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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So.. I have a confession to make - I didn't do any training yesterday (I was supposed to swim and run). Long-ish story short, I barely got any sleep on Thursday night. Part of this was because the dogs woke me (temporarily) at dawn (I think there was a deer in the yard and the dogs don't seem to get that as "hunters" they should be stalking the prey through the window, rather than scaring it off by barking at it through the window... Jenny - here is the question for you: I can (with your okay) do the run today (along with the scheduled bike) and could swim tomorrow (along with the scheduled run); and then get back to normal on Monday. Would that work, or do you think it would be too much for now? Edited by hgoudreau 2012-04-14 12:56 PM |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() LarchmontTri - 2012-04-14 1:17 PM hgoudreau - 2012-04-14 1:07 PM jaycee6 - 2012-04-13 11:15 PM Hm.. Can't remember who was having the iPad issues with line breaks. Looks like mine does the same thing. I was having the same issue with messages on my Blackberry.. I saw Bill's note about the html coding thing - would that work on a 'berry, too? trying to add a line break on my iPad...hopefully it'll work. haven't been able to connect to BT on my blackberry - any hints there? I have an internet browser on mine, and just access the page through that. To access the forums, I use the "full site" button, then head to forums and go from there. I can't get the "forum" option on the smartphone specific site to work for me. To access the logs, I use the smartphone specific link to my training logs. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() hgoudreau - 2012-04-14 1:54 PM So.. I have a confession to make - I didn't do any training yesterday (I was supposed to swim and run). Long-ish story short, I barely got any sleep on Thursday night. Part of this was because the dogs woke me (temporarily) at dawn (I think there was a deer in the yard and the dogs don't seem to get that as "hunters" they should be stalking the prey through the window, rather than scaring it off by barking at it through the window... Jenny - here is the question for you: I can (with your okay) do the run today (along with the scheduled bike) and could swim tomorrow (along with the scheduled run); and then get back to normal on Monday. Would that work, or do you think it would be too much for now? Heather, First of all, don't sweat it too much. We all have busy lives, and we all miss workouts every now and then. In most cases the most sensible thing to do when that happens is to just move on. Trying to make up missed workouts can create problems because you may end up trying to squeeze too much into a single day or two before you're ready. Since you are more focused on running now, I would say try to get the run in today if possible, and if you don't think it will impact your longer run on Sunday. That will leave you with one "missed" bike & swim. If you're feeling more well rested today and think you can handle it, you could also do the ride or swim today. If you do the ride, you might want to shorten it a bit, since you have a longer run tomorrow. I would plan on doing just the run tomorrow. Jenny Edited by jsnowash 2012-04-14 2:03 PM |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Set a new PR today for a half marathon distance. Old PR was 1:48:12. Today ran the distance in 1:43:47...4'25" faster! I'll try to get a race report done this evening. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dangremond - 2012-04-14 3:24 PM Set a new PR today for a half marathon distance. Old PR was 1:48:12. Today ran the distance in 1:43:47...4'25" faster! I'll try to get a race report done this evening. NICE!! Congratulations!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Little more detail on my run yesterday: http://connect.garmin.com/activity/167908009 The Full Marathon was starting at 7:15 and the Half at 8:45. I got up at 5:30 with the goal of getting to the race in time to get parking. I'd laid all my gear out the night before so I didn't miss anything. Made some coffee, ate a protein bar, mixed up a couple electrolyte bottles, and got on my way. Amazing how little traffic there is at 6:00AM on a Saturday. I arrived around 6:40AM, parked about four blocks from the start. Made my way over and picked up race packet. I milled around looking for Scott and my friend Chris who were both running the full. Saw Scott about 10 minutes before the start of the full and introduced myself. We chatted about MAF, our kids, and our race calendars. First impression is that he is a typical Midwesterner - friendly, solid, salt of the earth - and it doesn't hurt that he’s a UofM alum / fan! The full started and I found the porta potties, returned to my car, got my race belt, etc all set for the race and just chilled for a bit. Eventually made my way back to the start, took a short jog to warm up and re-calibrate my footpod, found the porta-potties AGAIN, spent an inordinate amount of time trying to get mulch out of my shoes and got ready to go. I had been sipping on an electrolyte water and had a gel about 15 minutes to the start. Also had one about 1 hour before start. Got into a starting spot and off we went. The race started on a narrow street and straight uphill for about 1 tenth of a mile. It was very slow and congested until it turned a corner. The first few miles were urban in the city of Dearborn. Closed course which is always nice. About three miles into race the course transitions onto Hines drive and is like running through a park for the remainder f the race on a two lane road. I sipped on the remainder of my electrolyte water for the first few miles and ditched the empty bottle at the second aid station. Mile markers were great and didn't use auto-lap but hit the lap button at every marker. I'm really excited that I was pretty much dead on at each marker meaning that I ran the lines of the course very good - I came up with 13.12 miles for the race. Not much extra effort/time in running extra distance. The course was rolling hills throughout - I did not expect that. I looked at past runners Garmin Connect files and the course look more flattish. I was lucky in that the wind and rain held off until the second half of the course. The "out" portion was great; the "in" or "back" portion had a fair degree of head winds and a bit of rain. I knew I was running faster than I had planned but was feeling good. Around mile 10 there was a good uphill into an aid station and I walked a bit. I then walked a few more times as I was starting to hit a wall. The last half mile or so I picked it up and pushed trying to pass as many people as possible. I ended with a 1:43:46 (official time gave me a second over my Garmin time - yay!)
Edited by dangremond 2012-04-15 4:14 PM |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dangremond: great race, buddy! That is a smoking pace. I hope it does indeed mean a great race season for you. Swimming update: you all were right. I do need to rotate my shoulder up on the breathing side, BUT I meant the other shoulder. I think I am lifting my whole head and neck out of water and not rotating well. I am new back in the water and still swimming from old bad habits. The swim smooth website is very helpful, but I just need to log some water time and drills. I did my long bike ride yesterday. 2 hours 45 minutes and about 46 miles. Had to deal with some traffic and wind, but all in all I was happy with the ride. I paid attention to my HR and that really helped stay on pace. I just love being outside rather than in spinning class or worse, the trainer. I always see something I had not seen before. I am just headed out now for a short run, 3 miles or so with the whole family - 3 runners, 2 bikers. Great way to spend a Sunday afternoon, I would say. Janette |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Congratulations on an amazing race Dangremond! Jaykaykay - envious of your long bike ride yesterday! Unfortunately I had to take the weekend off because of my knee - I'm not quite sure what's wrong with it so I didn't want to risk straining it unnecessarily. I'm going to go see a PT or my chiropractor tomorrow just to make sure everything is okay. Was disappointed because I was really itching to get outside and get some good long workouts in. SO convinced me that it's still early in the season (for us Canadians anyhow) and it's better to play it safe... |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dangremond - congrats on the half mary! Read your race report...you a Michigan alum too? I don't know Dearborn that well, but I didn't think there were that many hills. Oh well, I guess that shows what I know about Dearborn... Happy Monday to all. Hope everyone has a great week. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Spartan Alum here. I'll congratulate Dan anyway. Under protest ... Thinking positive thoughts (with some envy) about my friends running Boston today. I ran it in 2010 and it is a very special race. 6.1 EZ-paced miles this morning at about 9:15 min/mile. Avg HR 135. It's beginning to warm up down here - 71° at 5:30 AM, but it was a beautiful morning regardless. Swim planned for after work. Probably about 800 to 1000m or so. Bill |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I enjoyed a light run with hubby and kids last night. My husband is a natural athlete that hates organized cardio-exercise, but will compete with the best if it is part of work or an event where the cardio exercise is a byproduct of participating. Me, on the other hand, I am all about making the effort intentional. He was shocked when we went out for a family jog that he was huffing and puffing and I was talking away with the kids. I wanted to smirk, but I encouraged him to come again with me sometime! Monday is my off day, but I woke early so jumped on the elliptical and read my novel with my ipad. Great with enlarged print. I was giving some thought to race day nutrition. My race is a 49 mile bike race on a hilly course in cold weather, most likely. Let me run this past you guys for morning of race menu: steel cut oatmeal with banana, blueberries, a scoop of peanut butter and milk. Coconut electrolyte mix drink 1.5 hours before start. Two bottles on bike - one water, one Hammer Gel mix. Gel chew blocks in pocket with one 45 minutes in and second 1/2 hour later. I have struggled with the dilemna of drinking too much pre-race and then having to find a bathroom on the course which means squatting in the ditch in the cold (yes, this is Montana! - sorry if that is crass) and also having a hard time chewing anything substantial and actually swallow. I am not a good water drinker in the cold. I was actually thinking of using warmer water in my insulated bottle although it holds less water. Any suggestions? Janette |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Janette - haven't done a long enough race yet requiring nutrition planning so I'll be interested to see what people have to suggest. Went to see my PT today and I have mild patella tedonitis which is what I presumed anyways. It's a result of my hips shifting + flat feet. I have my knee taped and some stregthening exercises so I will be aiming for a 30min bike on the trainer. @Jenny - looks like I'm going to have to take the training down a notch and start building up again. What are your thoughts? I think I'm going to focus on swimming/biking this week and go for light runs as I think it's the running that's aggravating it the most. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() @Janette, I know nothing about coconut water, so I can't help ya. But steel cut oatmeal would definitly give me fits. That stuff seems like it takes FOREVER to digest in my gut; thus I'm bloated and burping and miserable. I usually go for a more easily digested carb. And I'm with you on the fluid intake. I used to drink too much in the morning and spend alot of time in the bushes. The majority of nutrition/hydration is accomplished in the days leading up to event. Not too much you can do the morning of. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm not a good one to ask about nutrition. I have an Iron stomach and can handle anything. Doubled up taday. (Earlier run already posted.) I swam after work today. Jenny wanted 500 meters but I swam 850 meters instead. Wanted to at least get warmed up! 3:00 / 100 meters, so slow. I feel like I have a nice stroke but the time says otherwise! Bill Edited by breger1 2012-04-16 8:17 PM |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I'm no expert on race day nutrition, but here's a few thoughts. Don't do anything new on race day, so if you're used to that pre-race meal, then ok. I would be wary of too much fiber though, especially on race day. Perhaps drink more Gatorade or other type fluids a day or so before the race. You want to make sure your body has enough electrolytes in your system. Too much water could flush a lot of them out. And perhaps you'd overestimating how much water your system needs on race day. Do you train with warm beverages now? I think Jeff may have said it already, but your race day nutrition starts a day or two earlier. Good luck! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey everybody! Sorry I was MIA yesterday... I went for a long ride yesterday - took a new route. I had planned on a 40-45 mile ride, but due to a few navigational errors, the ride ended up closer to 60 miles. Fortunately it was a BEAUTIFUL day for a ride, it just ate up more time than I was counting on... By the time I got home, ate, showered, and did the sorely needed grocery shopping, the kids were home from school and chauffeur, chef, and homework helper duty began -- and then our internet went out... Anyway, a few responses - @ Janette - for race day nutrition, the best advice is to go with something you've used before. Since your race is a relay, I'm guessing you won't be on the bike until a little later in the morning. If the breakfast you described is a pretty standard breakfast for you and you're generally able to train a few hours after eating it with no gastric upset, then it's probably okay. Oatmeal is a pretty standard breakfast for me, and it doesn't really cause me any problems... Another go-to breakfast for me on race mornings is peanut butter toast and a banana. I've definitely experienced problems with "over-hydrating" before a race, so I can relate to what you're saying there! If the temperature is going to be cooler, you probably won't need as much water as you might for the same time/distance on the bike in warmer conditions, but you definitely still need to drink. Have you used the nutrition you listed in your post (hammer gel & gel blocks) for longer training before? If so, and it hasn't caused you any problems, then that should be fine. Just make sure you have enough calories to sustain you for the 49 mile bike. Everyone's caloric needs are different, so it's hard to say exactly what you should count on, but, for reference, you and I are similar weight, and I do pretty well on about 150-200 calories per hour on the bike. If I remember correctly, I think this is a self-supported race - is that correct? Which means there will be no water hand-ups on the bike course... If that's the case, then I might be a little concerned about only 1 bottle of water on the bike. You might consider 2 bottles of water and non-diluted gel (either gel packets or a gel flask) and gel blocks - enough to supply the calories you'll need for the ride. Make sure you chase gel or gel blocks with water, otherwise it will just sit in your stomach and not do you much good. Consider taking in your nutrition on a schedule - perhaps every half hour or 45 minutes... Like I said, we're all different, but again for me, the equivalent of 1 gel (~ 100 calories) every 45 minutes or so seems to work pretty well. The simpler you can keep things the better.... A lot of people tend to over-complicate their nutrition I think, and/or over-do their nutrition and try to consume too many calories and end up feeling bloated or with upset stomachs. @ Joey - bummer about the patellar tendonitis.... You should listen to your PT regarding what kinds of activities are okay for you for now. I'm guessing running is probably out for now, but ask your PT if you can do some water running (aqua-jogging), or use an eliptical trainer (assuming you have access to one at a gym) as a substitute for running while you heal. I'm assuming swimming will be okay, and cycling may or may not be okay. Like I said, get clearance from your PT, and let me know what he/she says is okay for you in terms of swim/bike/run training, and I'll re-work your schedule. @ Bill - Looks like we need to add some more swimming to your plan ![]() |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jsnowash - 2012-04-17 6:01 AM @ Bill - Looks like we need to add some more swimming to your plan ![]() I knew I shoulda just said I swam 500 meters ... This morning I did a Bike and Run brick. 12.5 miles on the Walmart Special and then 3 miles at GA pace running. This was probably the last bike ride on my old clunker, as I get fitted for my new Scott Foil after work tonight. This will be fun! I do notice I'm getting tired from the Bike and Swims. New, long-idle muscles being called to duty, so to speak. Tomorrow is scheduled for a Tempo run and I'll be curious to see what my body thinks of that given everything else I'm asking it to do. Bring it! I mentioned yesterday being a bit envious of the Boston runners. After following a bunch of friends who ran it, I'm not envious any more. That was one tough running day. Everyone who ran it showed their Toughness for sure. Bill |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Had a good sprint/run interval session this morning on my treadmill, though it definitely was challenging. Last night life got in the way and I couldn't do my planned training session, so I was up early this morning. (note to self - don't forget to set the timer on the coffee maker next time...) My plan is to get to the pool tonight for a swim session. Btw, it's fantastic weather here in the NY metro area, so it's too bad the pool's roof doesn't retract like Toronto's Skydome. Oh well. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() 6.5 in horrible weather; windy, rainy, almost cold. Tried my sons NB Minimus shoes-not too bad, felt alot like my VFFs. I would wear them over the VFFs on the roads. Group ride scheduled for this evening-not much mileage, so maybe I'll run brick afterwards. Weekend weather is looking FANTASTIC. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Thanks for the comments on the nutrition. My menu is not that much different than a normal morning with the exception of adding the electrolyte water. I am an oatmeal fan and have tried all different kinds, much to the dismay of my kids who complain about my "horse feed" breakfasts. Of course, I remind them that Captain Crunch does nasty things to the roof of your mouth. Nice bike ride this morning - 60 minutes - good intensity. I am waiting for a gear shipment as I have decided to put some clip on aerobars onto my road bike for this weekend. I think my wrists could use a little break. Jaycee: Sorry about the patella issues. I struggled with those when I played basketball in college. Ended up wearing funky knee braces that lifted the patella up a tad to relieve pressure. I have decided that knees, in general, were very poorly engineered by the Big Guy. Enjoy all the nice weather. My husband is a rancher and he is always watching the weather, hoping for rain. I am fine with rain so long as it isn't snowing in the mountains on Sunday race day! Janette |
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Regular![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() jaykayjay - 2012-04-17 12:07 PM Thanks for the comments on the nutrition. My menu is not that much different than a normal morning with the exception of adding the electrolyte water. I am an oatmeal fan and have tried all different kinds, much to the dismay of my kids who complain about my "horse feed" breakfasts. Of course, I remind them that Captain Crunch does nasty things to the roof of your mouth. Nice bike ride this morning - 60 minutes - good intensity. I am waiting for a gear shipment as I have decided to put some clip on aerobars onto my road bike for this weekend. I think my wrists could use a little break. Jaycee: Sorry about the patella issues. I struggled with those when I played basketball in college. Ended up wearing funky knee braces that lifted the patella up a tad to relieve pressure. I have decided that knees, in general, were very poorly engineered by the Big Guy. Enjoy all the nice weather. My husband is a rancher and he is always watching the weather, hoping for rain. I am fine with rain so long as it isn't snowing in the mountains on Sunday race day! Janette Janette: exciting about those aero bars! which ones did you end up getting? i went to look at a couple at LBSs this weekend but got a little overwhelmed by the selection. I'm bummed about this little setback as mentally I just want to gogogo! In the long run though I suppose a little rest is for the best. Good luck with the bike ride this weekend!! We'll want a detailed race report including all your nutrition info! |
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Member![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Got in a decent pool workout this evening. Not sure about you, but no matter how much I work on my form and stroke mechanics, I still don't think anybody will mistake me for a really good swimmer. I know we don't have to be expert swimmers per se, but it would be nice to feel some of that swimmer's zen at some point. Today was my first double workout day of 2012. Interval running in the am and a pool session this evening...damn, I'm tired. |
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New user![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hi folks, I switched my Tuesday and Wednesday workouts this week. I was supposed to bike tonight but it was COLD (5 degrees celcius - which translates to 41 degrees fahrenheit) and due to having to pick my husband up at the last minute, I was low on daylight. So, I'll bike tomorrow (or maybe bring stuff to work for spinning, just in case..) and ran tonight. The weather is going to get worse before it gets better. Forecast is calling for mix of snow and rain this weekend. This may result in my planned bike ride being changed to a spin class (I don't like biking when the temps are near freezing). Plan for tonight's run called for an easy run with some strides thrown in. Strides are lots of fun (I've never really tried them before - at least, not intentionally). Except for the first 10 minutes, which was run into a vicious headwind, the run was one of the best I've had (feeling-wise) in ages!
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Strides ARE kind of fun, aren't they?? Yesterday was an easy 4 mile run and recovery swim for me. Long run on tap today. |
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