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2009-07-04 11:26 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
4everblue - 2009-07-04 10:24 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?
Seen the pro's do it often & have copied them myself. I've encountered no problem.


hmm.. once I can get on the trainer, I'll have to practice and tune and see if I can get it to work for me.  I find that if I shift in or out of this while on a hill, the tension is too much and throws the chain.


2009-07-04 11:27 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

Artemis - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 12:21 PM

Just heard an ice cream van go past the front door. Anyone want a cornet?



I believe you have to explain "cornets" for me.
Cone. what the ice cream goes in. I'm British, we speak funny.

2009-07-04 11:28 AM
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CHR15 TREE - 2009-07-05 2:25 AM I'll have a '99'!

Lol = with a flake!

 

Hi Chris!

2009-07-04 11:28 AM
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4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:23 AM

Cat, you'll like the irony of this. Pozzato leaves the box in front of Tom. Justice

hmmmm..... could be fun...

2009-07-04 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:26 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:22 AM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?

In your Big Ring at the front... you *should* be able toride the smaller gears at the back...


that's exactly how I ride 80% of the time... my friends constantly accuse me of "mashing it out" .  But with my oak tree legs I can hack it out with no prob... I think maybe my legs are built for cycling...
The ONLY time I ever use my small cog on front is on med-big hills.
2009-07-04 11:28 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

CHR15 TREE - 2009-07-04 5:25 PM I'll have a '99'!
trust you to want one with a stick of chocolate in it.

Hi CHR15

 

 



2009-07-04 11:29 AM
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geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:24 AM
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:20 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:14 AM THere goes my homeboy!!!!

GEAUX DAVE!!!

Hi Heather!


HI Cat... and all everyone else...

I suppose as that I can't ride (nor run, swim, or even walk on my own two feet)  I just as soon get into following this full-force

It's kind of fun watching with 6yo at side for a while, too.

Sign on up...Im here every day....as are a few others

2009-07-04 11:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
geauxtri - 2009-07-04 12:26 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 10:24 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?
Seen the pro's do it often & have copied them myself. I've encountered no problem.


hmm.. once I can get on the trainer, I'll have to practice and tune and see if I can get it to work for me.  I find that if I shift in or out of this while on a hill, the tension is too much and throws the chain.


Depends on the bike.  I have a triple in front on my road bike and crossing is bad! On my tri bike, I have a compact double in front and I can get away with some crossing.  Also have better components on my tri bike (DuraAce vs. 105)
2009-07-04 11:30 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:28 AM

CHR15 TREE - 2009-07-04 5:25 PM I'll have a '99'!
trust you to want one with a stick of chocolate in it.

Hi CHR15

 

 

I did think about asking for chocolate dipped to!

2009-07-04 11:30 AM
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*bump*  the sound of Lance getting off the podium...


GEAUX LEVI!!!  He's holding tight... but for how long????
2009-07-04 11:31 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
4everblue - 2009-07-04 12:27 PM

Artemis - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 12:21 PM

Just heard an ice cream van go past the front door. Anyone want a cornet?



I believe you have to explain "cornets" for me.
Cone. what the ice cream goes in. I'm British, we speak funny.



Or we Americans speak funny.  Us and the dropping letters in words.   Either way. 


2009-07-04 11:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:28 AM
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:26 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:22 AM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?

In your Big Ring at the front... you *should* be able toride the smaller gears at the back...


that's exactly how I ride 80% of the time... my friends constantly accuse me of "mashing it out" .  But with my oak tree legs I can hack it out with no prob... I think maybe my legs are built for cycling...
The ONLY time I ever use my small cog on front is on med-big hills.

Mashing... you could be...

Are you spinning your legs? Or forcing down on the pedals... do you spin around or push down/up....

Hard to tel without seeing it... but just because its a big gear it doesnt mean you are mashing.... there is more toit than that!

2009-07-04 11:32 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:30 AM

4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:28 AM

CHR15 TREE - 2009-07-04 5:25 PM I'll have a '99'!
trust you to want one with a stick of chocolate in it.

Hi CHR15

 

 

I did think about asking for chocolate dipped to!



STOP IT!!! 
I'm barely finishing my coffee... and I can't be eating that fat without the ability to burn it....

I'm down to one oak tree leg and one wussy willow leg
2009-07-04 11:32 AM
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2009-07-04 11:32 AM
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geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:30 AM *bump*  the sound of Lance getting off the podium...


GEAUX LEVI!!!  He's holding tight... but for how long????

tee hee hee!!!

 

GO ROGERS!

2009-07-04 11:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:26 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 10:24 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?
Seen the pro's do it often & have copied them myself. I've encountered no problem.


hmm.. once I can get on the trainer, I'll have to practice and tune and see if I can get it to work for me.  I find that if I shift in or out of this while on a hill, the tension is too much and throws the chain.
Anticipation for what gear at the back you need. I never jump from BCR, big sproket to SCR big sprocket. I'll be somewhere in the middle of the cassette when I change, as Yes too much slack. And I get plenty of practice on my hills.



2009-07-04 11:33 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:32 AM
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:30 AM

4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:28 AM

CHR15 TREE - 2009-07-04 5:25 PM I'll have a '99'!
trust you to want one with a stick of chocolate in it.

Hi CHR15

 

 

I did think about asking for chocolate dipped to!



STOP IT!!! 
I'm barely finishing my coffee... and I can't be eating that fat without the ability to burn it....

I'm down to one oak tree leg and one wussy willow leg

I havent been on my gorgeous bike for AGES.... so... ummm... and I have no greatreason... well run down and sick but yeah...

If I wake up tomorrow the plan is to at least hop on it.. oh yeah that andI have a challenge to win so I better

mmmm I need coffeee....

2009-07-04 11:35 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:33 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:26 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 10:24 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?
Seen the pro's do it often & have copied them myself. I've encountered no problem.


hmm.. once I can get on the trainer, I'll have to practice and tune and see if I can get it to work for me.  I find that if I shift in or out of this while on a hill, the tension is too much and throws the chain.
Anticipation for what gear at the back you need. I never jump from BCR, big sproket to SCR big sprocket. I'll be somewhere in the middle of the cassette when I change, as Yes too much slack. And I get plenty of practice on my hills.

^^ what he said... I always change into easier gears BEFORE getting into the BCR....

I dont ride hills enough though tocomment too much of course

2009-07-04 11:36 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
Ok..I have to go get some lunch and run some errands, so I won't finish watching live.  Enjoy the rest of the stage! 
2009-07-04 11:37 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:32 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:28 AM
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:26 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-05 2:22 AM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?

In your Big Ring at the front... you *should* be able toride the smaller gears at the back...


that's exactly how I ride 80% of the time... my friends constantly accuse me of "mashing it out" .  But with my oak tree legs I can hack it out with no prob... I think maybe my legs are built for cycling...
The ONLY time I ever use my small cog on front is on med-big hills.

Mashing... you could be...

Are you spinning your legs? Or forcing down on the pedals... do you spin around or push down/up....

Hard to tel without seeing it... but just because its a big gear it doesnt mean you are mashing.... there is more toit than that!



There are times I mash... I think up/down (get to work hammies)
Then there are times I spin... I think forward motion and let my toes get forward and try to think "run" it out...
I mash on small declines and flats to build... I "spin" on uphills to *try* not to burn out and keep it non-aggressive.... and obviously, yes I MASH and MASH hard when the hills are short and steep...
2009-07-04 11:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1

Wow - Astana are all over it!



2009-07-04 11:38 AM
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I have one question. CHR15, why Grabsh? In no way demeaning that pick.

2009-07-04 11:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
Artemis - 2009-07-04 10:36 AM Ok..I have to go get some lunch and run some errands, so I won't finish watching live.  Enjoy the rest of the stage! 

You can't go now... not many riders left...

and what about ALBERTO!!!!
2009-07-04 11:39 AM
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4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:38 AM

I have one question. CHR15, why Grabsh? In no way demeaning that pick.

Oh come on... World TT Champion....

Even I can defend that pick! lol!

2009-07-04 11:40 AM
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Subject: RE: Stage 1
kaqphin - 2009-07-04 10:35 AM

4everblue - 2009-07-05 2:33 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:26 PM
4everblue - 2009-07-04 10:24 AM

geauxtri - 2009-07-04 5:22 PM Amatuer Cycling confusion....
Please clear.... 

They keep talking about riders (ie Dave, just now)  being on both large rings...
Wouldn't that be cross chaining?
I know for me as an extreme and with mid-line components, that would be near death of derailling.

Am I missing something?
Seen the pro's do it often & have copied them myself. I've encountered no problem.


hmm.. once I can get on the trainer, I'll have to practice and tune and see if I can get it to work for me.  I find that if I shift in or out of this while on a hill, the tension is too much and throws the chain.
Anticipation for what gear at the back you need. I never jump from BCR, big sproket to SCR big sprocket. I'll be somewhere in the middle of the cassette when I change, as Yes too much slack. And I get plenty of practice on my hills.

^^ what he said... I always change into easier gears BEFORE getting into the BCR....

I dont ride hills enough though tocomment too much of course


Oh yeah, I'm ALWAYS in the middle before changing...
Learned that one hard way...

Living on the edge of the Rockies... I get my share of hill practice...  Still got to build to some of these canyons though... Now I gotta wait til next year for those big climbs
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