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2016-11-14 9:04 AM
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Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 



2016-11-14 9:18 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 

It doesn't matter......Trump won. 

2016-11-14 9:21 AM
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It doesn't matter......Trump won. 

Yep. I really hope he ends up being the president Tony thinks he can be, and not the one I think he'll be.

2016-11-14 9:22 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 

He did start a revolution and was quite successful the last I checked.  There's more than one way to have a revolution.  

2016-11-14 9:28 AM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 

He did start a revolution and was quite successful the last I checked.  There's more than one way to have a revolution.  

Don't you see, all these protesters are just following our new president's lead! He told us four years ago the phony electoral college was rigged system and we need to revolt against it. But no one listened, so he went out and proved it. LOL

2016-11-14 9:29 AM
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Saw this on FB:

I survived Obama
You will survive Trump



Trump told America how he was gonna get elected and not many picked up on it. It's called the Art of the Deal:

I'm going to ban all Muslims!

What? You can't do that. Are you crazy?

OK, just Muslims from certain nations.

You can't do that either you racist bigot!

We are going to implement extreme vetting.

OK, then.



We are going to deport 30 million illegal Mexicans!

What? You can't do that. Are you crazy?

OK, we will deport the 3 million one with criminal records.

OK then.



We are gonna build a 30 high wall along the entire Mexican border.

What? You can't do that. Are you crazy?

OK, some of it might be fences and natural barriers,

OK then.


2016-11-14 9:32 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Left Brain

It doesn't matter......Trump won. 

Yep. I really hope he ends up being the president Tony thinks he can be, and not the one I think he'll be.

I'm still hoping as well.  I think it was Newt who said he needs to act and act fast before he gets sucked under in the swamp himself.

I am glad that his top three agenda items of tax cuts, healthcare, and immigration.  I'd be falling out of my chair if the Repubs tried pushing in some sweeping social legislation at this point.  

2016-11-14 9:34 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 

He did start a revolution and was quite successful the last I checked.  There's more than one way to have a revolution.  

Don't you see, all these protesters are just following our new president's lead! He told us four years ago the phony electoral college was rigged system and we need to revolt against it. But no one listened, so he went out and proved it. LOL

Did you by chance watch the 60 minutes interview last night?  He was asked about the electoral college statements in the past.  I did have to give it to him though he stayed consistent and said he still doesn't like it, even though he won under it. 

2016-11-14 9:37 AM
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Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Bob Loblaw

Originally posted by Rogillio The protests reflect poorly on our educational system. I'm just amazed at the number of people who think the US is a democracy and saying 'one person one vote'. If we were a democracy, the majority would ride rough shod over minorities. The founding fathers recognized this and put the electoral system in the constitution. The fact that Trump didn't win the popular is a teachable moment for people who think our government is a democracy. We are a constitutional republic. We choose representatives to represent everyone not the majority.

I guess the best private school New York has to offer isn't doing much better.  (from the 2012 election)

Donald Trump's tweets in 2012 called for people to take on the steets

 

He did start a revolution and was quite successful the last I checked.  There's more than one way to have a revolution.  

Don't you see, all these protesters are just following our new president's lead! He told us four years ago the phony electoral college was rigged system and we need to revolt against it. But no one listened, so he went out and proved it. LOL





Whenever I see 'protests' I ask the basic questions:

1. What exactly are you protesting?
2. What specifically are your 'demands'?


The Occupy protest could not even answer question 1. Everyone with a cause showed up yelled their hey-hey, ho-ho your mama has got to go. The Black Live Matter do a pretty good job of answering 1, but have no answers what they want to see done.

Likewise, the election protestors have no realistic demands. They need to organize and protest specific policies and not just say Trump is a misogynist, racist, bigot.

If they want to change the electoral system they are free to organized to try amend the US Constitution. And that just ain't gonna happen.


2016-11-14 9:41 AM
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I think I mentioned it previously, but the way you impact change in a representative democracy is you get people elected to office or run yourself.  You can say all you want about the Tea Party, but they went out and have been getting people elected to offices at every level since they came to be.  BLM, Occupy Wallstreet, etc. are still just protesting and whining. 

2016-11-14 9:43 AM
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Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State!



























Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....


2016-11-14 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

2016-11-14 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

2016-11-14 10:55 AM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

I cannot find a dumb person attractive, in any sense.  (I could possibly lie)

2016-11-14 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 




I'd take her in administrative position.....that's like the missionary, right?
2016-11-14 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

She appears to be on the short list for Department of the Interior. 



2016-11-14 11:32 AM
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Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

I cannot find a dumb person attractive, in any sense.  (I could possibly lie)




That's pretty shallow, Hal. :-)

As the father of special needs daughter, I can tell you SP is not dumb in any sense of the word. You might not like her politics and her personality might rub on you like shaving your head with a cheese grater but she is an accomplished woman. That's just an empirical fact.

I was joking about Sec of State....but it would not surprise me if she was appointed to some position. Maybe ambassador to Russia since she can see it from her house?!

2016-11-14 11:39 AM
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Originally posted by Rogillio
Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

I cannot find a dumb person attractive, in any sense.  (I could possibly lie)

That's pretty shallow, Hal. :-) As the father of special needs daughter, I can tell you SP is not dumb in any sense of the word. You might not like her politics and her personality might rub on you like shaving your head with a cheese grater but she is an accomplished woman. That's just an empirical fact. I was joking about Sec of State....but it would not surprise me if she was appointed to some position. Maybe ambassador to Russia since she can see it from her house?!

we have a fundamental disagreement here.  she is so dumb. I'm with LB, I sorta though she was attractive and she opened her mouth...that was it.

2016-11-14 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by dmiller5

Originally posted by Rogillio
Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Left Brain

Originally posted by Rogillio Holey moley! I just saw breaking news on CNN that Trump will name Palin as Secretary of State! Just kidding. I figure LB needed a to get his HR up a little.....

That idiot couldn't be secretary of a day care.

You know you want her.   

I don't want her in any administration positions either, but I do still have a secret crush on her.  I can't lie. 

I cannot find a dumb person attractive, in any sense.  (I could possibly lie)

That's pretty shallow, Hal. :-) As the father of special needs daughter, I can tell you SP is not dumb in any sense of the word. You might not like her politics and her personality might rub on you like shaving your head with a cheese grater but she is an accomplished woman. That's just an empirical fact. I was joking about Sec of State....but it would not surprise me if she was appointed to some position. Maybe ambassador to Russia since she can see it from her house?!

we have a fundamental disagreement here.  she is so dumb. I'm with LB, I sorta though she was attractive and she opened her mouth...that was it.




I agree with this:

"Let me tell you something about Sarah Palin.....stupid people don't tend to attract contributors, managers, supporters, and electorates. If she'd exhibited stupidity on the Wasilla city council, they probably wouldn't have elected her mayor. If she'd exhibited stupidity as mayor, they probably wouldn't have elected her for a second term. Her appointment to the Oil and Gas Committee by the governor was probably not because she'd behaved stupidly. Finally, stupidity probably does not characterize most successful bids to run for governor of one of the United States.....If you call yourself a critical thinker, ad hominem attacks should not be the extent of your criticisms of those in whom you find fault. Show me one thing Sarah Palin has said or done that's "stupid", and I'll show you something that's perfectly rational for someone with her religious and political convictions. It may be that you simply disagree with her convictions, and you probably have very good reasons for doing so. But if that's the case, don't just say "Sarah Palin is stupid". That's kindergarten talk, and it makes you look bad, not her. Understand why she takes the position she does, then reveal the faults in that position."
2016-11-14 12:08 PM
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Sarah Palin is by no means dumb, but she was very under-informed when she was tapped to run as VP. 
She didn't know very much outside of the world of Alaska and it had nothing to do with IQ or not being smart.  It was simply a lack of exposure to national and world politics. 

I was a fan of hers, but her detractors did have a point that she wasn't qualified to be VP due to her lack of exposure, but there was never any rational truth to her not being qualified because she was "dumb".

Don't forget the Progressives will always label a Republican candidate with whatever derogatory thing they can dig up.  The pool they draw upon is Racist/Homophobic/sexist/dumb/xenophobe/womanizer/etc.  It's Alinski tactics 101.
Sarah wasn't versed in politics so they went for labeling her as "dumb" and as dmiller and LB have shown, it stuck.  With McCain, he was labeled as a racist and a sexist/cheater.  With Romney, they struggled with the personal attacks being that he was such a church boy so they had to go with racist and sexist. 
Obviously with Trump they went with all of the above.  lol

2016-11-14 12:12 PM
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I am glad that his top three agenda items of tax cuts, healthcare, and immigration.

Ah yes the old cry of tax cuts.  If he manages to do it in a revenue neutral manner, I'll be shocked.  Hasn't happened in my lifetime... every single big federal tax cut has resulted in a major deficit increase.



2016-11-14 12:14 PM
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OK, if you say so,  she's not dumb.......but I'm not attracted to women who name their kids Track, Snow Shovel, and Walking Stick...... or whatever the hell their names are.

2016-11-14 12:15 PM
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Btw, for all the talk of reforming the tax code -- anyone want to put odds on him keeping the carried interest provision?

2016-11-14 12:19 PM
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OK, if you say so,  she's not dumb.......but I'm not attracted to women who name their kids Track, Snow Shovel, and Walking Stick...... or whatever the hell their names are.




They call her "Stands with microphone".
2016-11-14 12:25 PM
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Btw, for all the talk of reforming the tax code -- anyone want to put odds on him keeping the carried interest provision?




I will plead ignorant when it comes to taxes. I do think reducing taxes on the rich stimulates the economy. We usually take about 3 vacations a year. If we paid less in taxes we might take 4 a years.....so that money would go back into the economy and create another 0.5 jobs at the Haunted Mansion at WDW. That 0.5 job would then spend money instead of living off the government. We are upper middle class....but take the really rich class....reduce their taxes and they can afford to open another Duncan Donuts franchise creating 2 dozen jobs.

People laugh about 'trickle down' economics but it makes sense to me.

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