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2011-03-27 8:10 PM
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Make sure you are ready for a non wetsuit legal swim. The lake temps have come up two degrees in two days. At this rate I will be surprised if the swim is wetsuit legal. USAT's new ruling is 76 degrees or below.

 

You would be surprised if the swim is wetsuit legal?  I don't see that lake hitting 76 degrees by race time. 

I am not sure where you were going with you comment but you appear to be located in Dallas, Tx? Correct me if I am wrong, please do.  We have had consistent high temps. in the 80s. I have been watching the Lake P water temps daily. I have seen them rise pretty quickly. Not to mention I was stationed on Lake P for three years with the U.S. Coast Guard. I have Lake do some pretty sporadic things.

I hope the swim is wetsuit legal. Sounds to me like you are not prepared for a 1.2 mile swim minus a wetsuit.

If the race is wetsuit legal, I will buy you beer after the race.

NOAA is reporting a water temp of 73.2

Lumncon is reporting a water temp of 76.4 Wow look at that the water temp is over 76.1 degrees, INTERESTING!   

I have attached two links associated with the water temps in Lake P as of today.

http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/station_page.php?station=nwcl1

http://weather.lumcon.edu/stationdata.asp?stationid=103

 

2011-03-28 7:15 AM
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Being from IL its crazy to see water temps come up like that, pretty interesting. Does anyone know how deep these readings are being taken?  I could be wrong but on race day don't they measure like 6 feet down?  Thanks for all the updates guys!!
2011-03-28 9:10 AM
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Can anyone help me clarify whether I understand the below rule correctly.

If one decides to wear their wetsuit between the 76 - 83 degree temperature range, do they still get an official time and not a DQ? I understand the reasons for not being elibigle for rewards or qualifying times for other events but was curious if they still post your splits.

Offfical Rule :

Wetsuits may be worn in water temperatures up to and including 24.5 degrees Celsius/76.1 degrees Fahrenheit. Athletes who choose to wear a wetsuit in water temperatures between 24.5 degrees Celsius/76.1 degrees Fahrenheit and 28.8 degrees Celsius/ 83.8 degrees Fahrenheit will not be eligible for awards, including World Championship slots. Wetsuits will be prohibited in water temperature greater than 28.8 degrees Celsius/ 83.8 degrees Fahrenheit.

Thanks for any clarification.

 

2011-03-28 9:38 AM
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You may wear the wetsuit up to 83 degrees. You will not be eligible for any awards if you wear the wetsuit past 76.1 degrees.

My intention here is not to cause any confusion. I  was just trying to inform everyone here what the current water temps were. Just a heads up.

2011-03-28 9:44 AM
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I agree, it is pretty crazy to see water temps come up so quick. The average depth in the Lake P is 14 feet. The average depth where the swim course is located is about 6 feet.

Official USAT Water Temp Rules

Because the water temp is a big topic right now, here is the official USAT rule on measuring water temp. Remember, wet suits are legal to 76.1 degrees.

It is recommended, but not required that the water temperature for a race be finally determined by a measurement made within 2 hours of the race start. Measurements should be made in at least three locations on the swim course, spaced so as to divide the entire swim course into approximately equidistant segments, and measured at a depth of 18 inches below the surface of the water, at points where direct sunlight can strike the water. The water temperature for the race should be determined by averaging the three temperature measurements taken. A water temperature measurement should also be taken prior to any pre-race meetings in order to forecast to the athletes as early as possible the likely water temperature on race day and the likelihood of whether wet suits will be allowed on race day.
 
2011-03-28 10:35 AM
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Prolite, thanks for all the info!!!!

Now your talking, when I think of a 30 mile lake, I figure big deep ugly.  If that baby is only 14 foot avg, and only 6 foot where we swim, that makes sense.

I'd heard a few others wondering about the ruling.  Some people who won't win an award anyway, would they still get a finish time/medal/etc.

2011-03-28 11:29 AM
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I don't know much about Lake P, but I would believe that the RD will do his/her best to ensure wet suits.  They make the swim that much safer (having some bouyancy.)  Last year in Kansas, the water was very warm, and they found water cool enough to keep it wet suit legal.   I'll only worry about it the morning of the race.  Even if they are not legal, it'll be nice to see open water.  We are still iced over in MN. 
2011-03-29 12:05 AM
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jrondorf - 2011-03-28 11:29 AM I don't know much about Lake P, but I would believe that the RD will do his/her best to ensure wet suits.  They make the swim that much safer (having some bouyancy.)  Last year in Kansas, the water was very warm, and they found water cool enough to keep it wet suit legal.   I'll only worry about it the morning of the race.  Even if they are not legal, it'll be nice to see open water.  We are still iced over in MN. 

 

I would have to disagree. If  the race director's practices the above method, they are putting many people at risk of overheating in the water. I would say anything above 76.1 is really to warm to wear a wetsuit. 

The main point here is make sure you are prepared for a 1.2 mile swim without a wetsuit. USAT puts restrictions in place mainly to protect the athlete.

2011-03-30 10:17 AM
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2011-03-30 3:12 PM
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jrondorf - 2011-03-28 11:29 AM I don't know much about Lake P, but I would believe that the RD will do his/her best to ensure wet suits.  They make the swim that much safer (having some bouyancy.)  Last year in Kansas, the water was very warm, and they found water cool enough to keep it wet suit legal.   I'll only worry about it the morning of the race.  Even if they are not legal, it'll be nice to see open water.  We are still iced over in MN. 

They usually do.  My last HIM in October (Longhorn 70.3) seemed really warm, but they found the right spots in the water to make it legal.  I heard the same story about Kansas.  We'll see, but I would still bet it's legal.  Just a hunch.       

2011-03-31 7:31 PM
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Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.

Running late on my bike workouts so one more long ride/run and I am done.

2011-03-31 11:23 PM
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2011-04-01 7:05 PM
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Getting close.  I have a 100 mile ride tomorrow, 13 mile run on Sunday then my mileage will taper a bit for the bike and run, but keeping the swimming up.  And yea a 100 mile ride is overkill but the people I ride with are getting ready for IMTX.

Let's go get em!

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2011-04-01 7:34 PM
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Yup. I've got a 90/5 and 3000/20/16 planned for Sat and Sun.  I get the pleasure of a 14 hour week up until Friday of the race.  Seems strange that a HIM is just a long training day.  CdA in less than 90 days.   Woot.  Oh, and the water temps between 5-7am look about like they always do this time of year.  Don't leave your suit at home.       
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Hi so I am shipping my bike  through either UPS or fed-ex. Do I ship to my hotel and only release with my signature or ship to a Fed-ex or UPS store
2011-04-04 9:52 AM
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If it was me I would ship it in and out of a LBS.   

2011-04-05 8:03 PM
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Last long ride and run completed.  Actually last killer swim done too.  Not quite taper but cutting back a bit as there are races after new Orleans.

Any latest on the water temp?  Last night Coach was telling us it's getting warm......

enjoy,

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What is everyones weekend looking like.  I haven't trained specifically for New Orleans, I am training for Placid so I will be going into NO with the base I have been building.  I did do a race rehearal this past weekend and it went well for me. 

I was thinking about a 3 hour ride Sat.   Is anyone else getting rides that long or longer or are yall tapering more than that.

2011-04-07 11:57 AM
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OWS and run on Saturday then a 2 hr ride scheduled for Sunday.  Not sure I am going to do the ride with the team.  I might go out later on my own.  I hate getting up so early EVERY day of the week.  I try to reserve a day for taking it easy in the morning. 

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2011-04-07 9:40 PM
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Good luck to everyone racing New Orleans. I hope everyone has a good day! See you out on the course.

2011-04-08 8:46 AM
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I would also like to wish everyone a great race/day.  Ill be the 6'8 guy wearing bright green TRI GATOR race suit, hopefully not in anyone's way HAHA.  If you see me say HI!!
2011-04-08 3:31 PM
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Prolite - 2011-03-28 9:44 AM

I agree, it is pretty crazy to see water temps come up so quick. The average depth in the Lake P is 14 feet. The average depth where the swim course is located is about 6 feet.

Official USAT Water Temp Rules

Because the water temp is a big topic right now, here is the official USAT rule on measuring water temp. Remember, wet suits are legal to 76.1 degrees.

It is recommended, but not required that the water temperature for a race be finally determined by a measurement made within 2 hours of the race start. Measurements should be made in at least three locations on the swim course, spaced so as to divide the entire swim course into approximately equidistant segments, and measured at a depth of 18 inches below the surface of the water, at points where direct sunlight can strike the water. The water temperature for the race should be determined by averaging the three temperature measurements taken. A water temperature measurement should also be taken prior to any pre-race meetings in order to forecast to the athletes as early as possible the likely water temperature on race day and the likelihood of whether wet suits will be allowed on race day.
 

Just to clarify one thing.  USAT has NOT changed their wetsuit temperatures.  Their cutoffs are still 78.0 and 84.0 degrees (F). 

WTC applied for and received a rules modification on water temperatures.  Any WTC Ironman or Ironman 70.3 race uses cutoffs of 76.1 and 83.8 degrees (F). 

The notes about being able to wear a wetsuit between the lower and upper temperatures (getting an official finish, but not eligible to qualify for awards and slots to championship races) is the same for both USAT and WTC races; it's just the cutoff temps are a little different.

 

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Good luck to all!  I just got my BR Tri top so will probably be wearing that while rockin my new (to me) Seduza (watching everyone pass me!) LOL.  BTW over on ST they listed the pro's (men and women) that may be at NOLA.  Pretty impressive list and since my wave is at the end I may have to figure out how to bring a camera to play pro groupie and snap some shots.
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I know weather forcast change very easily but I just checked on the extended range on Accuweather and it says Sunday's high will be 68.  I  hope it stays that way, that would be awesome.
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