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uhcoog - 2011-06-09 3:26 PM Old English or Mickey's????

 

Mickey Big Mouth Baby~!!!!

 



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uhcoog - 2011-06-09 3:26 PM Old English or Mickey's????

 

Mickey Big Mouth Baby~!!!!

 

 

LOL.  I went to college in the ghetto.  Pretty much Mickeys, OE, and Mad Dog to choose from on any given afternoon.

2011-06-09 2:43 PM
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2 things. 

One, just got back inside from practicing mounting w/ the shoes already clipped in.  Not so bad.  Have on my L tri shorts and the extra fabric kept getting caught on the back of my saddle.  Imagine that won't happen normally. 

Two, is it bad form that I put a picture of a B14 as the background on my wife's netbook and the IMTX logo on her desktop?

2011-06-09 2:54 PM
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Didn't you just have a birthday?  Shoulda asked for it.  Maybe Christmas present ... early?

Turnabout is fair play, so you might find something she wants on your computer . . .

 

2011-06-09 2:58 PM
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carrie639 - 2011-06-09 2:54 PM

Didn't you just have a birthday?  Shoulda asked for it.  Maybe Christmas present ... early?

Turnabout is fair play, so you might find something she wants on your computer . . .

 

 

Father's Day???  No really I'm just joking with her.  Had a talk about fiscal responsibility last night.  $600 for a race and $2500 for a bike aren't in the cards. 

2011-06-09 5:23 PM
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Artist - 2011-06-09 12:29 PM
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Artist - 2011-06-08 3:28 PM Good ride today. Did not get any tightnes in my left hammie so that was good. But I am still getting very severe pain (cramping) in my right calf. It seems to be tight all the time anymore. I roll and stretch it. It does not tighten on the run, just on the bike, especially on hills. I have had two bike fittings so I don't think it is that. started last year and worked on pedaling without pointing my toes, but it is a constant on the bike anymore. ANyone have any suggestions? Also happens some on the mountain bike, but not to the extreme of the roadie

I have notoriously tight hammys.  Pulled them a few times over the years.  Obvious is stretch and roll.  ALso: (1) use yog-type hamstrict streches for a longer deeper stretch (2) stretch, roll and stengthen the supporting muscle groups: weak and tight hip flexors are often the cause of hamstring and low back tightness. 

Big fan of the following circuit for hammy/hipflexor/glute stretch and strength: 3x circuit of walking lungs, step ups, side walking lunges,  1 leg squats.  start with 3x 5, move up to 3x 20 very slowly.  no weight. 

the tight hammie seems to come from pressure on my bike seat especially on hill climbs. But it is my calf that is problematic all the time. I can't seem to loosen it up at all. Was just on the bike and now running. Biking is the worst though. Only right one, not the left.

I have lots of calf crampimg/tighness issues.  lots of stretching, warm soaks.  If the bike is hurting your hammys its probably you have weak hamstrings (guessing here) and the pull on your upstroke is fatiguing them.  That is not uncommon and biking more (and stretching and strengthening) will help. 



2011-06-09 5:30 PM
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carrie639 - 2011-06-09 1:54 PM I have heard Rev3 puts on great events with great goodie bags . . . they are finally coming to my area next year.  Wisconsin Dells in August!!!

short sleeve t-shirt, long sleeve tech finishers shirt, visor, gatorade towel, very heavy finishers medal.  i still dont get finishers medals, mine are "prizes" for my daughters' toy horses when they win their respective horse shows.

Excellent production, tons of food post race, the aid stations were feaking buffets (water, gatorade, GUs, prezzels, coke, smores... okay not really).  TOns of post race food, big massage tent.  I was very impressed.

The one thing that "annoyed" me (and not that much) was there was a christian prayer before hand. I'm jewish/non-religious and while i while i would not have expected (or even wanted) for a morning sh'ma and I dont mind a prayer, but make it non-denominational. But that is nit picking.

2011-06-09 5:32 PM
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CubeFarmGopher - 2011-06-09 2:57 PM

The talk...it is smack-ey!

 

So far, we have a 40oz Malt Liquor, a tin of Kodiak and a case of Little Debbie cakes to the Winner of the Fast Fat showdown. 

The 40-o will be of King Cobra - however if the winner does not go sub 2:15 on the HM, they only get a 20 oz can of St. Ides.

2011-06-09 5:38 PM
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uhcoog - 2011-06-09 3:39 PM
Rudedog55 - 2011-06-09 2:38 PM

uhcoog - 2011-06-09 3:26 PM Old English or Mickey's????

 

Mickey Big Mouth Baby~!!!!

 

 

LOL.  I went to college in the ghetto.  Pretty much Mickeys, OE, and Mad Dog to choose from on any given afternoon.

Worst party ever: "Three Dog Night"... Red Dog, Mad Dog and Hot Dogs. 

In college our football run testing was called the "Springfield Test: you ran 10 40 yrs dashes in 5 minutes minutes and your slowest had to be no less than 0.5 seconds slower than your fastest.  Failure meant extra running. 

We turned this into the drinking version: fdrink a 40-o in 5 minutes.  Failure meant you had to do shots of Jager.

2011-06-09 7:26 PM
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jsklarz - 2011-06-09 4:23 PM
Artist - 2011-06-09 12:29 PM
jsklarz - 2011-06-09 7:03 AM

Artist - 2011-06-08 3:28 PM Good ride today. Did not get any tightnes in my left hammie so that was good. But I am still getting very severe pain (cramping) in my right calf. It seems to be tight all the time anymore. I roll and stretch it. It does not tighten on the run, just on the bike, especially on hills. I have had two bike fittings so I don't think it is that. started last year and worked on pedaling without pointing my toes, but it is a constant on the bike anymore. ANyone have any suggestions? Also happens some on the mountain bike, but not to the extreme of the roadie

I have notoriously tight hammys.  Pulled them a few times over the years.  Obvious is stretch and roll.  ALso: (1) use yog-type hamstrict streches for a longer deeper stretch (2) stretch, roll and stengthen the supporting muscle groups: weak and tight hip flexors are often the cause of hamstring and low back tightness. 

Big fan of the following circuit for hammy/hipflexor/glute stretch and strength: 3x circuit of walking lungs, step ups, side walking lunges,  1 leg squats.  start with 3x 5, move up to 3x 20 very slowly.  no weight. 

the tight hammie seems to come from pressure on my bike seat especially on hill climbs. But it is my calf that is problematic all the time. I can't seem to loosen it up at all. Was just on the bike and now running. Biking is the worst though. Only right one, not the left.

I have lots of calf crampimg/tighness issues.  lots of stretching, warm soaks.  If the bike is hurting your hammys its probably you have weak hamstrings (guessing here) and the pull on your upstroke is fatiguing them.  That is not uncommon and biking more (and stretching and strengthening) will help. 

only left hammie and right calf. I have not had hammie issues before. Still riding same hills and bike. difference is seat. I think I tend to try and compensate when calf really hurts on ride and lean. This seat hits differently and puts a pressure point on left side hammie only. Quick stretch off the bike makes it go away. Calf is another story.
2011-06-09 8:34 PM
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This whole run/walk thing makes me think I might one day be able to do a half mary! 

Did 6.7 miles tonight, .9 run/.1 walk for each mile. Feel pretty good.

Now if I could just carry water that doesn't turn to boiling water by the 3rd or 4th mile I'll be all set!



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abqtj - 2011-06-09 9:34 PM

This whole run/walk thing makes me think I might one day be able to do a half mary! 

Did 6.7 miles tonight, .9 run/.1 walk for each mile. Feel pretty good.

Now if I could just carry water that doesn't turn to boiling water by the 3rd or 4th mile I'll be all set!

frozen water bottles are your friend in summer.  for long summer runs i freeze 2 of my 4 fuel belt flasks, usually they are unfrozen whe  i get to them

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abqtj - 2011-06-09 7:34 PM

This whole run/walk thing makes me think I might one day be able to do a half mary! 

Did 6.7 miles tonight, .9 run/.1 walk for each mile. Feel pretty good.

Now if I could just carry water that doesn't turn to boiling water by the 3rd or 4th mile I'll be all set!

fill water battle 1/4 to 1/2 full and freeze. add water just before run. freezing it in the bottle will last longer than adding cubes
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ah good tips! Thanks!
2011-06-10 4:30 AM
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I started with the walk/run protocall, when i first did it it was more walk then run, when Jeff-y paced me for my first 10k+ distance race, i employed the walk run in a 10m on 1 min off pace, and seargent Jeff-y pushed my sorry carcass to do better or walk less. That was important, because your mind will tell you you can't do something your body can do.  It took 2 years before i never stopped for a walk break in a Tri of any length, i always allowed my mind to convince me it was time to walk.

Keep pushing the lengths of the Run vs Walk. Don't settle into one interval, mix them up, don't let the body get used to one thing, you will be amazed at how the body handles it, and then one day VIOLA, you won't stop for that walk.

 

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I am just amazed how this sleeping monster has stayed quiet for so long.  I have never heard of a run-walk method until recently and now everyone is coming out of the woodwork with wonderful success stories.  No one said a word before, and now that I have mentioned it, all my friends know people, etc.  Its great to see that method works and I have a load of success stories to relay on if I get doubtful.  You just need to get used to the walk part, since running shoes aren't really made for walking (blisters).

I will do another run-walk tonight 90 sec/60 sec as that is what I will be paced by on Sunday in the North Shore 1/2.  It will be back down to 55-60 degrees for the race, so shouldn't be a problem.

So in illinois we go from record setting heat waves . . . to monsoon rains with some areas getting 3-5 inches in 1 night!!!!  from 98 degrees to 50 degrees!



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I guess I am so used to drinking warm anything (my work doesn't offer water, so I bring my own), so I drink warm water all day long.  When running, my body doesn't care what temp my liquids are as long as they fit the bill.

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I think "Couch to 5k" plans made the run/walk approach more widely accepted.  Could be wrong though.  Did some minor bike maintenance last night.  Good but short swim and bike workouts this morning.  Ready to rock and roll Sunday.
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Oh yeah.  Meant to ask.  From time to time my arches cramp during a swim workout or race.  Anyone know why this may happen?
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Nice 23.5 mile ride this morning, wanted to share the sunrise photo from 5:30 this morning at the top of a climb.  Had to stop to take the photo with my phone. Look how far you can see into the valley.  The climb after this next decent, SUCKS!!!!!   Swimming tonight.

 



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Cramps generally happen for 2 reason and not all the time . . . water is colder than usual or the muscles being used aren't strong enough or are being used more than usual.  So could be the muscles in your feet are underdeveloped and are still getting used to the flex during swimming.  The more or harder you flex, the more likely you are to cramp.

Even the most experienced swimmers will cramp in cold water or hard workouts.



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Nice sunrise rizer!
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carrie639 - 2011-06-10 11:10 AM

Cramps generally happen for 2 reason and not all the time . . . water is colder than usual or the muscles being used aren't strong enough or are being used more than usual.  So could be the muscles in your feet are underdeveloped and are still getting used to the flex during swimming.  The more or harder you flex, the more likely you are to cramp.

Even the most experienced swimmers will cramp in cold water or hard workouts.

Run barefoot (Seriously).  Doing short distances barefoot (on grass or sand or someplace you wont burn or hurt your feet) helps make your feet stronger.

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Rudedog55 - 2011-06-10 5:30 AM

I started with the walk/run protocall, when i first did it it was more walk then run, when Jeff-y paced me for my first 10k+ distance race, i employed the walk run in a 10m on 1 min off pace, and seargent Jeff-y pushed my sorry carcass to do better or walk less. That was important, because your mind will tell you you can't do something your body can do.  It took 2 years before i never stopped for a walk break in a Tri of any length, i always allowed my mind to convince me it was time to walk.

Keep pushing the lengths of the Run vs Walk. Don't settle into one interval, mix them up, don't let the body get used to one thing, you will be amazed at how the body handles it, and then one day VIOLA, you won't stop for that walk.

 

With the "mixing it up" -- remember that one of the most efective ways to use run:walk intervals in a race is to time the intervals to aid stations.   A common strategy is to "walk the aid stations" that way you make sure you're able to take in enough fluid and your walk break serves the dual purpose of helping to delay perepheral system failure whi;e making sure you're hydrated / getting in calories. 

Also walk breaks should be brisk.  Its not a slow down, but a walk briskly to keep your HR as high as possible before you start running again.

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Beautiful sunrise, Jeff! 

There's a section on run/walk method in this month's Runner's World.  The guy they interviewed has had a lot of success with the method. 

I went for an open water swim in my new wetsuit this morning, and 2 dead fish floated by me!!!  Surprised  Lake Erie is very, very scary. 

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