What is considered a fast/avg 100 yard swim? (Page 5)

Are you saying no one should do open turns, or something else?  I don't understand.  BTW, when I say good open turn, I'm talking about a fast breast stroke or fly turn.  Is there another kind?

I figure if I'm the same speed but five years older that's a good thing. 

Mark

I will throw my hate in the ring....I might be a little different though, at least that is what my mom says that I am just special/different.

I grew up swimming, started competative when I was 4 yrs old.  Swam through High School and was part of a state record holding relay team, all 4 of us were swimming 25-27sec 50 yard times.  When I was in High School my fastest 100M free time was 56 seconds.  The 100M Fly was 1:05.  That was when I was swimming 6 days a week, practice 5 and meet on 6th. 

My times now for triathlons go as this...Pool swim I average 1:25-1:30/100m, open water I average 1:40-1:45/100m.  My last HIM swim was a 1:43/100m which was 10th out of 32 in my age group and 76th out of 441 overall.

You were on a relay and had 4 guys swimming 25-27 seconds per 50 and that was a State Record?  What state was that might I ask?  We've got 10-12 year old boys in my area that swim way faster than that.

Maybe but here in the US we swim almost all HS meets that matter in Yards.  Same with college.  Not trying to bash the guy just trying to understand.  

It was South Carolina.  It was in 2000 when we broke it and it has since been broken.  Doing the math a 25sec 50yd for 4 guys is a 1:40 200yd relay so you are right...so maybe we were fast than that...I remember the 200 yd time being near 1:30 from what I remember.  I will have to ask my brother-in-law, he was on the team with me and might have a better memory than me...

Correct, in HS it was yards, summer league was meters.

Got ya.  Just putting things in perspective and remembering that speed is all relative.  Here are the Nat AG HS Records as they stand today...A few of these set this year including the 500 free time.  

Slowest guy on any of the relays was 20.9 and fastest was 19.4... Like I said and it speaks to the original question of what's fast.  Fast is all relative I guess.  

http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/results/records/USA_High_School_Records.pdf

Yeah that is freaking fast!!!  Agree with you that it is relative to where you are as well.  Little ol SC can't compete with states like FL.  We did race against one kid though who qualified for the olympic trials...it sucked to race against him...we all raced for 2nd when we were in his heat...

Are you insane?

Ahem:

That comment was tongue and cheek, but yes, if you aspire to be a better swimmer, then you learn how to turn.  Fast cyclists don't ride in running shoes and fast swimmers don't do open turns. That's not to say you have to start somewhere, because we all started there, but if that's where you stop.....

I'm not a doctor, but I would say yes.

What state record was that?  I also swam in high school and obviously we competed at many of the same meets.  I swam for Lexington High School outside of Columbia from 1997-1999.  I was part of a free relay that went faster that what you are saying your team averaged but it may not have been a high school record you are talking about.  I looked on the state high school league website and unfortunately the latest results they show are for the year after I graduated but the 200yd free relay champion that year was from my high school at 1:30:56 which is about a 22.5 50.  The relay team I was on in 1998 was definitely faster than the 2001 team but I can't find our final times. 

In high school I was swimming in the high 22 second range for a 50yd race and generally that placed me in the top 10 of the state but not close to the top 3.  My fastest 100 fly was a high 56 my senior year which netted me 5th in the state.

oh, and to the OP (which is probably so old no one is reading) if you can average under a 1:30/100 yd average on a HIM or longer you will generally be up front in your age group.  I did a HIM 2 weekends ago and swam a 32 including the run up to transition.  I was 2nd ag out of the water and around 15 overall.  In olympic swims I need to average around a 1:25/100 to place in the same area.  Sprint times in pools tend to be whoever starts first finishes with the fastest time because passing is so hard.  I usually seed with a 1:20/100 pool swim of 400-600 yds and will be one of the first 5 off and many time the first swimmer in the water based on seeded times.