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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() tdl1972 - 2012-02-11 9:18 PM SSMinnow - 2012-02-10 12:53 PM tdl1972 - 2012-02-10 10:00 AM Ten days into this month and my goals for the month are pretty much shot already. Between problems with my foot - all good now, btw - and now allegies, I can't seem to get any consistent training in. I swam yesterday morning despite my allergies and spent the rest of the day miserable because of it. I am supposed to run this evening, but I am thinking that may not be a good idea either at this point. So my question is this: Should I just scratch the last two weeks and pick back up with my training plan and go from there, or should I try to go back a week and skip the recovery week next week since I haven't really been building a base the last two weeks anyway? FYI, the plan is geared toward a sprint at the end of April. The last two weeks were listed as "base" with a recovery week coming next week. That would have me training the next four weeks in a row before another recovery week, (unless something else falls apart)?
How much time have you really lost (missed workouts)? If it is truly 10 days, I would back the whole thing up. Plans build and if you've missed base time you will be starting at a volume higher than you've trained for, right? I would play the recovery week by ear. If you need it after those two weeks, take it. As you can see, time off for injury/illness is way worse than time off for good behavior. I missed whole three days from the first week of February and 3/4 of the run workouts this past week. I will also miss my long bike ride tomorrow and possibly more heading into next week as I am still sick. First, feel better! If it were me, I would start exactly where you left off after those three days. It seems to me that a small step back might be best especially since you are still sick. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We're heading home tonight. We were alerted our flight left LA four hours late so of course it is arriving late into Kauai. Should be interesting once we get to LA since we had less than a 60' layover....let the fun begin! Make it a great Sunday peeps. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Love white boards! We use two on a daily basis around here. First month of IM training is in the books! Will I ever feel recovered before taper? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I have to agree on John's running zones - they look too low. I guess he has lots of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed. These are my estimated zones from 2010 (still using them) based on a 10k I did that year. I've recently been guessing that these are low for me and I'm a couple age groups up. edit: the bike zones look too low too. Does the EN plan have you doing some testing soon? It will be interesting to see where you really are.
Edited by dcon 2012-02-12 7:34 AM (dan's run hr zones 2010.JPG) Attachments ---------------- dan's run hr zones 2010.JPG (36KB - 4 downloads) |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() mighty mom - 2012-02-12 5:49 AMLove white boards! We use two on a daily basis around here. Realistically...... Yes and no.So many ups and downs. Enjoy!!First month of IM training is in the books! Will I ever feel recovered before taper? |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Holy Toledo! There is some FAST water in Panama this morning!! I checked up on my gal, Bree Wee, and she averaged 1:07/100 METERS in her swim (that's like 1:00/100 yards). Zoom!! So I checked up on Lance Armstrong, and he averaged 1:01/100M (that's like :54/100!!). Clearly they have a current or a short course! But what's impressive is that Lance was in 10th after the swim. The cycling is listed in km, so I need to get some conversion going to appreciate their cycling speeds. You km folks can have fun tracking the results today! Make it a great day, everyone! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() stupid nike commercial. i wake up at 6:45 this morning. lie in bed thinking its sunday, i can sleep in. no need to get up out of the toasty bed to go run. it 15 degrees out, wind chill is 5. then this stupid commercial pops into my head. 20 minutes later i'm standing in the cold grey light of dawn, freezing. and smiling. off we go. Edited by fattyfatfat 2012-02-12 9:52 AM |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() kkcbelle - 2012-02-12 8:46 AM Holy Toledo! There is some FAST water in Panama this morning!! I checked up on my gal, Bree Wee, and she averaged 1:07/100 METERS in her swim (that's like 1:00/100 yards). Zoom!! So I checked up on Lance Armstrong, and he averaged 1:01/100M (that's like :54/100!!). Clearly they have a current or a short course! But what's impressive is that Lance was in 10th after the swim. The cycling is listed in km, so I need to get some conversion going to appreciate their cycling speeds. You km folks can have fun tracking the results today! Make it a great day, everyone! That's some fast times out there. <19min swims!! Lance almost did it. Docherty was sure not even talked about was he? Off for a run! Have a great one |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fattyfatfat - 2012-02-12 8:51 AM stupid nike commercial. i wake up at 6:45 this morning. lie in bed thinking its sunday, i can sleep in. no need to get up out of the toasty bed to go run. it 15 degrees out, wind chill is 5. then this stupid commercial pops into my head. 20 minutes later i'm standing in the cold grey light of dawn, freezing. and smiling. off we go. 6:45 sleeping in? nice! Terps probably had ~10 miles in by then!!
ha. Good job getting after it this morning!!! |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() all the lance haters just choked on their coffee. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Lance is just incredible. I was in awe of his bike time... and I thought to myself, "Second place bike. And chances are, he still has some legs to run." A 1:17 run??? Amazing!! Such a gifted athlete. Thanks for the commercial, John! Had never seen it. Good on ya for getting your run on in the cold morning!! You, my friend, are an inspiration!! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2012-02-12 11:06 AM fattyfatfat - 2012-02-12 8:51 AM stupid nike commercial. i wake up at 6:45 this morning. lie in bed thinking its sunday, i can sleep in. no need to get up out of the toasty bed to go run. it 15 degrees out, wind chill is 5. then this stupid commercial pops into my head. 20 minutes later i'm standing in the cold grey light of dawn, freezing. and smiling. off we go. 6:45 sleeping in? nice! Terps probably had ~10 miles in by then!!
ha. Good job getting after it this morning!!! Ha! not on Sunday.... John, what a way to be inspired! I teared up when the man limped with his dad around the track and the ladies crawled to the IM finish. Makes me want to get back out there right now. Lance was amazing this morning in Panama! |
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![]() fattyfatfat - 2012-02-12 10:51 AM stupid nike commercial. i wake up at 6:45 this morning. lie in bed thinking its sunday, i can sleep in. no need to get up out of the toasty bed to go run. it 15 degrees out, wind chill is 5. then this stupid commercial pops into my head. 20 minutes later i'm standing in the cold grey light of dawn, freezing. and smiling. off we go.
Thanks for the cry, John. That last clip, just wow. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Wow. That's some type of Sunday morning inspiration. Thanks, John! Happy Sunday, everyone. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() cbarnes1 - 2012-02-12 5:11 PM When did John get all sappy? One week down, 19 to go! sappy. oh! that's an easy one. once i signed up for a beach start IM. gotta see how all you little girls at cda and canada live. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I know this one guy, he did an IM this year... Swam in a tiny little canal. When he got tired of swimming, well he could just stand up and walk. |
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Elite ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() We bought a dyson today. Wow do they suck. ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() fattyfatfat - 2012-02-12 12:51 PM stupid nike commercial. i wake up at 6:45 this morning. lie in bed thinking its sunday, i can sleep in. no need to get up out of the toasty bed to go run. it 15 degrees out, wind chill is 5. then this stupid commercial pops into my head. 20 minutes later i'm standing in the cold grey light of dawn, freezing. and smiling. off we go.
Nice....thanks. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() dcon - 2012-02-12 7:24 AM I have to agree on John's running zones - they look too low. I guess he has lots of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed. These are my estimated zones from 2010 (still using them) based on a 10k I did that year. I've recently been guessing that these are low for me and I'm a couple age groups up. edit: the bike zones look too low too. Does the EN plan have you doing some testing soon? It will be interesting to see where you really are.
Why do they seem low? relative to what? I bet if you looked at Kim's you would say the same thing. I think HR numbers are incredibly individual. I just did a LT run test. My LT HR dropped 7 beats (from 168 to 161) from the August test yet my pace was :16/m faster. I consider that a good thing. The only thing I find interesting in these is there is no span in Z5. Like you, I use 5a, 5b, 5c. I couldn't tell you how they figure into anything however. I never see go out and run 10' Z5b, instead I see VO2 workouts that somehow must take that into consideration. I'm assuming EN has a reason for the way they do things too. Right John or Dino? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Scalded_Dawg - 2012-02-12 4:27 AM dalessit - 2012-02-11 8:32 AM fattyfatfat - 2012-02-10 8:59 PM Scalded_Dawg - 2012-02-10 8:44 PM David - I think you look great! ... : ) keep it in the air force, bro. HA! GO NAVY! I spent 3 years in the Navy! Luckily we has female sailors on board... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SSMinnow - 2012-02-12 10:49 AM fattyfatfat - 2012-02-11 4:09 PM i went to target this morning an bought white board for my trainer workouts. this worked out really well. i like not having to think about the workout... just do whats written and keep it in the zone. not sure if its related but i usually don't like the trainer.. today was an 1:15.. i didn't even realize i was on that long until after i was done. here's the view from my bike.
I'm equally curious about what's going on in that room? Is that a velour sofa next to your water heater? Not much of a man cave if you ask me! I really like that you're so into the EN model. Dineen must have had quite an effect on you! I agree with the others, how long until you get the Powertap?
It's a great idea, I'm just picturing you out on your run holding this in front of you! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() SSMinnow - 2012-02-12 7:38 PM dcon - 2012-02-12 7:24 AM I have to agree on John's running zones - they look too low. I guess he has lots of untapped potential waiting to be unleashed. These are my estimated zones from 2010 (still using them) based on a 10k I did that year. I've recently been guessing that these are low for me and I'm a couple age groups up. edit: the bike zones look too low too. Does the EN plan have you doing some testing soon? It will be interesting to see where you really are.
Why do they seem low? relative to what? I bet if you looked at Kim's you would say the same thing. I think HR numbers are incredibly individual. I just did a LT run test. My LT HR dropped 7 beats (from 168 to 161) from the August test yet my pace was :16/m faster. I consider that a good thing. The only thing I find interesting in these is there is no span in Z5. Like you, I use 5a, 5b, 5c. I couldn't tell you how they figure into anything however. I never see go out and run 10' Z5b, instead I see VO2 workouts that somehow must take that into consideration. I'm assuming EN has a reason for the way they do things too. Right John or Dino? I agree with Suzy. Heart rate zones are highly individual based on age, size, testing conditions & endurance capability. It's nice to see those numbers come down over time. |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() TrevorC - 2012-02-12 7:08 PM We bought a dyson today. Wow do they suck. ![]() awesome. you bought a dyson and cubby cheeks wins panama. great day for Canada. the other cheeks, kim...
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() copa2251 - 2012-02-12 7:59 PM SSMinnow - 2012-02-12 10:49 AM fattyfatfat - 2012-02-11 4:09 PM i went to target this morning an bought white board for my trainer workouts. this worked out really well. i like not having to think about the workout... just do whats written and keep it in the zone. not sure if its related but i usually don't like the trainer.. today was an 1:15.. i didn't even realize i was on that long until after i was done. here's the view from my bike.
I'm equally curious about what's going on in that room? Is that a velour sofa next to your water heater? Not much of a man cave if you ask me! I really like that you're so into the EN model. Dineen must have had quite an effect on you! I agree with the others, how long until you get the Powertap?
It's a great idea, I'm just picturing suzy out on your run holding this in front of you! fixed. |
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