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Anywhere people get hauled away in handcuffs. The left does not trust the DOJ unless it is something in their favor. Mueller was their savior and walked on water....until he failed to deliver the goods then the left dropped him like a hot coal and attacked Barr.

You said "FBI is investigating". I cannot find any indication the FBI is investigating the election.

Edited by marcag 2020-11-10 11:29 AM

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/case-against-biden-win/

This article makes my point about the need to investigate to find evidence. The results don’t prove anything but they certainly raise reasonable suspicion and warrants investigating.

This one is going to a recount regardless of investigations anyway per state law.

Add thenationalpulse.com to the above list.

Seriously - folks may want to leave their bubble once in a while.

So you agree with the WH delaying transition planning so these "investigations" can go on ?

Per the constitution, yes. Nothing has been certified by ANY state legislatures and there is ample cause to question the vote. RNC chairwoman has 8,000 sworn affidavits claiming voter fraud. By definition, a sworn affidavit is evidence.

I get my news from multiple sites. I’m a political junky and enjoy reading the spin from both sides and then form my own opinion based on the facts and data not opinions. Seriously, some folks might want to stop drinking the cool-aid and apply some critical thinking to what they read.

Suspicion is not evidence but spin is not proof either. In the end, the evidence will point to the winner and all the spin and accusations and whining by either side will matter.

If the investigations flip nothing I will accept the results. If the investigations are not conducted I accept nothing. If Trump loses, even if I still have doubts why will I accept the results? Two reasons. 1. The GOP was not competent enough to stop the cheating. And 2. I saw what a disaster not accepting the results of 2016 was for the democrats Better to spend the next four years building and agenda to retake the WH than spending all that energy trying to undermine the president.

We are still a divided country. We will now see what conservative will do to keep the Senate and take back the House and WH. Hint, it won’t be knitting puzsy hats and marches and riots in the street.

It's good to know you have Rudy on the case

In the words of a wise man "You just couldn't make this up if you tried. LOL"

Dude... Rudy is a numbskull....it doesn't bode well with him leading the charge. LOL

Not sure why I'm bothering, because the people that need to take this to heart won't, but anyway:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/americans-were-primed-to-believ...

Misinformation is a problem but in the end, it won’t matter. The investigations will continue and either they find something or they don’t. If they find nothing the misinformation will eventually be dismissed by most as conspiracy theory. Bu I remain open to see what, if anything they find.

There is a lot of investigations going on behind the scenes that is not reported.

I just read $14B was spent on the presidential election. Good lord! When that much money is involved it would be naive to believe there was no fraud.

So should the prediction thread be on when he "concedes" ?


Edited by marcag 2020-11-13 6:50 AM

Yes, LB did.

He said "never" and that was bang on.

That’s easy. He will concede when all the challenges play out. Why would anyone concede if there was even a very remote chance of winning? It’s not in my to give up when things may look impossible. Just take it one step at a time...this is how I completed 2 Ironman races.

Republicans pick up 10+ House seats, probably keep the Senate, flipped I think two state legislatures and Trump loses? I’d say there is reason to be optimistic. Doesn’t mean they can find or prove fraud but it is certainly worth the wait.

Just read an article on the GA manual recount starting today. One person said it likely won’t flip the outcome of the election but at lease Georgians will know their vote was properly counted. This is especially true in GA where there are two Senate run-offs.

What amazes me is the number of Dems and media pundits saying that challenging the vote undermines democracy. To me, just the opposite is true! If there is suspicion and doubt and questions the right thing to do is recount the vote and make sure. It would be very Banana Republic like to just say to the 70 million Trump voters, “we don’t care that there is doubt, shut up and accept the vote”.

I watched a congressional testimony from a couple of years ago about how easy it is for someone to load vote swinging sw to the vote counting software. All it takes is about 15 minutes and a screwdriver. It is not beyond comprehension to think this might have happened. Maybe not...but why would we not want to know one way or the other?

Well, if anything the level of banananess is being measured

Welp, he dropped his lawsuit in Arizona. I suppose voter fraud only matters when enough votes can be contested for him to win, otherwise who cares. The protests were hilarious to be honest...
Arizona: Count the votes! Count the votes!
Michigan: Stop the count! Stop the count!

This isn't about fraud, they know there is nothing to these claims, they are trying to buy time and spread misinformation. I mean come on... the party who sabotaged the USPS, purged voters, closed polling locations, went after mail voting, is trying to accuse the democrats of cheating? Yeah, nothing banana republic about that.

Trump has always just been the symptom, his followers love the fake news, revel in it. I'll make a prediction, widespread voter fraud won't be found but it won't stop Trump crying foul. His concession speech, which a president with any decency would use to try and unite the country by leading a peaceful transition of power, will be anything but. He will continue this whiny child act that the election was stolen from him and double down on the voter fraud. What a way to go...

Being from AZ I can't help but be reminded of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIjenjANqAk
I try to imagine how Trump would have responded in his place. Let me tell you, it's not difficult to wonder whether or not he would have tried to capitalize on lies and misinformation, it's his specialty and it's what his supporters seem to desire. Can't wait for this circus to be over and for the Biden circus to begin.

Will the GA end the election or increase pressure on other states to recount?

I can see both scenarios play out. If the recount fails to flip GA, I’d say it’s all but over for Trump. OTOH, if the recount shows a massive flip I think Trump’s team with more aggressively call for recounts citing the GA flip.

Assuming Trump loses I actually hope Dems push the socialist agenda. In the long game, it would be their demise. If in 2 years or 4 years we are in a recession the GOP will sweep Congress and the WH. Then reconstruction can begin as Congress and the President undoes the Biden presidency much like Trump undid Obama.

Hmmm... didn't Trump file a lawsuit in 2016 to stop the Wisconsin recount? Consider me completely convinced he's super concerned about fraud.

If GA flips, which is highly doubtful given the lead, that's got nothing to do with the integrity of elections in Arizona, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada, Wisconsin. Unless you believe in conspiracy theories and think there is some underground ring of election fixers that have infiltrated the individual elections of all of these states. Don't get me wrong, far right extremists are certainly trying to sow those seeds of misinformation, not to mention a president who also convinced people that Obama wasn't a natural born citizen.

I hope you can appreciate the danger in undermining the trust in our elections when there is no evidence of widespread fraud. When we believe there is no integrity or trust in our ability to elect leaders of the Republic, the schit will hit the fan.

Well hey, at least Trump somewhat acknowledged Biden's victory today in a tweet "He won because the Election was Rigged."



Wrong. His lemmings will continue to lap that garbage up. His entire presidency was built on misinformation, you really think his loyal followers will have a change of heart about whether or not they can trust what he says? You're smarter than that Rog, it didn't matter before and it won't matter now.

Edited by Synon 2020-11-15 3:38 PM

The Trump cult members don't care. Anything Trump says is true; anything he does is acceptable.

They put party before country, repeatedly.