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 2009-07-09 2:34 PM in reply to: #2273744 |
Member  37  Denial |  Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Threadjboeve - 2009-07-09 2:59 PM If you were to take 2’ 15” of the allotted 2’20” of swim time you would have to swim at a pace of 3:29/100m. Seems doable. Follow that with a leisurely 30” T1 time. Once you hop on your bike you would have 7’ 15” until the 10 hour cut-off hits. So, assume that you take nearly the entire time and finish in 7’ 10”. To do this you ride at a pace of 15.62 MPH. T2 is another 30” break. Then to finish within the 17’ time limit you would have 6’ 35” which breaks down to 15:04/mile. I believe the swim cutoff is 2:15 from the start of the last swimmer, since this is a time-trial start. So if anyone is worried about making that first cutoff, I would be sure to get to the start line-up as early as possible, which might buy you an extra 20 minutes. Grit nugget really got to the nitty-gritty of the course analysis. Glad I asked the question. Thanks, and what GPS/power meter do you use to get such details? I'm impressed. One more question: Around what mile is the Special Needs exchange on the bike? I know it's on the loop somewhere, so we'll pass twice, but don't know where. If it is at mile 56, then we'd see it again at 86, correct? Can you get your bag twice, or is it discarded after you've picked it up once? |
| 2009-07-09 2:49 PM in reply to: #2273910 |
Master 2301  Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread If you check the map. The bike SN is maybe a 200-300 yards after the turn onto 146. Edited by BamaDC 2009-07-09 2:50 PM |
| 2009-07-09 3:38 PM in reply to: #2273969 |
Member 37 Denial | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread BamaDC - 2009-07-09 3:49 PM If you check the map. The bike SN is maybe a 200-300 yards after the turn onto 146. More in defense of my sanity than than questioning you - I see nothing regarding special needs on the map that you linked to. Just the fans' viewing area at LaGrange. Where am I confused? The turn on 146 makes since though, being at around miles 36 and 66 on the loops. Any idea about whether we can access our SN twice? Thanks, |
| 2009-07-09 4:42 PM in reply to: #2274197 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Georgian - 2009-07-09 3:38 PM BamaDC - 2009-07-09 3:49 PM If you check the map. The bike SN is maybe a 200-300 yards after the turn onto 146. More in defense of my sanity than than questioning you - I see nothing regarding special needs on the map that you linked to. Just the fans' viewing area at LaGrange. Where am I confused? The turn on 146 makes since though, being at around miles 36 and 66 on the loops. Any idea about whether we can access our SN twice? Thanks, The map is just a reference. If just said its after you turn on 146, most wouldn't have a clue what I was talking about. But miles 36 and 66 sound about right. Yes, you'll have access to it on both laps. |
| 2009-07-09 4:57 PM in reply to: #2274368 |
Extreme Veteran 427 St. Louis, MO | Subject: Any updated work on the River Road Bridge?? Are we using the "normal" bike course are are we going to have to add the hill in order to avoid the bridge under construction?? |
| 2009-07-09 5:03 PM in reply to: #2274391 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Any updated work on the River Road Bridge?? Tri-Wog StL - 2009-07-09 4:57 PM Are we using the "normal" bike course are are we going to have to add the hill in order to avoid the bridge under construction?? I think Garrett posted an update about the bridge a few pages back. I hope we use the old route(07&08). Edited by BamaDC 2009-07-09 5:04 PM |
| 2009-07-09 6:15 PM in reply to: #2274398 |
Master 1485 | Subject: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread The RD might not even know the offical status of the bike course at this point in time. |
| 2009-07-09 6:26 PM in reply to: #1742108 |
Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Very True. |
| 2009-07-09 6:52 PM in reply to: #2274398 |
Regular 277 Holland, MI | Subject: RE: Any updated work on the River Road Bridge?? BamaDC - 2009-07-09 6:03 PM Tri-Wog StL - 2009-07-09 4:57 PM Are we using the "normal" bike course are are we going to have to add the hill in order to avoid the bridge under construction?? I think Garrett posted an update about the bridge a few pages back. I hope we use the old route(07&08). When we rode the course I thought that the added hill was actually pretty nice. It is a good primer for the course. To address the questions about rollers a page back I would say that if you are used to climbing out of the seat on some pretty steep gradient then rollers will be no problem. For me, the most important thing is just riding the downhill into a roller in an intelligent way (i.e. not waiting too long to start pedaling uphill and then wasting energy, starting to pedal too soon, shifting gears before shift points, etc. etc.). I like rollers b/c like Garrett said, it keeps your attention. |
| 2009-07-09 7:46 PM in reply to: #2274391 |
| New user 8 Louisville | Subject: RE: Any updated work on the River Road Bridge?? I am told the bridge is definatley out for IMKY. A judge has stopped all work while litigation is being resolved. Looks like we climb Wolf Pen Branch Rd. to get to Hwy42. |
| 2009-07-09 8:05 PM in reply to: #2273910 |
Extreme Veteran 495 Horse Country | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Garmin 305, but I uploaded the data to Motion Based which is now transitioning to Garmin Connect. I checked my data from last year and its EXACTLY at 66 miles. I only stopped for it once, would make me nervous if I was planning on getting it twice, because Im not sure how they take care of stuff after its pulled out of the pile. Bridge is definitely out, dont worry about the extra hill, worry about the extra .7 of a mile it adds to the course! Georgian - 2009-07-09 3:34 PM jboeve - 2009-07-09 2:59 PM If you were to take 2’ 15” of the allotted 2’20” of swim time you would have to swim at a pace of 3:29/100m. Seems doable. Follow that with a leisurely 30” T1 time. Once you hop on your bike you would have 7’ 15” until the 10 hour cut-off hits. So, assume that you take nearly the entire time and finish in 7’ 10”. To do this you ride at a pace of 15.62 MPH. T2 is another 30” break. Then to finish within the 17’ time limit you would have 6’ 35” which breaks down to 15:04/mile. I believe the swim cutoff is 2:15 from the start of the last swimmer, since this is a time-trial start. So if anyone is worried about making that first cutoff, I would be sure to get to the start line-up as early as possible, which might buy you an extra 20 minutes. Grit nugget really got to the nitty-gritty of the course analysis. Glad I asked the question. Thanks, and what GPS/power meter do you use to get such details? I'm impressed. One more question: Around what mile is the Special Needs exchange on the bike? I know it's on the loop somewhere, so we'll pass twice, but don't know where. If it is at mile 56, then we'd see it again at 86, correct? Can you get your bag twice, or is it discarded after you've picked it up once? |
| 2009-07-09 8:27 PM in reply to: #2273204 |
Veteran 269 Macon, GA | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread I got this email today regarding Mike reilly.... Hi John, Thank you for your interest in Ironman! Dave Ragdale will be the announcer at the 2009 Ford Ironman Louisville. Kindest Regards, Ann
Ann SkerkoskiAthlete Services Coordinator – Ironman 2701 North Rocky Point Drive Suite 1250 Tampa, Florida 33607 (813) 868-5915 Hi John, Thank you for your interest in Ironman! Dave Ragdale will be the announcer at the 2009 Ford Ironman Louisville. Kindest Regards, Ann
Ann SkerkoskiAthlete Services Coordinator – Ironman 2701 North Rocky Point Drive Suite 1250 Tampa, Florida 33607 (813) 868-5915 |
| 2009-07-09 8:37 PM in reply to: #2274833 |
Expert 713 Lake in the Hills, IL | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread tridawg72 - 2009-07-09 8:27 PM I got this email today regarding Mike reilly.... Hi John, Thank you for your interest in Ironman! Dave Ragdale will be the announcer at the 2009 Ford Ironman Louisville. Kindest Regards, Ann
Ann SkerkoskiAthlete Services Coordinator – Ironman 2701 North Rocky Point Drive Suite 1250 Tampa, Florida 33607 (813) 868-5915 Hi John, Thank you for your interest in Ironman! Dave Ragdale will be the announcer at the 2009 Ford Ironman Louisville. Kindest Regards, Ann
Ann SkerkoskiAthlete Services Coordinator – Ironman 2701 North Rocky Point Drive Suite 1250 Tampa, Florida 33607 (813) 868-5915 That sucks I was really hoping for Mike. |
| 2009-07-11 12:58 PM in reply to: #1742108 |
Extreme Veteran 464 Louisville, KY | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread I'm not racing in this but volunteering, and I get email updates every so often. I got one today that says that the new website is almost 100% complete, and that its even got the change in the bike course on it. Just thought I would pass this along because I've seen a few posts and questions about the bike course. www.ironmanlouisville.com. Best of luck to all of you. Hope to meet more than a few of you there. |
| 2009-07-11 3:45 PM in reply to: #1742108 |
Regular 255 PA | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Thank You!!! I was wondering when we were getting a website! |
 2009-07-11 3:57 PM in reply to: #1742108 |
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| 2009-07-11 4:03 PM in reply to: #2278338 |
| Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread PennState - 2009-07-11 3:57 PM Hey someone on slowtwitch was saying that they are letting in close to 3,000 athletes for the event. Can anyone confirm this? Yep, Mike called a while back. With the TT start they could raise the cap. |
| 2009-07-11 6:39 PM in reply to: #1742108 |
| Regular 255 PA | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Does anyone know who the race director is? |
| 2009-07-12 8:38 AM in reply to: #2278344 |
| Extreme Veteran 725 | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread BamaDC - 2009-07-11 5:03 PM PennState - 2009-07-11 3:57 PM Hey someone on slowtwitch was saying that they are letting in close to 3,000 athletes for the event. Can anyone confirm this? Yep, Mike called a while back. With the TT start they could raise the cap.
That is a lot of people!! I thought there were some areas on the course that were crowded last year. Not sure this was a good idea. |
| 2009-07-12 10:51 AM in reply to: #2279011 |
| Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread amymengel - 2009-07-12 8:38 AM BamaDC - 2009-07-11 5:03 PM PennState - 2009-07-11 3:57 PM Hey someone on slowtwitch was saying that they are letting in close to 3,000 athletes for the event. Can anyone confirm this? Yep, Mike called a while back. With the TT start they could raise the cap.
That is a lot of people!! I thought there were some areas on the course that were crowded last year. Not sure this was a good idea. I believe they account for 20% DNS rate. Last year over 2400 were registered and less than 2000 started the race. So, if they think a course can hold 2500 and they predict a 20% DNS rate, then why not raise the cap on the race to 3000+. Its easy math. 500 extra racers x 525 entry fee = 262,500 Dollars + the interest that they get over a year = $$$$$. Edited by BamaDC 2009-07-12 10:51 AM |
| 2009-07-12 11:06 AM in reply to: #2279011 |
| New user 3 Louisvillle, KY | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread With a lot of folks out there, I guess it could get interesting going out and back on KY-1694. Since it's my first IM, I will stay out of the way of you more experienced long course athletes. I get a lot of mental strength from seeing people out there sweating and grunting along like me, so in general I don't mind more people. Since I get to ride the IM course because I live in Louisville, I'll let the out of town people know that the bridge at the bottom of the hills on KY-1694 is a little rough with newly placed asphalt patches over 1/2 to 1 inch deep holes on the concrete bridge. Also, I don't see how they will ever be able to re-open the bridge over Harrods creek on River Road in time, so I am counting on the doing the hills on Wolf Pen Branch road, and US 42. The rest of the road surface on the course hasn't changed much since last year when I did the Cardinal Harbor half IM distance. I am concerned about standing around a long time waiting for the swim start. Any thoughts on that? My buddy who did this in 2007 said the start went fairly smoothly, and he was in the water by 0730. That doesn't seem possible with 3000 people though. Any guidance on how the swim start gets set up? |
| 2009-07-12 2:17 PM in reply to: #2279114 |
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| 2009-07-12 3:38 PM in reply to: #2279129 |
| Extreme Veteran 725 | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread egerrybarker - 2009-07-12 12:06 PM With a lot of folks out there, I guess it could get interesting going out and back on KY-1694. Since it's my first IM, I will stay out of the way of you more experienced long course athletes. I get a lot of mental strength from seeing people out there sweating and grunting along like me, so in general I don't mind more people. Since I get to ride the IM course because I live in Louisville, I'll let the out of town people know that the bridge at the bottom of the hills on KY-1694 is a little rough with newly placed asphalt patches over 1/2 to 1 inch deep holes on the concrete bridge. Also, I don't see how they will ever be able to re-open the bridge over Harrods creek on River Road in time, so I am counting on the doing the hills on Wolf Pen Branch road, and US 42. The rest of the road surface on the course hasn't changed much since last year when I did the Cardinal Harbor half IM distance. I am concerned about standing around a long time waiting for the swim start. Any thoughts on that? My buddy who did this in 2007 said the start went fairly smoothly, and he was in the water by 0730. That doesn't seem possible with 3000 people though. Any guidance on how the swim start gets set up?
The swim start actually went smooth. Single file into the water. The line goes rather fast. Some people will line up very early and not even check their bikes one last time in transition. Other people will line up last. I was in the middle of the pack lat year. I didn't see any real advantage of being up toward the front. There were some issues with people jumping line and cutting (jerks), but it didn't really matter. Your time starts when you enter the water. |
| 2009-07-12 3:47 PM in reply to: #2279415 |
| Master 2301 Rogersville, Alabama | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread amymengel - 2009-07-12 3:38 PM egerrybarker - 2009-07-12 12:06 PM With a lot of folks out there, I guess it could get interesting going out and back on KY-1694. Since it's my first IM, I will stay out of the way of you more experienced long course athletes. I get a lot of mental strength from seeing people out there sweating and grunting along like me, so in general I don't mind more people. Since I get to ride the IM course because I live in Louisville, I'll let the out of town people know that the bridge at the bottom of the hills on KY-1694 is a little rough with newly placed asphalt patches over 1/2 to 1 inch deep holes on the concrete bridge. Also, I don't see how they will ever be able to re-open the bridge over Harrods creek on River Road in time, so I am counting on the doing the hills on Wolf Pen Branch road, and US 42. The rest of the road surface on the course hasn't changed much since last year when I did the Cardinal Harbor half IM distance. I am concerned about standing around a long time waiting for the swim start. Any thoughts on that? My buddy who did this in 2007 said the start went fairly smoothly, and he was in the water by 0730. That doesn't seem possible with 3000 people though. Any guidance on how the swim start gets set up?
The swim start actually went smooth. Single file into the water. The line goes rather fast. Some people will line up very early and not even check their bikes one last time in transition. Other people will line up last. I was in the middle of the pack lat year. I didn't see any real advantage of being up toward the front. There were some issues with people jumping line and cutting (jerks), but it didn't really matter. Your time starts when you enter the water. Actually the timing mat in on the dock about 15-20 feet before you get into the water. After you go over the timing mat you hang a right and its about 10 feet to the end of the dock. That would explain the difference in my watch time and chip time last year. |
| 2009-07-12 6:33 PM in reply to: #2279415 |
| New user 3 Louisvillle, KY | Subject: RE: Ironman Louisville : Official Thread Thanks for the head's up about the swim start. It doesn't sound too bad. |
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