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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Does anyone have a slow-mo of the sideline thing. I honestly can't see how he falls or if it was malicious. Not saying it wasn't, just can't see it and would love to see it slowed down As usual in this thread Josh you completely miss the point. Were there missed calls on both sides in regards to holding etc, yes. There always are. I haven't brought up ones that are judgement calls. There was holding on the big return by the Seahawks as well. I chalk that up to the game. But giving the ball to Seattle on two different occasions is just silly. And fans that are too obsessed by their own teams to even admit that are just a waste of time. One of my good friends is a huge Seahawk fan and was at the game. I can't wait till he gets back to have a rational discussion about the game where he won't claim that the Seahawks were perfect, the refs never do wrong except to Seattle etc. Again, Seattle wonders why no one outside of Seattle likes most of their fans. Most are about as classy as Sherman and throw food and trash on injured players leaving the field. Go Broncos! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I will say that on the play where Seattle fumble and Bowman recovered it, I did not see him recover it until they replayed it in slow motion from a different angle, so I was surprised to see him holding the ball when he was on his back. hard to believe that all the officials did not see it, but they did get the ball right back. Any word on what Bowman's injury is?
Also on the unsportsmanlike penalty on the sideline. It looked like the Seatlle player when pushed, got pushed into one of the officials holding the yardage stick and to me it looked like that influenced that call. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by spudone Originally posted by uclamatt2007 Originally posted by spudone We don't have to ask a Seahawk fan, we have been told: often, repeatedly, and over and over. Originally posted by bradword What makes it delusional is acting like it didn't happen. When buck and troy can actually see it and you can't that's amazing. I fully admit they got away with a couple in GB, and so did GB. Today was a different story that again changed the outcome of the game. 1 call might have changed it - the running into vs. roughing call. Or might not. 1st down after a roughing call doesn't guarantee SF would've continued that drive for a TD. Yeah it would be great if every call was instantly reviewed with no delay but you get what you get. Ask the Seahawks what they thought of the ref work last time they were in the Superbowl. So we need to live with the refs but you don't. Ok Not at all. Everyone can complain, especially right after athe game. If we are still complaining about it in 8 years, I would say the same thing about our fans though. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by uclamatt2007 Originally posted by powerman I'm sick of this ridiculous idea that one play is reviewable and another is not when the whole country can see a blown call. A coach gets 3 reviews period, end of story. Of ANY THING. Penalty, possession, turnover, score... ANYTHING. 3 per game. Use them wisely. Quit your complaining, it's your call. We've had instant replay for years. We all like it. It isn't going anywhere. Let's finish it, and finally do it right. Mike Perera tells the entire country within two minutes it was the wrong call and it should be SF ball with first down and nothing can be done. I can't even comprehend how they got the turnover on the goal line wrong... But it isn't reviewable when the country and stadium sees it's wrong. Hell I'm sure the refs looked at the jumbo tron and knew it was wrong but it stands. Ridiculous. Forget the coach's challenges Why should the coach only be able to change 3 wrong calls? Review every single call with a booth official, not sideline viewing stations. I don't even agree with that. It's a game. The refs are going to make calls. they do it right the vast majority of the time... but if you have a beef, then challenge it. You can't wait for a officials review on every play, and it would pretty much have to be that... forget bout hurry up offense... games would take 6 hours. College football reviews all plays (at least the ones technically reviewable) during the game. The official can stop the game only if there is something that needs a closer look. typically the reviews take less than one minute. The nfl could speed it up by have the headset on the body of an official to eliminate the the trip to the sideline. I'd rather see the game called correctly then watch a game where a team gets screwed 4 times and only has 3 challenges. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jford2309 I will say that on the play where Seattle fumble and Bowman recovered it, I did not see him recover it until they replayed it in slow motion from a different angle, so I was surprised to see him holding the ball when he was on his back. hard to believe that all the officials did not see it, but they did get the ball right back. Any word on what Bowman's injury is?
Also on the unsportsmanlike penalty on the sideline. It looked like the Seatlle player when pushed, got pushed into one of the officials holding the yardage stick and to me it looked like that influenced that call. Bowman tore an ACL. Im amazed that he held on to the ball all the way to the ground. Truly great defensive play. I saw him take the ball away during real time but I figured that he must have lost it on the way to the ground since the officials didn't blow the play dead. The personal foul at the end of the half was a pretty ticky tack call, especially for the way the games between these teams go. The first thing a defensive back is taught to do when the receiver tips the ball is to shove the receiver out of the way. It was a touch late but I think there is worse in most every game that goes uncalled. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by uclamatt2007 Originally posted by powerman College football reviews all plays (at least the ones technically reviewable) during the game. The official can stop the game only if there is something that needs a closer look. typically the reviews take less than one minute. The nfl could speed it up by have the headset on the body of an official to eliminate the the trip to the sideline. I'd rather see the game called correctly then watch a game where a team gets screwed 4 times and only has 3 challenges. Originally posted by uclamatt2007 Originally posted by powerman I'm sick of this ridiculous idea that one play is reviewable and another is not when the whole country can see a blown call. A coach gets 3 reviews period, end of story. Of ANY THING. Penalty, possession, turnover, score... ANYTHING. 3 per game. Use them wisely. Quit your complaining, it's your call. We've had instant replay for years. We all like it. It isn't going anywhere. Let's finish it, and finally do it right. Mike Perera tells the entire country within two minutes it was the wrong call and it should be SF ball with first down and nothing can be done. I can't even comprehend how they got the turnover on the goal line wrong... But it isn't reviewable when the country and stadium sees it's wrong. Hell I'm sure the refs looked at the jumbo tron and knew it was wrong but it stands. Ridiculous. Forget the coach's challenges Why should the coach only be able to change 3 wrong calls? Review every single call with a booth official, not sideline viewing stations. I don't even agree with that. It's a game. The refs are going to make calls. they do it right the vast majority of the time... but if you have a beef, then challenge it. You can't wait for a officials review on every play, and it would pretty much have to be that... forget bout hurry up offense... games would take 6 hours. At the end of the day, it will still be players making plays that determine games. I'm tired of obvious wrong calls going... the fact SF got the ball back after the goal line play is not good enough... SF lost a key player that play... but what if they lost a key player on the defense the next play... when the defense should have not been on the field... and we all know SEA could have scored. No reason at all for such blown calls to go forward... especially as silly as ... it's non-reviewable... no... actually, the entire country just reviewed it and it was wrong. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Am I the only one blown away by the call on the punt? It wasn't even a missed call, the refs actually didn't know the rule at all and got it wrong and turned the ball over to Seattle. How is that a non issue? And there was no karma fumble to counter it. Seattle scored a touchdown on that drive. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman I don't think every play should be reviewed. But I agree every play should be challengeable and the coach issuing the challenge should get to say what is in dispute. Also, 3 challenges is fine to prevent abuse, but you should always get your challenge refunded if you are correct.Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Kido What can I say? - I'm pleased! I like Tom Brady, but can't say I felt bad for him watching him hang his head on the bench for 20 straight minutes! It was funny, the first possession of the game by NE and seeing Devers defense? They came to PLAY. I don't think I ever saw them play that hard all year. I got a text from a friend who is a Pitt fan but still watched the playoffs and he said exactly they same thing - like reading my mind... I'll give credit to the best defense in the NFL this season - but they never played against the best offense OF ALL TIME yet... And no 12th man thing? If I were to bet, NY may be more of a "home field" for Denver - for so many reasons... I'm actually considering jumping on a flight and going to Denver if they win for the parade. I was living there during the big run of them in the late 90's and it sure would be good to do that again! So here's my deal.... I have always said.. defense wins Championships. Running games win Championships. Seattle has both. Football in Jan-Feb is not the same as September. It is going to be hard to beat Seattle. Having said that... if weather is bad, it is going to be bad for both. Neither are cold weather teams. Denver has a running game. Denver has too many offensive weapons to cover. Denver's defense has been better despite all the losses they have. The "X" factor... experience. Denver is young... but they have Manning, Welker, Fox, Del Rio, Elway... they have all been there done that. Invariably, they can say what they want, but the pressure of the Super Bowl gets to players... and one team seems to show up and is a deer in headlights. Maybe not that bad, but they do not play as well as we know they can play. I'm going to say that will be Seattle. Denver is hot... all the nay sayers about San Diego... Brady/Bilicheck... Manning/legacy and now for two weeks we are going to hear about how hungry and young Seattle is blah blah blah.... I do not think Denver is going to be denied. I think Denver is going to win... I think it is going to be really hard.
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by bradword Am I the only one blown away by the call on the punt? It wasn't even a missed call, the refs actually didn't know the rule at all and got it wrong and turned the ball over to Seattle. How is that a non issue? And there was no karma fumble to counter it. Seattle scored a touchdown on that drive. Exactly... you are not the only one.... Mike Perrera can't even call in and say wait... wrong call! ... no not "missed" call... actually wrong rule enforcement. It's very silly. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by bradword Am I the only one blown away by the call on the punt? It wasn't even a missed call, the refs actually didn't know the rule at all and got it wrong and turned the ball over to Seattle. How is that a non issue? And there was no karma fumble to counter it. Seattle scored a touchdown on that drive. Exactly... you are not the only one.... Mike Perrera can't even call in and say wait... wrong call! ... no not "missed" call... actually wrong rule enforcement. It's very silly. I think football needs things like baseball. I want to see a manager go on the field, kick grass at the ref for blowing a call and get tossed. That would be awesome. And no need to penalize the team, just throw the guy out. I still don't get how the crew didn't get together and say yeah, he hit the plant foot and that auto 15 yards. Talk! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() The other call in the game that I can't believe they missed,(but really didn't effect the outcome at all) was the massive facemask on the bobbled punt by James. Lockette made a good clean initial hit, then as he went over James, he reached back, grabbed the his facemask, and ripped his helmet completely off his head. It wasn't intentional, but it was brutal. I just don't see how you miss that. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. While I agree and understand that it is not going away, I think it does delay the game. Instead of a traditional time out to take the wind out of the other treams momentum they do a challenge which I believe is much longer, on average. (Still trying to verify that #). As to your final statement, then why not replay every single play? Why only limit it to certain plays? |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. While I agree and understand that it is not going away, I think it does delay the game. Instead of a traditional time out to take the wind out of the other treams momentum they do a challenge which I believe is much longer, on average. (Still trying to verify that #). As to your final statement, then why not replay every single play? Why only limit it to certain plays? Which is why they are charged a time out if they are wrong... if they are right, they deserve to have it corrected... and they only get 3 challenges... it isn't like they can challenge everything every time. As far as your last question...exactly. Everything should be re-viewable... everything. You get three challenges, 3 time outs... use them wisely. If players stand around for an hour waiting for commercial breaks... we can afford 10 minutes. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I am more for doing away with instant replay! Yeah, calls are missed, but that is what gives way to the rivalry games. I hate the stoppage of play, seeing a play 15 times on TV. I htink everything could be called right IN SLOW MOTION!!! fouls are missed in Bball, calls are missed in Baseball, calls will be missed in football. It happens |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jford2309 I am more for doing away with instant replay! Yeah, calls are missed, but that is what gives way to the rivalry games. I hate the stoppage of play, seeing a play 15 times on TV. I htink everything could be called right IN SLOW MOTION!!! fouls are missed in Bball, calls are missed in Baseball, calls will be missed in football. It happens I don't get the baseball analogy. They're expanding instant replay next year to cover just about everything except balls and strikes. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jford2309 I am more for doing away with instant replay! Yeah, calls are missed, but that is what gives way to the rivalry games. I hate the stoppage of play, seeing a play 15 times on TV. I htink everything could be called right IN SLOW MOTION!!! fouls are missed in Bball, calls are missed in Baseball, calls will be missed in football. It happens There is no logical argument that can be made to knowingly accept bad calls in games that can change outcomes. Let the players play, what happens happens. Don't say it didn't when the whole stadium can see it did. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. While I agree and understand that it is not going away, I think it does delay the game. Instead of a traditional time out to take the wind out of the other treams momentum they do a challenge which I believe is much longer, on average. (Still trying to verify that #). As to your final statement, then why not replay every single play? Why only limit it to certain plays? Which is why they are charged a time out if they are wrong... if they are right, they deserve to have it corrected... and they only get 3 challenges... it isn't like they can challenge everything every time. As far as your last question...exactly. Everything should be re-viewable... everything. You get three challenges, 3 time outs... use them wisely. If players stand around for an hour waiting for commercial breaks... we can afford 10 minutes. And to the point of reviewing, a coach can use the challenges as wisely as Moses but if he had 3 challenges, won all three and then the worlds worst call is made he is screwed. And so is the team. And the delay is longer. Like this article (http://ideas.time.com/2013/12/07/lets-review-50-years-of-instant-replay/). 4 minutes versus a 2 minute TV time out. Although this article claims it is not affecting the game (http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/7/5/3138647/nfl-instant-replay-not-causing-games-to-drag). Either way, I'm a luddite when it comes to replay. Don't like it. Nothing will make me like it. Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!. |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by jford2309 I am more for doing away with instant replay! Yeah, calls are missed, but that is what gives way to the rivalry games. I hate the stoppage of play, seeing a play 15 times on TV. I htink everything could be called right IN SLOW MOTION!!! fouls are missed in Bball, calls are missed in Baseball, calls will be missed in football. It happens There is no logical argument that can be made to knowingly accept bad calls in games that can change outcomes. Let the players play, what happens happens. Don't say it didn't when the whole stadium can see it did. Then review the game afterwards and grade the refs. If they miss calls that were no brainers, then fine them or penalize them somehow. There will never be a perfectly called game. I hate the replay cause IMO it kills momentum |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 Originally posted by powerman Originally posted by crowny2 I've hated replay since they instituted it. The game is a played by humans and officiated by humans. Therefore mistakes will be made. They have always been made and they always will be made. Replay has changed how the game is played. Not just the call but the actual tempo. You cannot get every call right. It is impossible. To me, the game was better off without it. Well, it's not going away. And I do not think it delays the game much or takes away from play. I forgot how games actually go since I had not been to one in a while. I took me half the game to realize why in the heck all the player just stand around doing nothing all the time... it's a commercial break. So I pay good money to go to a game and watch players stand around all the time so viewers at how can watch commercials... .b ut ad revenue helps pay for the game so there you are. So we can delay a game an hour or so for add revenue... but we can't delay it two minutes to correct a mistake? These guys train their butts off to be the best they can be, and to have it missed by a ref, when we have 30 cameras on it is just silly. The only ones penalized by mistake should be the players losing the game for the mistakes they made... not from the calls the ref makes. And no, I do not think refs favor a team... they just make mistakes... and they are very very good at what they do... but we have replay. While I agree and understand that it is not going away, I think it does delay the game. Instead of a traditional time out to take the wind out of the other treams momentum they do a challenge which I believe is much longer, on average. (Still trying to verify that #). As to your final statement, then why not replay every single play? Why only limit it to certain plays? Which is why they are charged a time out if they are wrong... if they are right, they deserve to have it corrected... and they only get 3 challenges... it isn't like they can challenge everything every time. As far as your last question...exactly. Everything should be re-viewable... everything. You get three challenges, 3 time outs... use them wisely. If players stand around for an hour waiting for commercial breaks... we can afford 10 minutes. And to the point of reviewing, a coach can use the challenges as wisely as Moses but if he had 3 challenges, won all three and then the worlds worst call is made he is screwed. And so is the team. And the delay is longer. Like this article (http://ideas.time.com/2013/12/07/lets-review-50-years-of-instant-replay/). 4 minutes versus a 2 minute TV time out. Although this article claims it is not affecting the game (http://www.ninersnation.com/2012/7/5/3138647/nfl-instant-replay-not-causing-games-to-drag). Either way, I'm a luddite when it comes to replay. Don't like it. Nothing will make me like it. Now, GET OFF MY LAWN!. But that is just it.. the competition committee understand it won't be perfect... but it gives a little break. It's a compromise... I also think if you get all three right, you should get a 4th. But that is fine, we can leave it at three... there are not that many plays challenged. It is usually for points. Lots of games do not even have a challenge. So these game changing plays are not occurring with regularity in every game. And you can even see coaches not willing to give up a time out on a questionable call... it has to be irrefutable, or what call made stands. So there are all kinds of checks to balance out replay. The checks work. Coaches do not challenge willy nilly. Let's just allow them to cover every play.... Look at SF... they challenge and get the ball on the one yard... Kap fumbles and Seahawks score a TD. If you change the game, anything good or bad can happen after... it's your call. But I'll bet any pay check SF would have chose to get the ball... because you do not know if Seattle would score next play. You take the sure call to keep points off the board... or points on the board.... or gain possession. But not for a simple holding to keep from punting. I should probably just move on... but Happy Festivus!!! |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jford2309 I am more for doing away with instant replay! Yeah, calls are missed, but that is what gives way to the rivalry games. I hate the stoppage of play, seeing a play 15 times on TV. I htink everything could be called right IN SLOW MOTION!!! fouls are missed in Bball, calls are missed in Baseball, calls will be missed in football. It happens Yeah but only the last 2 minutes of a basketball game matter, the rest is a waste of time. Oh, and nobody likes bball.
As far as the game, yes the fumble recovery was a bad call, but didn't do much to change the game IMO. I can understand that the hitting the punter call was wrong based on the rule but I think the rule should change. The hawk looked like he was going for the ball, had no intention to hit the punter and an accident occurred. I don't think possession should change over something so minor. They should have to be able to "prove intent" to give the 15 yard auto first down penalty. We have all seen someone blatantly roughing a kicker, and then you have what happened on Sunday, a player who was clearly going for the ball and had no intent to hit the kicker. At the end of the day the Hawks outplayed the 9'ers IMO. I don't like either team, I am hoping Peyton crushes the Hawks, but I don't think the game was won or lost by the officials. Turnovers played a huge part. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I watched most of the 49ers - Seahwaks game. I am not a huge football fan and not a big rule buff but I thought it was a hard fought game and one that I enjoyed watching from a purely game playing standpoint. The whole missed calls issue I think comes down to how complicated the rules are and how many variations there can be especially when you have a rule called "roughing the kicker" that can be call for what looks like, to a non football fan, incidental contact. I understand kickers are exposed during the course of kicking so need special rules but if the rule as it exists calls that "roughing" you should rename and simplify the rule. As far as the whole review piece goes I side with the "human" component. The refs are human and maybe they miss calls or misremember rules sometimes. that is part of the game itself - having to deal with those situations. If we are going to second guess every call being made right or wrong, I am fine with reviewing individuals ref's calls after a game to determine how well they are doing, what they are catching, and if they should have a refresher course before being allowed to ref again but let the people play the game and let the refs make the calls in real time. |
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I vote for less replays on injury plays. They must have played Bowman's knee getting destroyed 10 times. My knee was aching just watching it. Reports are he tore the ACL and the MCL, surgery on one, rest for the other. Sure looked painful! |
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Pro ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Bring back the replacement refs!!! The regular refs are incompetent! |
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