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![]() | ![]() jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:49 AM I disagree on the anomaly part. That's kind of my point, is that offenses are so average (or below in some cases) in the SEC that when they do play a good offense, they get taken advantage of. Watch aTm vs OU tomorrow. That aTm SEC defense will have a tough time against an OU offense. The defenses are good, don't get me wrong, and the defenses are the best, as a whole, in college football. I'm just saying they get made out to be better than they really are due to average-below average offenses. You're right, UGA should have been playing Louisville. Agree on all other match up accounts except NIU vs FSU. It's good to have a BCS buster in there, but that one probably shouldn't have happened. TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 6:48 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 8:30 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 7:47 AM I didn't see that Louisville upset coming. Then again neither did Fowler, Corso, Howard, or Herbstreit. Florida's defense looked like a bunch of thugs with the hits and the late roughness but they didn't amount to much in the way of stopping the angry birds.
SEC bias. The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are. Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team. And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida. As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet. He just needed a little time to grow up basically. I saw a little bit of that last night. His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field. It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson. Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football. It just is. I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences. Some are stronger than others. The SEC is the strongest in college football. Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome. Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions. They were the better coached team for this game. So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well? You can't stack up the Pac-12 agaionst the SEC.....that's ridiculous. Yes, I wouldn't rate the Pac-12 any better than the 4th best conference in college football. Of course, your conference champion was stellar against an 8-5 unranked opponent from the Dog-10. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 8:56 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:49 AM I disagree on the anomaly part. That's kind of my point, is that offenses are so average (or below in some cases) in the SEC that when they do play a good offense, they get taken advantage of. Watch aTm vs OU tomorrow. That aTm SEC defense will have a tough time against an OU offense. The defenses are good, don't get me wrong, and the defenses are the best, as a whole, in college football. I'm just saying they get made out to be better than they really are due to average-below average offenses. You're right, UGA should have been playing Louisville. Agree on all other match up accounts except NIU vs FSU. It's good to have a BCS buster in there, but that one probably shouldn't have happened. TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. Florida must be pretty good at laying the big hit, since the 25 yard run they gave up last night was the longest they allowed this season. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-03 8:58 AM uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 6:48 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 8:30 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 7:47 AM I didn't see that Louisville upset coming. Then again neither did Fowler, Corso, Howard, or Herbstreit. Florida's defense looked like a bunch of thugs with the hits and the late roughness but they didn't amount to much in the way of stopping the angry birds.
SEC bias. The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are. Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team. And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida. As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet. He just needed a little time to grow up basically. I saw a little bit of that last night. His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field. It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson. Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football. It just is. I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences. Some are stronger than others. The SEC is the strongest in college football. Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome. Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions. They were the better coached team for this game. So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well? You can't stack up the Pac-12 agaionst the SEC.....that's ridiculous. Yes, I wouldn't rate the Pac-12 any better than the 4th best conference in college football. Of course, your conference champion was stellar against an 8-5 unranked opponent from the Dog-10. Can't argue with that in depth analysis. Edited by uclamatt2007 2013-01-03 11:03 AM |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 10:56 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:49 AM I disagree on the anomaly part. That's kind of my point, is that offenses are so average (or below in some cases) in the SEC that when they do play a good offense, they get taken advantage of. Watch aTm vs OU tomorrow. That aTm SEC defense will have a tough time against an OU offense. The defenses are good, don't get me wrong, and the defenses are the best, as a whole, in college football. I'm just saying they get made out to be better than they really are due to average-below average offenses. You're right, UGA should have been playing Louisville. Agree on all other match up accounts except NIU vs FSU. It's good to have a BCS buster in there, but that one probably shouldn't have happened. TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. Admittedly, the problem with my statement is that they play so few prolific offenses that it's somewhat difficult to say one way or the other. To me though, it seemed pretty clear with aTm's success this year in the SEC. That's the SEC's only prolific offense and they did pretty darn good this year. |
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![]() | ![]() uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:59 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 8:56 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:49 AM I disagree on the anomaly part. That's kind of my point, is that offenses are so average (or below in some cases) in the SEC that when they do play a good offense, they get taken advantage of. Watch aTm vs OU tomorrow. That aTm SEC defense will have a tough time against an OU offense. The defenses are good, don't get me wrong, and the defenses are the best, as a whole, in college football. I'm just saying they get made out to be better than they really are due to average-below average offenses. You're right, UGA should have been playing Louisville. Agree on all other match up accounts except NIU vs FSU. It's good to have a BCS buster in there, but that one probably shouldn't have happened. TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. Florida must be pretty good at laying the big hit, since the 25 yard run they gave up last night was the longest they allowed this season. Longest run. They gave up several deep bombs. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 11:02 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 8:58 AM uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 6:48 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 8:30 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 7:47 AM I didn't see that Louisville upset coming. Then again neither did Fowler, Corso, Howard, or Herbstreit. Florida's defense looked like a bunch of thugs with the hits and the late roughness but they didn't amount to much in the way of stopping the angry birds.
SEC bias. The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are. Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team. And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida. As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet. He just needed a little time to grow up basically. I saw a little bit of that last night. His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field. It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson. Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football. It just is. I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences. Some are stronger than others. The SEC is the strongest in college football. Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome. Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions. They were the better coached team for this game. So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well? You can't stack up the Pac-12 agaionst the SEC.....that's ridiculous. Yes, I wouldn't rate the Pac-12 any better than the 4th best conference in college football. Of course, your conference champion was stellar against an 8-5 unranked opponent from the Dog-10. Can't argue with that in depth analysis. Yeah, it really takes an in depth analysis. LMAO |
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![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-03 10:58 AM uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 6:48 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 8:30 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 7:47 AM I didn't see that Louisville upset coming. Then again neither did Fowler, Corso, Howard, or Herbstreit. Florida's defense looked like a bunch of thugs with the hits and the late roughness but they didn't amount to much in the way of stopping the angry birds.
SEC bias. The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are. Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team. And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida. As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet. He just needed a little time to grow up basically. I saw a little bit of that last night. His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field. It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson. Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football. It just is. I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences. Some are stronger than others. The SEC is the strongest in college football. Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome. Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions. They were the better coached team for this game. So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well? You can't stack up the Pac-12 agaionst the SEC.....that's ridiculous. Yes, I wouldn't rate the Pac-12 any better than the 4th best conference in college football. Of course, your conference champion was stellar against an 8-5 unranked opponent from the Dog-10. This year you're probably right. But you forget Oregon is playing tonight against K-State that tore-up the Big 12. Then you had Stanford that beat Wisconsin. So what would be your conference rankings? |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:56 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 10:53 AM I don't think so.....that's stil basically a Big 12 matchup. OU will not fool aTm at all. So who beat Alabama? A Big 12 team or an SEC team? Big12. I don't disagree with what you say about SEC defenses....they are built for SEC offenses. Hell, Missouri gave Ga. all they could handle for 3 quarters. Still, the SEC defenses will prevail most of the time........look around.
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() One thing that I found REALLY interesting (since we're on the subject of both teams kind of) is that both Bill Snyder and Will Muschamp are what is considered "Player's Coaches". Teams with Player's coaches generally mirror their coaches demeanor. I have really NEVER seen it play out like it did last night with Florida. Watch Snyder's team play. They play with his same demeanor. Steady, patient, disciplined, boring....... but just watch. I don't know, maybe I find that more interesting than others....... |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:07 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 10:58 AM uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:43 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 6:48 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 8:30 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 7:47 AM I didn't see that Louisville upset coming. Then again neither did Fowler, Corso, Howard, or Herbstreit. Florida's defense looked like a bunch of thugs with the hits and the late roughness but they didn't amount to much in the way of stopping the angry birds.
SEC bias. The offenses aren't very good in the SEC so they make their defenses look better than they actually are. Florida is a top 10-ish team, IMO, but they weren't a #3 team. And I agree with your later post, Georgia should have stayed above Florida. As far as them looking like thugs, I heard a lot of chatter while Muschamp was at Texas about how immature he was and how he was a great coordinator but was too much like his players to be a head coach just yet. He just needed a little time to grow up basically. I saw a little bit of that last night. His play calls were too risky, they obviously didn't take the cards seriously, and the players seemed to be following his lead with the attitudes on the field. It looked a little like Jimmy Johnson at Miami, but Muschamp is no Jimmy Johnson. Yes, but the SEC is the best conference in college football. It just is. I know it's not popular among SEC detractors to "make broad sweeping generalizations" but we do it in every sport that has divisions and conferences. Some are stronger than others. The SEC is the strongest in college football. Play that game 6 weeks ago and I bet you get a different outcome. Still, Louisville looked good....very well prepared and in congtrol of their emotions. They were the better coached team for this game. So wait.... when a Pac-12 team get rolled, it just shows how weak the Pac-12 is. When an SEC team get rolled, its because of 6 off weeks and the other team playing well? You can't stack up the Pac-12 agaionst the SEC.....that's ridiculous. Yes, I wouldn't rate the Pac-12 any better than the 4th best conference in college football. Of course, your conference champion was stellar against an 8-5 unranked opponent from the Dog-10. This year you're probably right. But you forget Oregon is playing tonight against K-State that tore-up the Big 12. Then you had Stanford that beat Wisconsin. So what would be your conference rankings? 1. SEC 2. Big - 12 3. Tie ACC and Pac-12 (nod to ACC after bowl season) 5. Big - 10 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:56 AM TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. wait. is there some part of their conference membership still pending? |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-03 11:11 AM jgaither - 2013-01-03 10:56 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 10:53 AM I don't think so.....that's stil basically a Big 12 matchup. OU will not fool aTm at all. So who beat Alabama? A Big 12 team or an SEC team? Big12. I don't disagree with what you say about SEC defenses....they are built for SEC offenses. Hell, Missouri gave Ga. all they could handle for 3 quarters. Still, the SEC defenses will prevail most of the time........look around.
Well you know what they say. "Offense wins games, Defense wins championships." |
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![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:04 AM uclamatt2007 - 2013-01-03 10:59 AM Florida must be pretty good at laying the big hit, since the 25 yard run they gave up last night was the longest they allowed this season. Longest run. They gave up several deep bombs. Matt, I'm sorry. You're right. UF only gave up 3 long (over 20 yard) TDs this year. One 49 yarder against UGA, 2 x 26 yard runs. It really seemed like they gave up a lot of wide-open deep passes because they blitzed somewhere. But if they got caught on the 1, you don't really have a way to find that stat without an ESPN production staff. You get the point. |
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![]() | ![]() Clempson - 2013-01-03 11:14 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:56 AM TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. wait. is there some part of their conference membership still pending? Most of their players were recruited going to a Big 12 team that would play really hard but everyone knew it was Texas and Oklahoma's conference. I think saying "You can play in the SEC" to a Texas blue-chip recruit will carry a lot of weight for A&M. So they are in the SEC, but their Defense is still a Big 12 recruited Defense. IMO FWIW |
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![]() | ![]() Left Brain - 2013-01-03 11:13 AM 1. SEC 2. Big - 12 3. Tie ACC and Pac-12 (nod to ACC after bowl season) 5. Big - 10 I would put ACC below Pac 12.... On second thought. ACC had Clemson who beat LSU, GT who beat SC, and FSU who beat some FCS division team that showed-up for NIU. I guess that's pretty strong. Hard to say though because Pac 12 and ACC almost never play each other. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:20 AM Clempson - 2013-01-03 11:14 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:56 AM TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. wait. is there some part of their conference membership still pending? Most of their players were recruited going to a Big 12 team that would play really hard but everyone knew it was Texas and Oklahoma's conference. I think saying "You can play in the SEC" to a Texas blue-chip recruit will carry a lot of weight for A&M. So they are in the SEC, but their Defense is still a Big 12 recruited Defense. IMO FWIW I'm guessing you would concede the same about their offense? |
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![]() | ![]() jgaither - 2013-01-03 11:25 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:20 AM Clempson - 2013-01-03 11:14 AM GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:56 AM TxA&M isn't really a full-fledged SEC team yet but I'll accept your point. I think A&M's defense deserved as much praise as Johnny Football this year but nobody knows them. Their D-Line is tough. Oklahoma's offense hasn't had much luck against SEC opponents in the last several years either though so you can't really say the SEC can't defend against a good offense. My point about UF is that they're all about big hits and not wrapping. Alabama's all about getting the guy on the ground however you do it (big hits are allowed, but if you miss the tackle, Coach Saban will bench you). It matches with what was said about Muschamp though. Going for the big call instead of the boring plod-along games that Bama plays. wait. is there some part of their conference membership still pending? Most of their players were recruited going to a Big 12 team that would play really hard but everyone knew it was Texas and Oklahoma's conference. I think saying "You can play in the SEC" to a Texas blue-chip recruit will carry a lot of weight for A&M. So they are in the SEC, but their Defense is still a Big 12 recruited Defense. IMO FWIW I'm guessing you would concede the same about their offense? I would definitely. One of the things I thought about Manziel getting the Heisman in his first year is that he'll end-up like many other SEC QBs who were good their first year. They get hurt a lot over those 4 years. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:25 AM Left Brain - 2013-01-03 11:13 AM 1. SEC 2. Big - 12 3. Tie ACC and Pac-12 (nod to ACC after bowl season) 5. Big - 10 I would put ACC below Pac 12.... On second thought. ACC had Clemson who beat LSU, GT who beat SC, and FSU who beat some FCS division team that showed-up for NIU. I guess that's pretty strong. Hard to say though because Pac 12 and ACC almost never play each other.
Hell, with Lousville and Syracuse I might even put the Big East ahead of the Big 10. LOL |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Just curious who's still statistically in the mix?
My "BIG MOVE" of picking NIU over FSU worked out to be stupid (not particularly out of character for me |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jgaither - 2013-01-07 7:44 AM Just curious who's still statistically in the mix?
My "BIG MOVE" of picking NIU over FSU worked out to be stupid (not particularly out of character for me I'm in. Oh wait you mean for winning and not last right? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I would like to donate my winnings to the Art Schlicter / Maurice Clarett "Wasted Potential" fund! |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bah only 2 points away...so close. Congrats jcasa and pitt83 |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() GomesBolt - 2013-01-03 11:20 AM Most of their players were recruited going to a Big 12 team that would play really hard but everyone knew it was Texas and Oklahoma's conference. I think saying "You can play in the SEC" to a Texas blue-chip recruit will carry a lot of weight for A&M. We already have 35 commitments which is more than any other of the top 21 rated recruting classes so far. I really did not believe moving to the SEC would have this kind of impact on A&M. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jacasa - 2013-01-08 5:15 PM I would like to donate my winnings to the Art Schlicter / Maurice Clarett "Wasted Potential" fund! With Manziel's tweeted pics in a casino and another holding a bottle of champagne, I think he's channeling his inner Clarett. |
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