them had the exact same training plan.  After seeing what they were doing, I immediately recognized that the coach was doing nothing more than copying the workouts verbatim from the Triathlete's Training Bible without adjustment.  For those simple secretarial skills, he was charging them over $150 per month.

Recognize though that my examples of Molly, Carmichael and Jesse are all high-end coaches with specific experience.  That is something you will not find in every coach and that is why selecting a coach requires more than just a question of what pricing plans the coach offers.

so molly reads your GPS/garmin and see you did objectively well/bad.  she cant sit and talk with you about why right there and then.  she doesnt see you when you show up dragging from a hard day of work and realize the WO must be changed or, conversely, a sparkle in your eys and know that it is time bring the hammer.  The benefit of a coach is the individualism they bring to working with an athlete. A plan is great until reality attacks.  this is my problem with plans generally.  They are all canned to a certain degree (not as bad as your tampa friends, that is outright fraud) unless you are Cate Snow or Lance Armstrong or willing to spend a fortune to get a good coaches intention.  Heck, I'm sure if I called Mark Allen and paid him enough he'd be at my beckon call.  A present coach knows when to modify the plan, the self coach athlete has to follow a plan based on nomative criteria which may not exist at trainign time.  This is not to say you need a coach there 100% of the time.  But, in my view for key workouts i would want my coach there pushing me, correcting form, etc.

of course, reasonable minds can differ and i have never used a coach so i am speaking with a measure of ignorance.  But, most coach seem to email a bunch of WOs and then you chat 1-2x week about how its going, sort of hard to understand how that is useful, at least to me.

I must have misinterpreted your original premise.

I thought you were comparing the validity in-person versus remote coaching.  I didn't understand that you were comparing individualized coaching (remote and in-person) against non-individualized coaching.

I agree with you on key principle of individuality in the approach a coach takes with an athlete.  When I first started with QT2, I was a mission plan athlete where I had a set plan up through a given race but no real day-to-day review of any workouts or data files.  Without that oversight, I bailed on upwards of half my workouts on some weeks, especially in the middle of winter.  As a one-on-one athlete, Molly looks at my data after each workout, gives specific feedback and makes real-time adjustments to my plan.  Best of all, if I haven't logged my workouts for a day or two, she's calling me to find out what's going on.

I agree that the bulk of coaching services are of the type where you do not receive detailed review of individual workouts and, instead, have limited contact to the degree of simply asking "how do you feel?"  Depending on the athlete, this may or may not have the desired outcomes.  I used canned plans up through my first HIM because I did not know enough to develop my own workouts and, in that case, having any plan was far better than having no plan at all.

2011-05-28 5:30 AM
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"I did not know enough to develop my own workouts and, in that case, having any plan was far better than having no plan at all."

I think one of the biggest benefits of coaching, especially for the time constrained athlete, is the have someone tell you, which works outs are actually key and what can be removed if necessary.  When a lot of us make these decisions in the absence of a coach we either drop the "wrong" workouts or try to squeeze things together that shouldn't be together (such as putting two key workouts back to back, when in reality there needs to be rest in between the,).  Its difficult to look at yourself and your training objectively and a coach who can do that brings a lot of value to the table (and that's the whole point of any coach).

Also to further Shaun's point, I don't know of a single pro who has their coach sitting next to them for all (or even the majority) of their key workouts.

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About to head out for a 6 hours bike and an hour water run.  Foggy now, but supposed to get warm and sun.  Going to be interesting to see how the nutrition works in the heat.
2011-05-28 6:05 AM
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Shaun - you did not misinterpret my original post.  I think remote coaching is not particularly good.  Remote canned plans with limited support are even worse.  My ideal would be to work with a local coach and meet 3 or so times a week for my key workouts in each sport.  Discuss the workout before (or day before) and discuss how it went after.  This could be done with a group of 5-7 people without issue.  I think a good coach is a great investment for many reasons, plan development, feedback, etc.  I just cannot comprehend of doing it remotely.  All the coach would know is that I am a statistic, that is not how the body works.

Kelly - I am not saying the coach has to be there for every workout, obviously having a coach bike alongside while you do a LSD is not useful.  But, reading the power curve and HR data are not a substitute for the human eye and brain and the feedback a coach can supply never mind the "push" to maximize the WO.  Your point is, otherwise, an excellent reason for having a coach. 

For me, I have spoken with several and basically am told i'll get: a tweaked canned plan, email chat and a weekly call for $200-300/month.  The other thing that drives me bonkers about coaches is that they just dont understand nontraditional enduance athletes who are really really busy. 

In sum, we all have to find what works best for us.  I wish i could find a coach that suited my needs as it would help a lot.  Despite my love of my "nonplan" plans, i would like some better focus to mazimize my time and ability within the extremely specific criteria of my priorities and hectic life.   



2011-05-28 6:07 AM
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jsklarz - 2011-05-28 7:05 AM

Shaun - you did not misinterpret my original post.  I think remote coaching is not particularly good.  Remote canned plans with limited support are even worse.  My ideal would be to work with a local coach and meet 3 or so times a week for my key workouts in each sport.  Discuss the workout before (or day before) and discuss how it went after.  This could be done with a group of 5-7 people without issue.  I think a good coach is a great investment for many reasons, plan development, feedback, etc.  I just cannot comprehend of doing it remotely.  All the coach would know is that I am a statistic, that is not how the body works.

Kelly - I am not saying the coach has to be there for every workout, obviously having a coach bike alongside while you do a LSD is not useful.  But, reading the power curve and HR data are not a substitute for the human eye and brain and the feedback a coach can supply never mind the "push" to maximize the WO.  Your point is, otherwise, an excellent reason for having a coach. 

For me, I have spoken with several and basically am told i'll get: a tweaked canned plan, email chat and a weekly call for $200-300/month.  The other thing that drives me bonkers about coaches is that they just dont understand nontraditional enduance athletes who are really really busy. 

In sum, we all have to find what works best for us.  I wish i could find a coach that suited my needs as it would help a lot.  Despite my love of my "nonplan" plans, i would like some better focus to mazimize my time and ability within the extremely specific criteria of my priorities and hectic life.   

Jeff-y you swimming in the Sound on Monday morning?  I'll watch you swim (for no fee).

2011-05-28 6:10 AM
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Today Michele (DDVMM ) is running a 5 mile race to celebrate the 1 year anniversary of her cancer surgery.  If you get a chance, stop by her training and send her some inspire love.
2011-05-28 6:15 AM
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supposed to be doing 5x 5 mile ride/1 mile run, transition training.  woke up with stomach issues, so that is on hold.

this has been a frustrating week between by eye and my stomach today.  really need to practice transitions today, ride Rev3 tomorrow and OWS monday.  sigh.

2011-05-28 6:17 AM
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jsklarz - 2011-05-28 7:05 AM

Shaun - you did not misinterpret my original post.  I think remote coaching is not particularly good.  Remote canned plans with limited support are even worse.  My ideal would be to work with a local coach and meet 3 or so times a week for my key workouts in each sport.  Discuss the workout before (or day before) and discuss how it went after.  This could be done with a group of 5-7 people without issue.  I think a good coach is a great investment for many reasons, plan development, feedback, etc.  I just cannot comprehend of doing it remotely.  All the coach would know is that I am a statistic, that is not how the body works.

Kelly - I am not saying the coach has to be there for every workout, obviously having a coach bike alongside while you do a LSD is not useful.  But, reading the power curve and HR data are not a substitute for the human eye and brain and the feedback a coach can supply never mind the "push" to maximize the WO.  Your point is, otherwise, an excellent reason for having a coach. 

For me, I have spoken with several and basically am told i'll get: a tweaked canned plan, email chat and a weekly call for $200-300/month.  The other thing that drives me bonkers about coaches is that they just dont understand nontraditional enduance athletes who are really really busy. 

In sum, we all have to find what works best for us.  I wish i could find a coach that suited my needs as it would help a lot.  Despite my love of my "nonplan" plans, i would like some better focus to mazimize my time and ability within the extremely specific criteria of my priorities and hectic life.   

Jeff-y you swimming in the Sound on Monday morning?  I'll watch you swim (for no fee).

yupper doodle - come on down, i'll email you the time.

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jsklarz - 2011-05-28 5:15 AM

supposed to be doing 5x 5 mile ride/1 mile run, transition training.  woke up with stomach issues, so that is on hold.

this has been a frustrating week between by eye and my stomach today.  really need to practice transitions today, ride Rev3 tomorrow and OWS monday.  sigh.

I completely understand the frustration. Seems like it is not the big things that get in the way of training, but a bunch of little things that stack up one by one. Hang in there and be patient


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Had my first experience with a group ride this morning.  A friend put it together, and it was very informal and an easy pace.  There were only 7 of us, and two were even more newbies than me. Wasn't much of a pace line, and one guy, who's been riding for several years, was dangerous.  Kept riding out towards the yellow middle line in the road, alone.  WTH is that all about??  No wonder vehicles get pissed at us.  It's from people like that. I did have a few opportunities to try to draft, and totally witnessed the ease of pedaling while drafting.  Looking forward to trying it again, but I may have to be honest with my friend and tell him to advise that other guy to stay out of the road.  Am I wrong on that??????
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Roadkill - bunny, fat nasty black snake, turtle (reason why I usually stop and move them because what turtle can cross the road?) and various unrecognizable animals. Drove to Athens after for lunch and my husband said we passed a dead armadillo. I tried to get him to turn around so I could see and get a photo but he wouldn't.
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rizer22 - 2011-05-28 6:40 PMHad my first experience with a group ride this morning.  A friend put it together, and it was very informal and an easy pace.  There were only 7 of us, and two were even more newbies than me. Wasn't much of a pace line, and one guy, who's been riding for several years, was dangerous.  Kept riding out towards the yellow middle line in the road, alone.  WTH is that all about??  No wonder vehicles get pissed at us.  It's from people like that. I did have a few opportunities to try to draft, and totally witnessed the ease of pedaling while drafting.  Looking forward to trying it again, but I may have to be honest with my friend and tell him to advise that other guy to stay out of the road.  Am I wrong on that??????
No you are not wrong. I'm very non-confrontational but will say something to someone not riding safe or doing something that gives drivers a reason to complain about bikers. You speak up!
2011-05-28 6:50 PM
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today was a total wash, tired and yucky tummy all day.  ate white food.  hopefully i'll feel better in the mrning i am riding rev3 come hell or high water, will bring roll of TP, however
2011-05-28 7:09 PM
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rizer22 - 2011-05-28 6:40 PM Had my first experience with a group ride this morning.  A friend put it together, and it was very informal and an easy pace.  There were only 7 of us, and two were even more newbies than me. Wasn't much of a pace line, and one guy, who's been riding for several years, was dangerous.  Kept riding out towards the yellow middle line in the road, alone.  WTH is that all about??  No wonder vehicles get pissed at us.  It's from people like that. I did have a few opportunities to try to draft, and totally witnessed the ease of pedaling while drafting.  Looking forward to trying it again, but I may have to be honest with my friend and tell him to advise that other guy to stay out of the road.  Am I wrong on that??????

You are absolutely right.  In CT, while bikes are "vehicles" they are still required to stay as far right as safely possibly on the road.  So if the right side of the road is torn up, you can move towards the middle, but if its safe to ride on the right, you need to stay there.



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karen26.2 - 2011-05-28 6:42 PM Roadkill - bunny, fat nasty black snake, turtle (reason why I usually stop and move them because what turtle can cross the road?) and various unrecognizable animals. Drove to Athens after for lunch and my husband said we passed a dead armadillo. I tried to get him to turn around so I could see and get a photo but he wouldn't.

I was wearing a UGA shirt today.  I saw a dead ground hog, a HUGE dead ground hog.  It was sad, made me think of Puxataney Phil and General Beauregard Lee. 

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Had a blast tonight. Went on a trail run in the foothills with a few friends (Rocktracktor, his wife, and another friend). I think I did fairly well for my first effort over there, considering the elevation and such.

Here's my garmin data 

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Wow.  Martini #3 was a bad idea.  Martini #4 was a REALLY bad idea.  Not feeling so hot this morning.....went out for dinner, drinks, and The Hangover 2.  Off to bike to the gym for a recovery swim.  I hope I don't have to stop and puke.  LOL

 

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jsklarz - 2011-05-28 7:50 PM today was a total wash, tired and yucky tummy all day.  ate white food.  hopefully i'll feel better in the mrning i am riding rev3 come hell or high water, will bring roll of TP, however

Hope you feel better today!

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jarvy01 - 2011-05-29 6:32 AM

Wow.  Martini #3 was a bad idea.  Martini #4 was a REALLY bad idea.  Not feeling so hot this morning.....went out for dinner, drinks, and The Hangover 2.  Off to bike to the gym for a recovery swim.  I hope I don't have to stop and puke.  LOL

 

 

THAT. Is awesome. Good for you for getting out.  Totally off subject for BT, but I actually went to see Bridesmaids with the wife.  LMAO the entire time.  Worth seeing, even if you think it is a chic flic.



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jarvy01 - 2011-05-29 6:32 AM

Wow.  Martini #3 was a bad idea.  Martini #4 was a REALLY bad idea.  Not feeling so hot this morning.....went out for dinner, drinks, and The Hangover 2.  Off to bike to the gym for a recovery swim.  I hope I don't have to stop and puke.  LOL

 

One martini and I'd be done, I can't imagine 4.  Hopefully you're not sweating alcohol.

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Up early and worked on cleaning the house the morning.  Now off the bike, then a long run and some OWS in the new full sleeve wetsuit this afternoon.  It'll be interesting to see how my shoulders feel.
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Off day yesterday.  Might get out today on the bike, but we're going to the zoo with the girls and it's supposed to get near 97ish today.  Not sure I'm going to feel like riding today seeing as though I'm already thinking about a nap.

Having my family in town brought up a thought.  Does anyone fall into old, bad habits they thought were long dead when around people from an earlier phase in life or just people who knew you as someone different?  I tend to find myself acting like that fat kid/young adult I was in hs and college.  Very shy and over eating.  Very odd.

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uhcoog - 2011-05-29 7:42 AM

Off day yesterday.  Might get out today on the bike, but we're going to the zoo with the girls and it's supposed to get near 97ish today.  Not sure I'm going to feel like riding today seeing as though I'm already thinking about a nap.

Having my family in town brought up a thought.  Does anyone fall into old, bad habits they thought were long dead when around people from an earlier phase in life or just people who knew you as someone different?  I tend to find myself acting like that fat kid/young adult I was in hs and college.  Very shy and over eating.  Very odd.

You are certainly acting normal. Most of our habits are ingrained by more than just our own thoughts. Many outside factors become triggers to tell the brain to do things. We easily fall into old habits when old triggers are around. They key is to understand exactly what is the trigger (ie comments from family or other dynamics) and then find a different strategy to cope when you feel yourself slipping into where you don't want to be.  In my past life I have a degree in pyschology. But that being said, family is family and hope you just relax and be yourself. I am facing a family reunion next weekend and getting together with sibs I haven't been face to face with in over 25 years so we will see if I can put my money where my mouth is.
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