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PennState - 2010-05-18 5:17 PM How was everyone's training today?

WittyCityGirl - 2010-05-18 8:59 AM So, I'm recovering (recovered?) from weirdo groin/ab hurty issues.  I have an oly distance race this weekend and I'm super stoked to just get my feet wet and enjoy the day.  Don't worry, my goal is to do NOTHING stupid!

So, with JUST two months to go to Lake Placid and I've had minimal training of any sort over the last 4 weeks...where should my concerns be?

The swimming will not be an issue.  I'm thinking that I should focus as best I can on biking and transitioning to the run with runs and swims supporting my training.  I really learned my lesson.  I want to finish this race so I'm not going to unnecessarily freak out any more about pace & volume.  Besides, I'll have a better race day showing up not injured than having forced myself through long training sessions.

PennState - 2010-05-18 8:17 PM How was everyone's training today?

dharris13 - 2010-05-18 8:18 PM thanks josh for the input.

Well it looks like a have an issue with my Psoas. Recomendation is to not do anything that hurts it for at least 7-10 days.  Having a minor freak out here..as these next 6 weeks were my peak training. But i have to remember there are more DNS than DNF..so i need to mkae it to Mirror Lake in 1 piece

kenj - 2010-05-18 9:01 PM

I managed a short bike this morning.  The evening was spent finalizing the housing arrangments out here in CA.  Complex includes an olympic size pool so at least I will have that.  Just need to up the hours per week to reach the plan hours!!

phxphotog - 2010-05-18 10:29 PM I've been enjoying the Amgen Tour of California on Versus this week. I love to watch road cycling on TV. Brings me back to my high school days when I was on Team Panasonic. Go Levi!!!!!!!

furiousferret - 2010-05-19 12:45 AM So this last week has been a mixed bag... 

I started a new 12 week training block, very conservative, and my only goal was to make every workout.  So last week, I do a 2 mile easy run on the treadmill, go for a swim, and I get out of pool and my left achilles just tightened like a knot for 10 seconds.  It pulsed in minor pain the rest of the night but has been okay since.  Still I'm not going to test it.   I was so pissed that after 3 days into my new schedule I'm already hurt.  No more running for 2 weeks.

After that happened I started to get concerned about my 'career' in the sport and if my body is going to let me do another IM.  My achilles and peroneus have been hurting me since October and they just seem to keep coming back.  I was pretty depressed that first night.  It would be one thing going out after finishing an IM but going out this way would not be a good thing.
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So then I did some research...

In August I started going to the Chiropractor for neck problems from poor swim form.  He said my hips were misaligned and worked on aligning them.  After he worked on them for about 5 sessions they definately felt realigned (I was in pain the first few times) and he said they were probably out for 20+ years. 

After this realignment I noticed my left foot was landing directly on the ball of the foot each strike, and then I would supinate to the outer part of the foot.  After my 'adjustment' I was landing at a different angle and after 20 years my feet formed to land with crooked hips.  

After doing some Googling, I noticed a correlation between peroneus pain, achilles tendonosis, and landing on the ball of the foot first.  Its what we (we being doctors and know it alls like me) call a Plantarflexed 1st Metatarsal.  Although I'm against orthodics, (or used to be) a Reverse Morton's Extension is used to alleviate this, so I made my own orthotic and so far my peroneus pain is gone.  I'm also hoping there is a non surgical way to realign the feet.  So far no luck.

My wife thinks I'm a moron for doing all this but I told her that no one is more qualified to diagnose a foot than someone who's ran 10,000 miles on them and she seemed to see my point.   I do plan on seeing a podiatrist about this as well.  I'm hopeful this will fix alot of my issues with the run. 

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Other than that I've been doing good on the bike, I keep setting PR's on my local course which is good.  Even without the aerobars I've been killing it. I've been putting in a ton of miles and I've been feeling really strong.  I'll start doing group rides once my leg feels right which hopefully will be in a week or 2.

Pretty soon I'll be strong enough to take out Minicapie, a guy I see occasionally who just blows by me like I'm Betty White.  He looks just like George Hincapie, only smaller, hence Minicapie.  The guy is wicked fast though.

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My stopwatch died but I get the feeling my swimming is getting alot better.  I'm almost perfectly balanced on both sides now I just need to keep my head perfectly aligned and get a better catch.  I really think the drills are helping alot. 

furiousferret - 2010-05-19 12:45 AM So this last week has been a mixed bag... 

I started a new 12 week training block, very conservative, and my only goal was to make every workout.  So last week, I do a 2 mile easy run on the treadmill, go for a swim, and I get out of pool and my left achilles just tightened like a knot for 10 seconds.  It pulsed in minor pain the rest of the night but has been okay since.  Still I'm not going to test it.   I was so pissed that after 3 days into my new schedule I'm already hurt.  No more running for 2 weeks.

After that happened I started to get concerned about my 'career' in the sport and if my body is going to let me do another IM.  My achilles and peroneus have been hurting me since October and they just seem to keep coming back.  I was pretty depressed that first night.  It would be one thing going out after finishing an IM but going out this way would not be a good thing.
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So then I did some research...

In August I started going to the Chiropractor for neck problems from poor swim form.  He said my hips were misaligned and worked on aligning them.  After he worked on them for about 5 sessions they definately felt realigned (I was in pain the first few times) and he said they were probably out for 20+ years. 

After this realignment I noticed my left foot was landing directly on the ball of the foot each strike, and then I would supinate to the outer part of the foot.  After my 'adjustment' I was landing at a different angle and after 20 years my feet formed to land with crooked hips.  

After doing some Googling, I noticed a correlation between peroneus pain, achilles tendonosis, and landing on the ball of the foot first.  Its what we (we being doctors and know it alls like me) call a Plantarflexed 1st Metatarsal.  Although I'm against orthodics, (or used to be) a Reverse Morton's Extension is used to alleviate this, so I made my own orthotic and so far my peroneus pain is gone.  I'm also hoping there is a non surgical way to realign the feet.  So far no luck.

My wife thinks I'm a moron for doing all this but I told her that no one is more qualified to diagnose a foot than someone who's ran 10,000 miles on them and she seemed to see my point.   I do plan on seeing a podiatrist about this as well.  I'm hopeful this will fix alot of my issues with the run. 

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Other than that I've been doing good on the bike, I keep setting PR's on my local course which is good.  Even without the aerobars I've been killing it. I've been putting in a ton of miles and I've been feeling really strong.  I'll start doing group rides once my leg feels right which hopefully will be in a week or 2.

Pretty soon I'll be strong enough to take out Minicapie, a guy I see occasionally who just blows by me like I'm Betty White.  He looks just like George Hincapie, only smaller, hence Minicapie.  The guy is wicked fast though.

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My stopwatch died but I get the feeling my swimming is getting alot better.  I'm almost perfectly balanced on both sides now I just need to keep my head perfectly aligned and get a better catch.  I really think the drills are helping alot. 

furiousferret - 2010-05-19 12:59 AM

Remember Ken, if you get bored out there in Temecula there's always Mt. Palomar!

kenj - 2010-05-19 9:20 AM

I am not familiar with that, but I will look it up!  It sounds like an epic climb so I am sure my new riding friends will try and drag me up it at some point!  Thanks!  BTW, if you aren't too far maybe we can get together for a ride sometime!

GRB1 - 2010-05-19 11:16 AM

SoCal is a great place for Tri training.  There is a reason San Diego is basically the Tri Meca of the United States, a lot of pros live and train in the area. 

Mt Palomar is a great ride, also look at riding up and down the PCH, normally a lot of bikes and some good hills as well.  LaJolla has some really good hills / climbs that can be worked into the PCH ride. 

furiousferret - 2010-05-19 12:45 AM So this last week has been a mixed bag... 

I started a new 12 week training block, very conservative, and my only goal was to make every workout.  So last week, I do a 2 mile easy run on the treadmill, go for a swim, and I get out of pool and my left achilles just tightened like a knot for 10 seconds.  It pulsed in minor pain the rest of the night but has been okay since.  Still I'm not going to test it.   I was so pissed that after 3 days into my new schedule I'm already hurt.  No more running for 2 weeks.

After that happened I started to get concerned about my 'career' in the sport and if my body is going to let me do another IM.  My achilles and peroneus have been hurting me since October and they just seem to keep coming back.  I was pretty depressed that first night.  It would be one thing going out after finishing an IM but going out this way would not be a good thing.
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So then I did some research...

In August I started going to the Chiropractor for neck problems from poor swim form.  He said my hips were misaligned and worked on aligning them.  After he worked on them for about 5 sessions they definately felt realigned (I was in pain the first few times) and he said they were probably out for 20+ years. 

After this realignment I noticed my left foot was landing directly on the ball of the foot each strike, and then I would supinate to the outer part of the foot.  After my 'adjustment' I was landing at a different angle and after 20 years my feet formed to land with crooked hips.  

After doing some Googling, I noticed a correlation between peroneus pain, achilles tendonosis, and landing on the ball of the foot first.  Its what we (we being doctors and know it alls like me) call a Plantarflexed 1st Metatarsal.  Although I'm against orthodics, (or used to be) a Reverse Morton's Extension is used to alleviate this, so I made my own orthotic and so far my peroneus pain is gone.  I'm also hoping there is a non surgical way to realign the feet.  So far no luck.

My wife thinks I'm a moron for doing all this but I told her that no one is more qualified to diagnose a foot than someone who's ran 10,000 miles on them and she seemed to see my point.   I do plan on seeing a podiatrist about this as well.  I'm hopeful this will fix alot of my issues with the run. 

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Other than that I've been doing good on the bike, I keep setting PR's on my local course which is good.  Even without the aerobars I've been killing it. I've been putting in a ton of miles and I've been feeling really strong.  I'll start doing group rides once my leg feels right which hopefully will be in a week or 2.

Pretty soon I'll be strong enough to take out Minicapie, a guy I see occasionally who just blows by me like I'm Betty White.  He looks just like George Hincapie, only smaller, hence Minicapie.  The guy is wicked fast though.

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My stopwatch died but I get the feeling my swimming is getting alot better.  I'm almost perfectly balanced on both sides now I just need to keep my head perfectly aligned and get a better catch.  I really think the drills are helping alot. 

furiousferret - 2010-05-18 11:37 PM

Same here.  I love cycling, the TdF is probably my favorite event outside the Super Bowl.  The cool thing about todays stage was that my dad lived in San Francisco, and my mom on Santa Cruz.  I would take that route every weekend to visit her, and watching it reminds me of how awesome that area is.

PennState - 2010-05-19 8:29 PM Ok just got a quick little ride in and then re-joined in the total immersion swimming thread. Anyone have strong feelings on total immersion? pro or con?

PennState - 2010-05-19 5:29 PM Ok just got a quick little ride in and then re-joined in the total immersion swimming thread. Anyone have strong feelings on total immersion? pro or con?

kenj - 2010-05-19 7:20 AM

I am not familiar with that, but I will look it up!  It sounds like an epic climb so I am sure my new riding friends will try and drag me up it at some point!  Thanks!  BTW, if you aren't too far maybe we can get together for a ride sometime!

Kath2163 - 2010-05-19 8:45 PM I just finished my first brick of the season. 1.5 hour bike and three mile run.  It went surprisingly well. I really didn't feel any worse running then I usually do so I am happy.