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bcraht - 2012-07-25 2:26 AM I'm always amazed at the beauty of my province.  I think I take a picture of this peak every time I go by. 
Kirsten, that is a beautiful pic indeed. If I remember, you are in the Vancouver area, right? So this is probably more for you then anyone else, although everyone feel free to answer this one if you can. As you all know, my wife and I are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in a couple of weeks. We end in Vancouver, and are staying the night to do a little sightseeing. So, the question is, what should we see/do? And more important to me, where should we eat? I believe we'll be in town for about 24 hours. Thanks!

Simple - you should see Kirsten!



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Heh Heh, NPR says, "So the best clothing for people to wear when exercising is none at all."

 http://www.npr.org/2012/07/25/157302810/summer-science-clothes-keep-you-cool-more-or-less

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Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-24 9:29 PM Biked my first time trial today. I was hoping for an avg. pace of 17 mph and to get in in 45 min or less. Look at me go! My coach said, look how far you've gone in such a short time! Laughing And that's with my little road bike too! Oh, and half inflated tires, my coach informs me after the race. OOps hahahah.
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Weeeeeeeee!   Brieeeeeeeeeeee!

Nice Work,  Keep it up, you'll be in the twenties before you know it!

Twenties. is that possible. I slogged my @ss off and didn't quite hit 14 mph today.

My course is very undulating. ie. NO flat sections, your either climbing or descending for the whole 14.7 miles. (1.04hrs) so the question is this.... can i expect to go slower overall on this type of course than a flat one, or do the faster downhill sections make up for the slow uphill bit and therefore equal everything out?

Also, what is the granny ring on your gears?

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Thanks for fixing my link, Kirk! 

I had posted it, then ran off on my long bike ride (30 miles, 1 hour 58 minutes)---and then I came back and found out there's going to be a Spartan race here in Sacramento!!! YES!!!! AND, its in November, so I can do schedule it! The one minor weird bit....its a Spartan Beast race, which means, it is a 13 mile courseSurprised--with 20+ obstacles! Wow--I wasn't planning on a half-mary til 2013; oh well, nothing like a new race to up the training factor! 

I CAN'T WAIT!!!

I'm kinda looking forward to this, just in case you can't tell....Woo-hoo!!! It will mean 3 obstacle races this year! Too much fun! (I hope.Laughing)

So are you excited then?  That sounds awesome.  Re the frogs.  I wanted to try and clicker train rats in school for a project, but I was going to have to deprive them of food first.  I didn't feel good about that, so I took vaginal swabs from cows instead...

If you are not seeing a therapist, i can recommend one.Smile

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-24 9:29 PM Biked my first time trial today. I was hoping for an avg. pace of 17 mph and to get in in 45 min or less. Look at me go! My coach said, look how far you've gone in such a short time! Laughing And that's with my little road bike too! Oh, and half inflated tires, my coach informs me after the race. OOps hahahah.
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Weeeeeeeee!   Brieeeeeeeeeeee!

Nice Work,  Keep it up, you'll be in the twenties before you know it!

Twenties. is that possible. I slogged my @ss off and didn't quite hit 14 mph today.

My course is very undulating. ie. NO flat sections, your either climbing or descending for the whole 14.7 miles. (1.04hrs) so the question is this.... can i expect to go slower overall on this type of course than a flat one, or do the faster downhill sections make up for the slow uphill bit and therefore equal everything out?

Also, what is the granny ring on your gears?

Granny gear - the small ring.  But I feel no shame dropping down to that ring on big hills - low gear, high cadence as my coach will say!

I think the downhill definitely lets you make up time.  If the hills really bog you down or you are not comfortable screaming down the hills, then maybe not.  I will say, the time trial course is a lot of slight down hill/flat with only a few little hills, as a good time trial should be



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Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 9:10 PM Question - how does someone get a "Veteran", "Expert" etc. status on BT? 

Strictly based on post number. I forget what's what but you do get to choose your own title at 6000 if your posts aren't all in CoJ and you've not caused the mods too many headaches.

So someone can post a ton of crap nonstop and get the title "Expert"...Expert in the art of B.S. I guess!

Also, I have a "veteran" designation, which I thought was generous! Tongue out

I really can't speak to that. After all, every single one of my 43K whatever-whatever posts contains technical, highly detailed yet accessible and practical, strictly triathlon-related training information.

mainly on the topic of lube.

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 9:31 PM
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reecealan - 2012-07-25 4:52 AM
ArielLIlB - 2012-07-24 9:29 PM Biked my first time trial today. I was hoping for an avg. pace of 17 mph and to get in in 45 min or less. Look at me go! My coach said, look how far you've gone in such a short time! Laughing And that's with my little road bike too! Oh, and half inflated tires, my coach informs me after the race. OOps hahahah.
42m 39s13.30 miles18.71 Mi/hr

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Weeeeeeeee!   Brieeeeeeeeeeee!

Nice Work,  Keep it up, you'll be in the twenties before you know it!

Twenties. is that possible. I slogged my @ss off and didn't quite hit 14 mph today.

My course is very undulating. ie. NO flat sections, your either climbing or descending for the whole 14.7 miles. (1.04hrs) so the question is this.... can i expect to go slower overall on this type of course than a flat one, or do the faster downhill sections make up for the slow uphill bit and therefore equal everything out?

Also, what is the granny ring on your gears?

Granny gear - the small ring.  But I feel no shame dropping down to that ring on big hills - low gear, high cadence as my coach will say!

I think the downhill definitely lets you make up time.  If the hills really bog you down or you are not comfortable screaming down the hills, then maybe not.  I will say, the time trial course is a lot of slight down hill/flat with only a few little hills, as a good time trial should be

Small ring on the cogs by the pedal or the small one on the rear wheel set. Unfortunately i have to use both sometimesEmbarassed. But not today when i thought i was doing so well staying on the big ring.

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ukweeble - 2012-07-25 4:10 PM
reecealan - 2012-07-25 4:52 AM
ArielLIlB - 2012-07-24 9:29 PM Biked my first time trial today. I was hoping for an avg. pace of 17 mph and to get in in 45 min or less. Look at me go! My coach said, look how far you've gone in such a short time! Laughing And that's with my little road bike too! Oh, and half inflated tires, my coach informs me after the race. OOps hahahah.
42m 39s13.30 miles18.71 Mi/hr

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Weeeeeeeee!   Brieeeeeeeeeeee!

Nice Work,  Keep it up, you'll be in the twenties before you know it!

Twenties. is that possible. I slogged my @ss off and didn't quite hit 14 mph today.

My course is very undulating. ie. NO flat sections, your either climbing or descending for the whole 14.7 miles. (1.04hrs) so the question is this.... can i expect to go slower overall on this type of course than a flat one, or do the faster downhill sections make up for the slow uphill bit and therefore equal everything out?

Also, what is the granny ring on your gears?

Granny gear - the small ring.  But I feel no shame dropping down to that ring on big hills - low gear, high cadence as my coach will say!

I think the downhill definitely lets you make up time.  If the hills really bog you down or you are not comfortable screaming down the hills, then maybe not.  I will say, the time trial course is a lot of slight down hill/flat with only a few little hills, as a good time trial should be

Small ring on the cogs by the pedal or the small one on the rear wheel set. Unfortunately i have to use both sometimesEmbarassed. But not today when i thought i was doing so well staying on the big ring.

Front set - but I use it on hills too, to save my legs (low gear, high cadence!).  Ain't no shame in using all your gears to get where you're going. That's what they're there for!

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 9:34 PM
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Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

It's not supposed to be easy, living with history sometimes makes you realise how soft we have become. Back when it was first done, wetsuits had not been invented. We should not make it easier just to make people happy. If you think you can hack it, put your name down, if not, there are plenty of other challenges not involving crazy amounts of swimming in cold water.



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jobaxas - 2012-07-25 9:06 PM

Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

11 hrs gets my respect, even if he didn't hit the french side.

Get well soon Jo. Gonna need your help soon to decipher Yanti's swim instructions. Already got the 'cross dresser, cool down' thing a little mixed.

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Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

It's not supposed to be easy, living with history sometimes makes you realise how soft we have become. Back when it was first done, wetsuits had not been invented. We should not make it easier just to make people happy. If you think you can hack it, put your name down, if not, there are plenty of other challenges not involving crazy amounts of swimming in cold water.

Yowza, that's a passionate response! Channel swimming must have more meaning to you Brits Wink I just figured if Ironmen can wear wetsuits, why not a Channel swimmer? I mean, that's still crazy hella hard and insane even WITH a wetsuit.  I, for one, can't even imagine swimming for an hour straight...let along eating from a pole in a freezing ocean-like expanse!

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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 4:50 PM
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jobaxas - 2012-07-25 4:06 PM

Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

It's not supposed to be easy, living with history sometimes makes you realise how soft we have become. Back when it was first done, wetsuits had not been invented. We should not make it easier just to make people happy. If you think you can hack it, put your name down, if not, there are plenty of other challenges not involving crazy amounts of swimming in cold water.

Yowza, that's a passionate response! Channel swimming must have more meaning to you Brits Wink I just figured if Ironmen can wear wetsuits, why not a Channel swimmer? I mean, that's still crazy hella hard and insane even WITH a wetsuit.  I, for one, can't even imagine swimming for an hour straight...let along eating from a pole in a freezing ocean-like expanse!

First man to cross without artificial aids was Sir Matthew Webb in 1875.  It was 36 years before the next person succeeded!  Over 6000 attempts have followed but only 400 successful.  Artificial aids not allowed to get your name in the official Channel swimming record books.  More than welcome to cross in a wetsuit but it probably counts in a different way!  Incidentally the Irish guy who died at the weekend was in a wetsuit.

Coach Johnny - my hero - did a double crossing once and two years ago attempted a triple - but due to rough seas had to quit after 20 hours, arms being two sore to continue!

It takes a certain kind of person to tackle this kind of feat - I ain't that person, but I salute those that do!

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cdban66 - 2012-07-25 7:34 PM Yanti, I wanted to thank you for your swimming help (again). Now I just have to go put it all into action, probably be hitting the pool tomorrow. [Rant] BTW, I don't know how you all spend any time in TT right now. There just seem to be some threads in there that make me wonder what people are thinking. Not all of them, obviously, but there are more then a few that leave me scratching my head. I'm far from an expert, so the advice you get from me is what worth what you paid me for it. But there are some folks here that have really valuable info to share. Why go in there and ask a question about something and then argue with the answers you get? It makes no sense. I am more convinced then ever that this runs in cycles. OK, I'm done, thanks. [/Rant]

Oh, I've been ranting to Salty about it plenty.

It does run in cycles, but with BT getting so big, it's getting less that folks know who each other are, and I think the respect level has gone down. Both the respect accorded to those who know what they're talking about, and as we get impatient, ours toward others. That's our own fault and we have to own it.

Not that simple, but ... most of the truly top-info, top-level posters just don't post anymore, and I understand why, and the site owners and mods, including myself, are trying very hard to think of practical changes that will both retain 'experts' as well as forums that are newcomer-friendly.

I understand one of the experts (BryanCD?)that used to post here often got banned from the site. I'm not sure why, but he was one of the posters whose advise I paid attention to.

It's a long and complicated tale, but let's just say this site is stringently moderated. The rules are clear and you get some leeway if you're generally a nice person and helpful, but not much.

Bryan does keep his logs open, and he is a very approachable person if you want to ask him anything.

Understood. He was very helpful after the 70.3 from Hades. I try to peek at his logs about once a week and see if I can glean anything. And Scout is the man! I ran into him on Running ahead (at least I think it was the same guy, they had very similar writing styles). Always very helpful and willing. Overall, I think the mods here do a good job of maintaining civility while allowing a healthy discourse. I do think there should be a rating system based on something more tangible then post number. Something along the lines of how reviews can be marked as helpful on Amazon or wherever. If someone gets a higher review rating, I know I can trust their advice. IDK, just an idea.

Yup, same guy.

The post review (simple "like" as on Facebook, possibly) feature is being very strongly considered for the new BT site (which marmadaddy and Ron have been busting their butts on full-time for quite some time). I would be surprised if it is NOT included.

Where has he been lately, by the way? I feel like I haven't seen his input in quite some time. That guy is pretty much the only person I take running advice from. Such a great guy.



Much like I check out Bryan's logs, I also review Scout's running philosophy:

http://thoughtsofrandomme.blogspot.com/2011/09/my-philosophy-of-run...

Good stuff if you want to run better, faster, longer, or stronger.
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bcraht - 2012-07-25 2:26 AM I'm always amazed at the beauty of my province.  I think I take a picture of this peak every time I go by. 
Kirsten, that is a beautiful pic indeed. If I remember, you are in the Vancouver area, right? So this is probably more for you then anyone else, although everyone feel free to answer this one if you can. As you all know, my wife and I are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in a couple of weeks. We end in Vancouver, and are staying the night to do a little sightseeing. So, the question is, what should we see/do? And more important to me, where should we eat? I believe we'll be in town for about 24 hours. Thanks!

Gosh, it's hard when you are from an area to tell people what to see....Depends on what you are interested in I guess.  Stanley park is right by the cruise ship terminal, if it is a nice day.  The Capilano suspension bridge is cool, as is Grouse Mountain.  The Olympic flame is right on the water as well, probably won't be lit, but still cool to see.  Head into Gastown to see the steam clock for sure.  Where to eat--can't really go wrong downtown.  Steamworks pub is kinda fun if you like pub food and atmosphere.  If you want fancier, cloud 9 is the revolving restaurant at the 'top of Vancouver' 

Hope this helps!



OK, you are my go to at the moment, I hope you don't mind. We are staying at the Empire Landmark on Robson. I believe we are between the cruise ship terminal and Stanley Park. And (quite) a few blocks from China Town. Walking distance to a lot of stuff from what I see on Google Maps. Where do I find the Olympic Torch? That would be awesome to see.

BTW, how did we travel BG (before Google)?


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If you are not seeing a therapist, i can recommend one.Smile

Nah, its much more fun to be on the crazy side of things! But here--Just for the resident frog: Guess who this frog is? Laughing

http://gooddaysacramento.cbslocal.com/video/7542042-the-sacramento-zoo-part-2/

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Yep, Kate, you were kinda glum after your last race ... so happy to see YOU so happy and passionate and driving for another goal!

Yeah, my moods tend to be really up or really down--not too much middle ground for me; good thing that I tend to be 'mostly up'! I do enjoy having a race to REALLY look forward to (as well as being slightly nervous about!) In the meantime, I have a tiny bit under a month until the "Official" first olympic distance race for me (this one is planned), so I am actually allowed to be competitive this time! Then a sprint in September, a 10k mud run/obstacle in late October, and the pinnacle: the Spartan Beast in November.....so in other words, not much going on.Cool

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So are you excited then?  That sounds awesome.  Re the frogs.  I wanted to try and clicker train rats in school for a project, but I was going to have to deprive them of food first.  I didn't feel good about that, so I took vaginal swabs from cows instead...

Um....eiw? That doesn't sound terribly fun to me....but hey, I probl'y wouldn't want to do the food deprivation thing either. That does seem like a negative reinforcement at first "here, you can't have any food, but we'll give you some food JUST so you learn what this clicker thing is!"; I can't really say much, I am still SO not an expert on training yet!

I had to laugh, cause the frogs didn't do ANYTHING in regards to the clicker during taping--mainly due to the fact that I haven't really used the clicker with them in a few months--they know ME to be the one with the food, not the clicker...they are more apt to go after my fingers! I guess I truly use more unorthodox training methods than most. 

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cdban66 - 2012-07-25 6:42 PM
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bcraht - 2012-07-25 2:26 AM I'm always amazed at the beauty of my province.  I think I take a picture of this peak every time I go by. 
Kirsten, that is a beautiful pic indeed. If I remember, you are in the Vancouver area, right? So this is probably more for you then anyone else, although everyone feel free to answer this one if you can. As you all know, my wife and I are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in a couple of weeks. We end in Vancouver, and are staying the night to do a little sightseeing. So, the question is, what should we see/do? And more important to me, where should we eat? I believe we'll be in town for about 24 hours. Thanks!

Gosh, it's hard when you are from an area to tell people what to see....Depends on what you are interested in I guess.  Stanley park is right by the cruise ship terminal, if it is a nice day.  The Capilano suspension bridge is cool, as is Grouse Mountain.  The Olympic flame is right on the water as well, probably won't be lit, but still cool to see.  Head into Gastown to see the steam clock for sure.  Where to eat--can't really go wrong downtown.  Steamworks pub is kinda fun if you like pub food and atmosphere.  If you want fancier, cloud 9 is the revolving restaurant at the 'top of Vancouver' 

Hope this helps!

OK, you are my go to at the moment, I hope you don't mind. We are staying at the Empire Landmark on Robson. I believe we are between the cruise ship terminal and Stanley Park. And (quite) a few blocks from China Town. Walking distance to a lot of stuff from what I see on Google Maps. Where do I find the Olympic Torch? That would be awesome to see. BTW, how did we travel BG (before Google)?

Dude, how did we do ANYTHING BG??? Did you see this? https://www.google.com/search?q=9%25+of+69.99&rlz=1C1CHMZ_enUS487US487&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 

They simply add a calculator when you search an equation. 

2012-07-25 8:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD
Asalzwed - 2012-07-25 8:43 PM

cdban66 - 2012-07-25 6:42 PM
bcraht - 2012-07-25 1:07 PM

cdban66 - 2012-07-25 4:08 AM
bcraht - 2012-07-25 2:26 AM I'm always amazed at the beauty of my province.  I think I take a picture of this peak every time I go by. 
Kirsten, that is a beautiful pic indeed. If I remember, you are in the Vancouver area, right? So this is probably more for you then anyone else, although everyone feel free to answer this one if you can. As you all know, my wife and I are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in a couple of weeks. We end in Vancouver, and are staying the night to do a little sightseeing. So, the question is, what should we see/do? And more important to me, where should we eat? I believe we'll be in town for about 24 hours. Thanks!

Gosh, it's hard when you are from an area to tell people what to see....Depends on what you are interested in I guess.  Stanley park is right by the cruise ship terminal, if it is a nice day.  The Capilano suspension bridge is cool, as is Grouse Mountain.  The Olympic flame is right on the water as well, probably won't be lit, but still cool to see.  Head into Gastown to see the steam clock for sure.  Where to eat--can't really go wrong downtown.  Steamworks pub is kinda fun if you like pub food and atmosphere.  If you want fancier, cloud 9 is the revolving restaurant at the 'top of Vancouver' 

Hope this helps!

OK, you are my go to at the moment, I hope you don't mind. We are staying at the Empire Landmark on Robson. I believe we are between the cruise ship terminal and Stanley Park. And (quite) a few blocks from China Town. Walking distance to a lot of stuff from what I see on Google Maps. Where do I find the Olympic Torch? That would be awesome to see. BTW, how did we travel BG (before Google)?

Dude, how did we do ANYTHING BG??? Did you see this? https://www.google.com/search?q=9%25+of+69.99&rlz=1C1CHMZ_enUS487US487&sugexp=chrome,mod=11&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 

They simply add a calculator when you search an equation. 



Two parts of that were cool. The fact that the calculator appears is "Google Cool". Your numeric choice says something as well


2012-07-25 8:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD
kgore - 2012-07-25 6:54 PM
TriAya - 2012-07-24 7:44 PM 

Yep, Kate, you were kinda glum after your last race ... so happy to see YOU so happy and passionate and driving for another goal!

Yeah, my moods tend to be really up or really down--not too much middle ground for me; good thing that I tend to be 'mostly up'! I do enjoy having a race to REALLY look forward to (as well as being slightly nervous about!) In the meantime, I have a tiny bit under a month until the "Official" first olympic distance race for me (this one is planned), so I am actually allowed to be competitive this time! Then a sprint in September, a 10k mud run/obstacle in late October, and the pinnacle: the Spartan Beast in November.....so in other words, not much going on.Cool

I am the same - I'm up or down, generally up!  But I'm bad when I'm down...

I was thinking yesterday (down day) is this it, this is life - I go to work, I take care of my family etc and I thought - well clearly I need something to give me fulfilment and I thought, hang on - that's Triathlon and Ironman etc.  Because we are in the off season here I forget that I have this goal, this drive to do this sport.  It made me smile to think that.  I then smiled more when I thought of my fellow manatees - feel like I've made a bunch of friends here!  I love it.

2012-07-25 10:01 PM
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ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 4:50 PM
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jobaxas - 2012-07-25 4:06 PM

Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

It's not supposed to be easy, living with history sometimes makes you realise how soft we have become. Back when it was first done, wetsuits had not been invented. We should not make it easier just to make people happy. If you think you can hack it, put your name down, if not, there are plenty of other challenges not involving crazy amounts of swimming in cold water.

Yowza, that's a passionate response! Channel swimming must have more meaning to you Brits Wink I just figured if Ironmen can wear wetsuits, why not a Channel swimmer? I mean, that's still crazy hella hard and insane even WITH a wetsuit.  I, for one, can't even imagine swimming for an hour straight...let along eating from a pole in a freezing ocean-like expanse!

heh heh I think he might be on the same mess as Yanti. Maybe us 'mericans don't get so worked up because we don't have a proper channel of our own.
2012-07-25 10:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD
Asalzwed - 2012-07-25 10:01 PM
ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 4:50 PM
ukweeble - 2012-07-25 5:27 PM
ArielLIlB - 2012-07-25 9:34 PM
jobaxas - 2012-07-25 4:06 PM

Channel Swim Update - Grant Siedle was pulled from the water after 11 hours.  The cold and the tides outdid him.

He is well, healthy just cold.  And he'll be back for another attempt next year!

Today Paul Hoffmann a friend is attempting his crossing.  My money is on Paul achieving the unachievable!

incidentally first crossing coach Johnny attempted at the age of 18 ended in CPR - he got hypothermia and lost consciousness, his coach (olympic champion Dawn Fraser).  It is not a challenge for the faint hearted and if you have not gained enough weight and fat you will succumb to the cold.

so today I will not be doing much work - I will tracking the boat Gallivant across the Channel!

Thanks for the well wishes everyone - cold is still there, I feel less feverish though!  If my throat doesn't improve I will go to the doctor tomorrow.

Thank goodness he is ok! I can't believe they aren't allowed to wear wet suits! Who makes up that rule?  HOw is it possible for someone to be in cold water for almost half a day?  I can't wrap my head around this one.  More so than the thought of swimming and biking for miles and miles BEFORE starting a marathon (considering I've tried to barely stand the day before a marathon).

It's not supposed to be easy, living with history sometimes makes you realise how soft we have become. Back when it was first done, wetsuits had not been invented. We should not make it easier just to make people happy. If you think you can hack it, put your name down, if not, there are plenty of other challenges not involving crazy amounts of swimming in cold water.

Yowza, that's a passionate response! Channel swimming must have more meaning to you Brits Wink I just figured if Ironmen can wear wetsuits, why not a Channel swimmer? I mean, that's still crazy hella hard and insane even WITH a wetsuit.  I, for one, can't even imagine swimming for an hour straight...let along eating from a pole in a freezing ocean-like expanse!

heh heh I think he might be on the same mess as Yanti. Maybe us 'mericans don't get so worked up because we don't have a proper channel of our own.
Well if you're into the endurance swimming game (and I am so not) then you guys have the Manahattan swim - the marathon of NY (another Coach Johnny haunt!) and you have the Alcatraz swim etc.  there are heaps of these endurance swims - and I think a lot are not wetsuit legal....
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Subject: RE: Yanti & Salty Mad Manatees PART 3: FULL POD
cdban66 - 2012-07-25 4:42 PM
bcraht - 2012-07-25 1:07 PM

cdban66 - 2012-07-25 4:08 AM
bcraht - 2012-07-25 2:26 AM I'm always amazed at the beauty of my province.  I think I take a picture of this peak every time I go by. 
Kirsten, that is a beautiful pic indeed. If I remember, you are in the Vancouver area, right? So this is probably more for you then anyone else, although everyone feel free to answer this one if you can. As you all know, my wife and I are headed out on an Alaskan cruise in a couple of weeks. We end in Vancouver, and are staying the night to do a little sightseeing. So, the question is, what should we see/do? And more important to me, where should we eat? I believe we'll be in town for about 24 hours. Thanks!

Gosh, it's hard when you are from an area to tell people what to see....Depends on what you are interested in I guess.  Stanley park is right by the cruise ship terminal, if it is a nice day.  The Capilano suspension bridge is cool, as is Grouse Mountain.  The Olympic flame is right on the water as well, probably won't be lit, but still cool to see.  Head into Gastown to see the steam clock for sure.  Where to eat--can't really go wrong downtown.  Steamworks pub is kinda fun if you like pub food and atmosphere.  If you want fancier, cloud 9 is the revolving restaurant at the 'top of Vancouver' 

Hope this helps!

OK, you are my go to at the moment, I hope you don't mind. We are staying at the Empire Landmark on Robson. I believe we are between the cruise ship terminal and Stanley Park. And (quite) a few blocks from China Town. Walking distance to a lot of stuff from what I see on Google Maps. Where do I find the Olympic Torch? That would be awesome to see. BTW, how did we travel BG (before Google)?

This shows where the flame is.  Yeah, China town would be a bit of a hike.  Gastown is about 2km from the Empire Landmark, so that is do-able.  Walking Robson Street can be fun, lots of shops.  Granville Island would be good too--transit will get you there within about 1/2 hour.  It has a market, and lots of artsy type shops.  I'll keep thinking.

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