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BDAS GOAL CHART FOR 8/19/13

DQ - 1) 3 runs, 2) 2 bikes, 3) Avoid injury, 4, post to BT everyday, 5) count calories 5 out of 7 days. My reward - I will brew a tasty batch of beer this weekend.

Uh...I don't even have to think about it. This Mississippi boy would say the H-E-double hockey sticks out of that water!

Good run! Hope you have a great time!

Thanks Dave. As for my next race, that is my dilemma. There's only one more tri in Mississippi and I'm not going to be able to do it. I guess I'm done until next year. Its kind of put me in the dumps this past week. I feel real good about my race last week. I met all of my goals I set for it. Right now I'm trying to get my head wrapped around on what I need to do throughout my off-season. I'm considering emphasizing my run this fall to hopefully improve it. The wife and I are looking for a fall half marathon to shoot for. Thats a big deal for me. I don't think I've ever run more that 7 miles at one time. She did her first HM last fall. She's coming back from injury but will be fine by race time. Beyond training for a HM, I'm still not sure how best to train going forward. I need to find a place to swim occasionally this fall/winter and possibly buy a trainer for my bike. LOTS to consider and plan for. I really would like to do a HIM sometime next year. May be a pipe dream but I sure would like to give it a try! As always, any adice is welcome and appreciated.

Good to hear from you. Good luck getting back to it! Take care and stay healthy!

Bill

Edited by Burd 2013-08-19 3:38 AM

Welcome back David! A few of us decided to restart all of our training back to square 1 since we are all battling different things so we can all do this together. Where is Lenny with that size 14 when we need him

Thanks Dave. As for my next race, that is my dilemma. There's only one more tri in Mississippi and I'm not going to be able to do it. I guess I'm done until next year. Its kind of put me in the dumps this past week. I feel real good about my race last week. I met all of my goals I set for it. Right now I'm trying to get my head wrapped around on what I need to do throughout my off-season. I'm considering emphasizing my run this fall to hopefully improve it. The wife and I are looking for a fall half marathon to shoot for. Thats a big deal for me. I don't think I've ever run more that 7 miles at one time. She did her first HM last fall. She's coming back from injury but will be fine by race time. Beyond training for a HM, I'm still not sure how best to train going forward. I need to find a place to swim occasionally this fall/winter and possibly buy a trainer for my bike. LOTS to consider and plan for. I really would like to do a HIM sometime next year. May be a pipe dream but I sure would like to give it a try! As always, any adice is welcome and appreciated.

Good to hear from you. Good luck getting back to it! Take care and stay healthy!

Bill

I was almost ready to do the same but for me I wanted to add in a road race and a tri bike isn't allowed so that made up my decision until I can swing both. The P2 is a sexy ride and the '12 has the upgraded bars from the '11 and the '13. Ask where you see yourself in 2 years riding and if it's solo with just doing triathlons then go for it. Make sure the bike is a good fit first.

Me personally I would stay with the roadie and add clip-ons since you have a really nice bike unless I wasn't doing groups then I would jump all over a P2.

Just my 2 cents and I'm usually wrong (just ask the misses she'll tell you the same )

I am, and have always been a planner.... The more I plan - the less nervous I get about big events coming up in my life. My approach to triathlon is no different. I spend weeks each December thinking about the upcoming season thinking up lofty goals... So I have spent the last week thinking about how I am going to approach the next year after having such an abysmal 9 months plagued with unmet expectations and injuries. Earlier today - I posted the following note to the Iron Distance Forum:

Here's the situation - I have decided to race Rev 3 Cedar Point next September and would like to get some advice on which plan to follow with the goals of 1) avoiding injury during training and 2) finishing.

I know I have plenty of time but I've been bitten by the injury bug (PF, ITB, disc issues) and I want to do things differently with the hopes of avoiding injury. I've always been a dive right into it and hope for the best but I'm hoping that better planning on my part will help me. Just so you know, I'm a teacher on sabbatical next year so I can't afford a coach.

I've been looking at Be Iron Fit and the free program on this site. Which program should I go with that will allow me to avoid injury (I'm leaning toward BIF because of the reduced milage).

Thoughts? Any suggestions would be fantastic.

Many thanks!
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Having posted (and let me say that I felt like an impostor posting a thread in the Ironman forum) - it occurs to me that what I really need to do is to be iron focused (pun intended ) on 1 goal and that is finishing the IM. All the thought I am giving to finishing times and other minutia is pointless if I don;t make it to the starting line.

It's funny - I feel like I should be ready to do this but the more I think about starting to prepare for an IM- the more I realize that I have no idea what I am doing. So - what should I do? I want to create a week by week plan with two purposes - avoid injury and finish the race. So where should I start?

I'm in the same boat as you are, and I've been considering a lot of options.

For 2014, the end-all-be-all is Ironman Wisconsin. It's time to HTFU and earn that tattoo. Everything, everything is about IMWI.

Then, I start looking at other races: Rev3 Knoxville in May (half or oly; hilly; near family), Rev3 Williamsburg in June (half, oly; flat; near family), IM Racine in July (half, flat, less than an hour from home), Rev3 Dells in August (oly or half, hilly).

Personally, I'd love to do all four at half distance, but I don't know if that is practical, feasible, safe, or wise. Add in 36 weeks of training, leaves me starting in December, presuming I train into the Dells and then go into maintenance/recovery for the four weeks between Dells and IMWI.

So, from here, race this weekend, run run run until the Marathon in October, chill out for October, then base build until the plan starts in December.

Also, BOOOOOO on you for doing Cedar Point. That race is on my bucket list, and it conflicts with IMWI. Come volunteer at my aid station on 9/8 and we'll run IMWI together

For me, my biggest barrier is going to be staying on track. I'm having so much trouble in the diet department, and staying focused. My long runs aren't happening due to the boredom, and I don't have anyone to train with right now. It really sucks - my masters group is on hiatus until late September, and my cycling group is taking a back seat to my running now; even then, the folks I ride with and swim with are all in their mid 40's, and I'm 29, so it's really hard to make friends - I still feel like an outsider. Everyone in my age bracket is either working themselves to death 90 hours per week, or living in trendy parts of the city, or has kids. 2.5 hour runs are so damn boring.



I've been looking at coaching a little bit, and I was referred to a local couple that I need to contact to see what they offer and the price-point.

For you, given the injury history, I think a lot of it will be reducing or skimping on the high intensity stuff, and spending four or eight months or so just base-building. It's not fun or sexy, but it works.

I actually had really good results in a sprint last year following a free program from the site (Although I thought that running this support group got you the higher level programs and online coaching free...)

It really made me ratchet back on days that I would have pushed too hard and I think got me to the race un-injured and feeling ready. (I did a custom one since the sprint I did had an 18m bike.) So I would definitely recommend those!

I think if you want to plan- plan a bunch of stepping stone races to keep you on track and accountable. My sprint was actually a stepping stone that I planned for my Xterra that I ended up having to bail on. I think I felt a lot better bailing on it having gotten to participate in so many stepping stone races along the way. They also gave me a lot of confidence that my training plan was really working and I was getting where I needed to go.

The weird karmic thing is that I ended up racing my last year's goal race this year (I had not signed up since they moved it to June and the water sounded too cold, but my husband signed up- then a forest fire burned down all of the bridges on the course so they postponed it to Aug. Then my husband broke his hand 2 weeks out and I took his entry and finished my New Year's Resolution 1 year late.) Overall I can't believe the experiences I have had in the past year and a half after setting that goal on New Year's Eve. So overall I really feel like I won even though I didn't hit my goal as planned.

So, I think put a good plan together - with mini milestones (races) along the way and enjoy the journey. You will get there eventually.

Many plans out there. When I did my only tri, HIM, I used the beginner HIM plan on this site. Great. I was prepared in all aspects s/b/r and transition, +nutrition, with a few fish chomps, I exceeded expectations. I could only imagin the IM plan to be great. The Be Iron Fit plans look really good as well. I like that it has you racing a HIM a couple months out. I know when I finished HIM, I was ready for IM, I just didn't keep going.
I think the key for you David is going to be the training consistently, 2x per week each discipline for month after month. take it slow, keep the intensity low, and you'll build a healthy base under you that will push you into the longer training sessions of months 3-5. Stick with whichever plan you choose, BT or Iron Fit, and don't sweat the small stuff. I'm pumped for your journey. Your going to be an Iron Man!

Thanks for all the suggestions about training plans. You have all made some great points and I am really thankful to have you in my corner. I posted in the Iron Distance Forum and while 40 people looked at it, I got 1 brief reply that said to stretch and lift weights (which is good advice). Such a dearth of advice there really makes me thankful for all you BDASers.

Having thought about it for 12 hours (oh no, I'm not compulsive )... I think I have a better understanding of exactly what I am looking for. I'm looking for a plan that is explicit in its directions so as to prevent me from injuring myself with my "more is better" paradigm. Do you know the quote by Calvin Colledge about persistence - I literally live by its last two lines. "Persistence and determination alone are omnipotent. The slogan press on has and always will solve the problems of the human race." I put everything into every workout as I do in all aspects of my life. Unfortunately, I am my own worst enemy. While my ethos has allowed me to accomplish great things - it has led to more suffering and failures than successes.

So as I approach this goal, I am looking for a plan that's Dave Proof. I know that my compulsiveness will help keep me in line (no dave - today is a slow day, you do not need to see how fast you can bike home. No Dave, you don't need to set PR for running up this hill. No dave,, you only need to swim a mile. It wouldn't be cooler to see if you can swim twice as far (these are actual conversations). This plan, if it exits will make injury prevention a priority (weight training, stretching, yoga, diet, icing, and rest (what's that?) will be integral components). Since I just want to finish - this will do the calculus for me (since biking has less of a chance of injury, you should focus more on that and do this harder workout on the bike and easier running workout to avoid injury and make it to the finish line.

The more I think about it - the closest thing to this would be a personal coach but being on sabbatical makes that an impossible dream.

Any advice would be super appreciated! I'll even root for your team during the preseason like I did last night with Kevin's Red Skins (it wasn't hard - they were playing the Steelers : )

Thanks!

While you have proven that you have no taste in cheering against my steelers(cleveland? really?) and drinking fruit beers, I will say that you have the drive to complete anything you put your mind to!

First off, while being on sabbatical keeps you from having a personal coach, it also allows you to actually train and complete an ironman. I am going under the assumption that this decision was done family style...right?!?!

Find a plan that you feel comfortable with and adjust it to where you like it! You have a ton of time to prepare for it so feel free to repeat weaks where necessary. BUILD your base slowly and the rest will come. Looking forward to hearing about the good, the bad and the ugly!

In honor of you Charles, I broke down and got a 6 of OKTO from Widmer Bros. Brewing. Decent. I am a hop guy, but I can diversify.

Day 7 tomorrow. I was able to move to 4x8 sets for the next 2 weeks. Already have some pretty lofty goals for my lifts. Ran a 6:56 mile today, and will finish my last house of the summer tomorrow and put some funds in the account. Life is sweet.

Thor - A few things... First off - it doesn't surprise me that with your love for second rate beers like Molson (owned by none other than Coors) you would route for a has been team like the Steelers. Second - the decision was mutual to do the IM. In fact my wife is so supportive and awesome that not only did she urge me to do it but she actually sees the hand of god in the decision to complete one. Like I have always said, I am a lucky man. Finally - I agree wit you about taking the time to build up my base but I have never been good at taking it easy. I need to learn that less is more.

My hip is sore so I'm going to go slow on the run tomorrow. On Sunday, I did intervals of 1 run/3 walk. Tomorrow, I will try 1 run/5 minute walk and then I will ice and stretch like it's my job.

I'm drinking a delicious schwartz beer from Devil's Backbone Brewing Co. Never underestimate the power of the Schwartz!

I got the run in this morning knowing that it probably wouldn't happen if I waited until I got home from shopping with my wife (we are driving up to pentagon city mall - for those of you familiar with the 95 corridor, I don't know what will be worse the shopping or sitting around in traffic.). I even managed to drag my oldest son out with me, which is something that doesn't happen often and that I hope continues.

With my hip still bugging me - I got in my 30 minutes, I just walked more. I just finished stretching and I hope some ice will help.

What is everyone else up to today?

Speaking of up to - how is everyone doing on their goals?

Way to get out there and get it done!