Attention Christian Triathletes! (Page 5)
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() but it is not OK to openly be a Christian? Correct. It's actually frowned upon by your religion. That got lost in the need to promote religion in order to sustain it as a business. And it is big business. The thing that kills me is that when you put the word Christian on something, the 'crap' meters get turned off. Take Christian Rock. In the real world these bands aren't good enough to play a backyard BBQ. Put Christian in the name and now they're doing stadiums. They all stink. Same is true of books, trinkets, etc. Just cause a Tri calls itself Christian doesn't mean its good. Could be a fine event. but why do we need to call it Christian, especially if it benefits a non-profit charity? Call it after the charity. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() ChuckyFinster - 2005-08-12 10:04 AM One of my favorite essays (Rand). I dedicate this to DoveCom. Thanks. It's a great piece about why man does not need God in order to feel confident and secure. I like it. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dovecom - 2005-08-12 6:48 PM but it is not OK to openly be a Christian? Correct. It's actually frowned upon by your religion. That got lost in the need to promote religion in order to sustain it as a business. And it is big business. The thing that kills me is that when you put the word Christian on something, the 'crap' meters get turned off. Take Christian Rock. In the real world these bands aren't good enough to play a backyard BBQ. Put Christian in the name and now they're doing stadiums. They all stink. Same is true of books, trinkets, etc. Just cause a Tri calls itself Christian doesn't mean its good. Could be a fine event. but why do we need to call it Christian, especially if it benefits a non-profit charity? Call it after the charity.No, it's NOT frowned on my religion. I don't know where your contempt and bitterness come from, but it's really offensive. You seem to be a really miserable bitter person, and in need of some serious help. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() rnspamela - 2005-08-12 8:53 PM No, it's NOT frowned on my religion. I don't know where your contempt and bitterness come from, but it's really offensive. You seem to be a really miserable bitter person, and in need of some serious help. I suggest you spend a little time in Matthew 6 this Sunday. I suppose the fact that I don't subscribe to your belief system automatically makes it impossible for you to imagine I could be happy. but when you take responsibility for your own happiness and stop blaming or praising an imaginary being for it, well that's pretty liberating. I assume many of you believe I am just ignorant of Christianity, but you couldn't be more wrong. You can't dismiss something until you've investigated and lived every angle of it. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dovecom - 2005-08-12 8:48 PM Take Christian Rock. In the real world these bands aren't good enough to play a backyard BBQ. Put Christian in the name and now they're doing stadiums. They all stink. Same is true of books, trinkets, etc. . This is all so silly, but I'll keep biting: Back yard BBQ's, or stadium, this IS the real world for many people. Why is it so hard for you to just let it be? And as far as music "stinking" I guess there's no room for perosnal taste in your world. Listen to yourself! "They all stink." How silly! I really love a Christian band called Third Day. Phil Keaggy is an outstanding guitar player. Check 'em out, they play a lot of really great stuff. And as far as the openly Christian thing, and your suggestion to go read Matthew, do you really think all of the people (wasting our time trying to have a reasonable dialogue here) have never read Matthew? (in fact, Matthew 28:19,20 supports the evangelical call) A lot of us also read St. Paul. And the rest of the Bible. And we have studied with scholars who DO read Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew who have helped us understand the cultural context for certain books and sections. And we use the beautiful inteligence that God gave us to work it out. I loathe taking things out of context in the Bible, it makes haters out of all of us, but Jesus tells us not only to be open, but to evangelize. (it's not my thing, but I get it, and respect if if it is done respectfully) Mark 16:15 Romans 10:14,15 Acts 1:8 Y'know, dovecom, the more disrespectful and abrasive you are, the more you do your "cause" an injustice. Chill. Leave us alone. Don't support Christian triathlons. Let us enjoy and grow in our fellowship. I am absoluitely NOT evangelizing here, nor suggesting you become Christian or any of that. I totally respect your right to worship or not as you see fit. No other Christian on this thread has tried to do any of that here. All we want to do is connect with one another and worship together doing something we love. The thread title clearly seeks Christians, not "those who we want to convert..." Why are you so insistent upon not respecting us? It is clear you have had bad experiences with Christians before- No kidding, we all have, I REALLY have, but this is SO not the thread for that. |
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Giver![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() betsybromley - 2005-08-13 7:31 PM I will regret this post I am sure but it seems to me that those who call themselves christians usually throw the first stones condeming those who do not agree or do as they see fit. Ok I am sure what I will get is they are not real christians or a view that will make sense to many. What I hope everyone remembers is that we are all human Jews, Cathloics, Christians, Budists, Mullums, Athiests, ect...... could go on forever.... Lets be tolorant, kind and compassionate and not tell others how to live their lives. Where in this thread has anyone (except maybe dovecom) told anyone how to lead their lives? Obviously I agree that judgement and Chistianity are antithetical, but I don't see a lot of judging going on here (except maybe for dovecom). Or maybe those are just general observations... For most of those posting here (except for maybe dovecom), I can pretty safely say that we're an extremely tolerant group. I dare you, actually, to find a more tolerant forum out there. But maybe I missed something... |
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![]() | ![]() It's heartening to see so many people, both christians and atheists, passionate about getting to the Truth. Having been an atheist, and now a christian, I'm in agreement with parts of both "sides" of the issue. The problem for me with this ongoing cultural arguement is precisely the fact that people tend to take "sides" in it. In my experience, Faith and Reason are both needed to get close to the Truth. They are two wings of the same bird. If you clip off the wing of Reason, Faith risks turning merely into myth. Clip off the wing of Faith, and Reason runs into the limits of objectivism and positivism. Man tries to become God and ends up alone, looking at himself in the mirror. Either way, with only one wing, this bird will eventually smack into the ground of its own making. So for me its: Faith And Reason Science And Theology The Rational And The Poetic Edited by dontracy 2005-08-14 8:21 AM |
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