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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey Junkies, I'm back in town but not caught up on the post, hopefully soon but I am swamped at work ![]() Dina, try using the eliptical 1 session and runing the next to keep you in shape and avoid injury. Dirk, CONGRATS!!!!! Ok I have a few questions for a bike. I think I have sold my Fuji road bike, it is a very starter bike and I'm looking for a bike to last the rest of my life. I do understand the bike has very little to do w/ speed etc and the only reason I'm selling it is to get a bike that I can get a little more aggressive in position for riding. I will go by all the bike shops to get the right bike for me but here are some questions. I do want to stay w/ an Aluminum frame becuase the 2 or 3 oz I save is not worth the $$$ to me. 1, Is there a huge difference in Shimano 105 and Ultegra, is it worth the $$$$? 2. Gearing, what is the 50 - 34 or whatever it is and what is best. I live in FL and bike some in Georgia with rolling hills, but nothing like Tennessee or Montana. 3. What about teeth in the gears or is that the same as #2 above. Ya'll were discussing that w/ Tony for his Ironman and to be honest, it went in 1 ear and out the other. 4. What kind of rims do I need and remember I'll never place in a race. What I'm looking for is something dependable that will not constantly be in the shop for tweaking... I want the diesel model, not the high peformance blow up model. What else should I ask at the shops? |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by KWDreamun Hey Junkies, I'm back in town but not caught up on the post, hopefully soon but I am swamped at work ![]() Dina, try using the eliptical 1 session and runing the next to keep you in shape and avoid injury. Dirk, CONGRATS!!!!! Ok I have a few questions for a bike. I think I have sold my Fuji road bike, it is a very starter bike and I'm looking for a bike to last the rest of my life. I do understand the bike has very little to do w/ speed etc and the only reason I'm selling it is to get a bike that I can get a little more aggressive in position for riding. I will go by all the bike shops to get the right bike for me but here are some questions. I do want to stay w/ an Aluminum frame becuase the 2 or 3 oz I save is not worth the $$$ to me. 1, Is there a huge difference in Shimano 105 and Ultegra, is it worth the $$$$? 2. Gearing, what is the 50 - 34 or whatever it is and what is best. I live in FL and bike some in Georgia with rolling hills, but nothing like Tennessee or Montana. 3. What about teeth in the gears or is that the same as #2 above. Ya'll were discussing that w/ Tony for his Ironman and to be honest, it went in 1 ear and out the other. 4. What kind of rims do I need and remember I'll never place in a race. What I'm looking for is something dependable that will not constantly be in the shop for tweaking... I want the diesel model, not the high peformance blow up model. What else should I ask at the shops? Karl I'm no expert here but I can chime in on the gearing. So the gear up front, your crank where the pedal are attached is typically a 50/39 or if it is a compact crank it is usually a 50/34. Again the 50 refers to how many teeth that are gear. The 50/34 would be better for it you are riding on hilly terrian. So same for the rear gears or rear cassette. I used a 11-28 for IMWI, and 11-28, 11-27 or 12-27 is great for the hills especially if you have a compact crank. You can ride in the 34/27 or 34/28 which makes is very easy to spin up the hills with the least amount of effort. Being you are not dealing with much hilly terrian you may wan to look at something like a 12-25 cassette for the rear. You can go with a 12-27 as well but you may not use those extra gears. I'm parital to the compact crank as well I love having that. I would say that is your call on whether you try and get a 50/39 or a 50/34. I'd go with compact personally. Rims or wheels can give you a a smoother ride and save some time but you get what you pay for and good racing wheels can be expensive. I would say it depends on what you want to do with the bike. I would get racing wheels for my tri bike and for my road bike I'd either use the stock wheels or get some inexpensive carbon wheels if they could be found. Again it all depends on what you want to get out of this bike. I think we've recently had the wheels discussion when Tracy brought this up not too long ago. Just my two cents I'll leave this stuff to the bike experts in the group as they can give you more insight and information. |
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![]() Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by trigal38 I had an email from Sufferfest. They have put together 2 new cycling workout downloads. I purchased one of these downloads last year and it is a great workout and fun to watch. These two are video of this years 2013 Giro d'Italia. One of them is 2hrs working on endurance and climbing, the next is shorter but focused on sprinting. The email offer was a bundle price with $5 off so I went for it. What have I done?! I've been looking at running plans online but I just can't find anything I am very excited about because everything is race oriented and I don't have to be ready for a race at any certain time. I just want to build mileage and be a better runner so I was thinking of trying to build my mileage to 20 miles a week and see if I can hold it there for a while using a modified BarryP plan. Modified that I would run 4 or 5 days a week instead of 6. What do you think?I know 20 miles does not sound like a lot to most of you but for me that would be an increase. Last week I ran 14.5 miles or something like that but 2.5 miles were on the ARC trainer at the gym which I did to try to keep my legs working but eliminate a little of the pounding impact since my hip is bothering me. Is it a good idea to use the machines or cheating? I will say I am having a really hard time getting my running legs back after the break in August for my heal pain. My runs feel slow, my legs are heavy, hips are stiff. My HR is easy - just my legs won't go
I agree with Warren. If the plan fits your schedule and you enjoy running said schedule, it's the right plan for you. I also wouldn't disagree with using an elliptical as a method to support running. We've said that being healthy is the first priority for all of us for a few years now, if an elliptical is the means to that end, it's the way to go. I wouldn't necessarily count that as running miles but it could very well be the steps in the right direction to get you to where you want to be. Also, 20 MPW isn't a small amount of miles! If you are able to consistently run 20 miles a week that will bring you to over 1000 miles in a years time. How many "runners" do you know that actually do that? And then ride and swim on top of it. You are no slouch at 20 MPW! To reach 20 MPW you can still apply a sort of Warrens favored 3:2:1 plan, and I would recommend that you do. If you run 4 days a week start slowly and build to your goal. You could do something like 2,2,4,6 to start and slowly increase from there. With the history you've had it may warrant an even slower start to avoid injuries but take your time. Nothing worth having comes easy, nor should it! It's in great pains that we learn the significance of our achievements. One other thing. Shoes! I know you love your shoes. However, I think you should try to settle in on one or two pair and see where they lead. If I remember correctly you have a lot of shoes that are used. If you have had a successful pair of shoes that allowed you to run injury free in the past, I suggest you go back to them or the equivalent newer model. With all of the changes you may be doing with shoes it may be compounding any issues you have. If I am incorrect in my recollection that you have more than 2-3 pair of shoes you run in, and have for a while, disregard my comments. I think I have finally settled on shoes but you are correct that I try lots of different shoes. My trail shoes I have been set with for over a year. I tried the Hoka trail shoe but they don't work with my cyst so I have given up on them. And I'm on track with a pair of Brooks Pure Flow for treadmill and road, so far at least. I have only had them about a month but so far so good. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by DirkP I'm dying here!!!!! It seems the trauma to my knee from the bike crash is more than I thought originally. I had been doing well until this morning. I had ridden last night and rode only moderately hard to allow some additional recover in my legs after feeling some ridiculous pain last weekend. I had only ridden 25 miles yesterday but awoke to swelling in my knee this morning. There wasn't a lot of swelling but it was somewhat painful for the walk down the stairs and the first 30-60 minutes today. After that things loosened up and seem to be close to normal. My treatment is to go back onto Nsaids and not run or ride tonight, then attempt to resume training tomorrow night. I am just over 2 weeks away from my last scheduled race of the year (a HM) and I have been hoping to have a solid PR. I have not done a stand alone HM for almost 2.5 years and I would really love to see if I've gained much at this distance. On May 11, 2011 I went 1:33:20 over a moderately hilly course which was a 4:40 improvement over my last HM. I am/was looking for under 1:30 and I may go out at a 1:28 pace (6:43). this would likely be a near blow up pace if I chose to go out that fast. But you never know what you can do until you push harder than you thought you could. Dirk, you know what that symptom suggests? Cartilage damage. Probably not a big deal (hopefully). Often times there is some cartilage roughness or small tear that's rather benign, but the rough spot creates friction and swelling. With time the body can absorb pieces left over and/or they get circulated to the edges of the joint. Or rough spots get smoothed again by friction. It doesn't automatically mean you must stop running. If the pain and swelling can be managed you should be OK to keep going. But in the next few weeks if the trend isn't toward a general improvement you should consult with an Orthopedic. Actually, you should just consult with your wife and do what she says! Good luck with this! I'm optimistic about you being able to do your HM. But you need to be prepared to pull the plug if the knee keeps swelling consistently after each run. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Hey, just go with it! Single-sport focuses can be great for triathletes. Keep as much swimming and cycling in your weekly routine as you are willing and able but don't stress about them. It's just for a time. the improved running will benefit you as a triathlete. ![]() |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Here is a public service announcement from Bobby McGee....and it's exactly what the Junkies have been teaching for a few years now... http://bobbymcgee.com/bobby-mcgee-running-tips-how-to-become-a-fast... |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jeff, Excellent article, thanks for posting. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY Here is a public service announcement from Bobby McGee....and it's exactly what the Junkies have been teaching for a few years now... http://bobbymcgee.com/bobby-mcgee-running-tips-how-to-become-a-fast... This is a great video. I am going to forward it to a couple of people I've been talking to about this principle that you began a few years ago and we've been successfully reinforcing since. They seem to look at me funny every time I tell them this concept and then they leave and go run hard for all or most of their runs and come in and tell me how their feet or legs or..... hurt after running......... ..........I keep hitting myself with this hammer and it keeps hurting! What should I do?" I say; "keep hitting yourself with a hammer!" |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by JeffY Originally posted by DirkP Dirk, you know what that symptom suggests? Cartilage damage. Probably not a big deal (hopefully). Often times there is some cartilage roughness or small tear that's rather benign, but the rough spot creates friction and swelling. With time the body can absorb pieces left over and/or they get circulated to the edges of the joint. Or rough spots get smoothed again by friction. It doesn't automatically mean you must stop running. If the pain and swelling can be managed you should be OK to keep going. But in the next few weeks if the trend isn't toward a general improvement you should consult with an Orthopedic. Actually, you should just consult with your wife and do what she says! Good luck with this! I'm optimistic about you being able to do your HM. But you need to be prepared to pull the plug if the knee keeps swelling consistently after each run. I'm dying here!!!!! It seems the trauma to my knee from the bike crash is more than I thought originally. I had been doing well until this morning. I had ridden last night and rode only moderately hard to allow some additional recover in my legs after feeling some ridiculous pain last weekend. I had only ridden 25 miles yesterday but awoke to swelling in my knee this morning. There wasn't a lot of swelling but it was somewhat painful for the walk down the stairs and the first 30-60 minutes today. After that things loosened up and seem to be close to normal. My treatment is to go back onto Nsaids and not run or ride tonight, then attempt to resume training tomorrow night. I am just over 2 weeks away from my last scheduled race of the year (a HM) and I have been hoping to have a solid PR. I have not done a stand alone HM for almost 2.5 years and I would really love to see if I've gained much at this distance. On May 11, 2011 I went 1:33:20 over a moderately hilly course which was a 4:40 improvement over my last HM. I am/was looking for under 1:30 and I may go out at a 1:28 pace (6:43). this would likely be a near blow up pace if I chose to go out that fast. But you never know what you can do until you push harder than you thought you could. I have noticed that I experience problems following riding and not necessarily running. I am now pulling back on the effort and mileage on the bike but to be honest that too is killing because I know time is running short because the weather will be getting cooler in the coming weeks and I would like to stay outside as long as possible, but that's all side issues. Given that I have had an ACL reconstruction in that knee you may be correct about the cartilage or meniscus tear. Normally with ACL tears (and severs as mine was) there comes meniscus tears and am no exception. I, on rare occasions, have some difficulty with some tweaks from the missing meniscus in 2 locations, lateral and medial condyles of my tibia. The swelling seems to fit that feeling but it's in a different location than the tears I have had. If I could stick a needle in my knee and point to the spot where I experience the previous injury I could put it exactly where the problem occurs. All that said, I do believe this injury to be rather benign. I simply need to take it easy for a little longer before diving back into everything. That injury recovery will come in force after Sept. 28 when my HM is complete. I have been running fine and it doesn't concern me for a deeper injury, especially with a taper beginning next week. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dirk, I hope you have a speedy recovery, do to yourself what you would tell us to do...... Good Luck! Edited by KWDreamun 2013-09-17 1:10 PM |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by trigal38 JoAnne I love your BonJovi excitement. So fun. I never go to concerts but you are making want to find one! They are coming to Chicago the next day.........just sayin ![]() |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Karl welcome back...can't help you on the bike I am still learning myself, how's the swimming going?? Dirk hope the knee feels better soon. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Well, we just got done with Kyire's senior pictures photo session and I have to say it was kind of difficult. I was fine as we were taking the pics and I was posting some of them to facebook. But now, once I've made it home and I'm able to see the pics I posted, it's kind of hard to look at them. I've stared at the screen, shaking my head and wondering how so many years have gone by. My baby is not far from being out of the house. This is a very bittersweet time in my life. |
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![]() Welcome home, KARL! Can't help you out with your questions on a new bike but I can sure be excited about it for you! I get the feeling you like Bon Jovi just a wee bit, JOANNE. Nice to see you pop in here JEFF, you've been quite for a while and I've missed your sage advice. DINA - the guys gave you sound advice on your run milage questions. If it were me, I'd try to find my happy place in running again - whether that be logging 2 miles in a week or 30. I'm just hoping your body will heal enough that you can enjoy it again. WILL - how are you handling life with B2B coming up next month? Are you able to sleep at all or do you keep going over all the little details in your head? TONY was absolutely right when he said that every single day I would think about something to do with IMWI. I'm so in trouble ... I was having a conversation with our mailman today and he asked me how old I was and I told him my racing age NEXT YEAR!! It wasn't until he drove away that it hit me that wasn't right but that I'd been thinking of the age they'll body mark me next September. Oh, boy, I'm already loosing my mind. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I attempted my first run since the IM 9 days ago and man was it a struggle this evening. I did just over 5 miles in about an hour. I did two loops around 2.25 miles. The first loop no problem I probably went out a little too fast but settled in and I was ok. The second loop got progressively harder as I went along. I just didn't have any energy at the end of the run and to be honest the IM run seemed easier then this run tonight. It was a bit eye opening to realize that I'm nowhere near recovered and should not be pushing myself. I think I will be keeping my runs short for a while. I was also thinking about the next IM while I was running thinking about how I can shave off time on my swim, bike, run and transitions. My friend Wynn also sent out elevation charts comparing IMLP, IMWI and IMMT and gave an overview of the 3 by comparison this afternoon. I'm sitting here tonight thinking what is wrong with us? LOL. It's too earlier to start worrying about all this stuff, have I not learned anything this past year? LOL I'm thinking I'm in for another very long year. The other thing I'm considering is getting a MTN bike. Since all the guys I will be training with ride them and will be doing that over the winter it would be a good way for me to get some training in on the bike outdoors plus they are already persuading me to get one LOL. If I can get that by the finance commitee (my wife) I'll get one. I think the "I need this for Ironman to be successful card" might work although I've played that one repeatedly all year. Now I need to get educated on them. I'm just looking for an entry level 29er that won't break the bank. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by bswcpa Welcome home, KARL! Can't help you out with your questions on a new bike but I can sure be excited about it for you! I get the feeling you like Bon Jovi just a wee bit, JOANNE. Nice to see you pop in here JEFF, you've been quite for a while and I've missed your sage advice. DINA - the guys gave you sound advice on your run milage questions. If it were me, I'd try to find my happy place in running again - whether that be logging 2 miles in a week or 30. I'm just hoping your body will heal enough that you can enjoy it again. WILL - how are you handling life with B2B coming up next month? Are you able to sleep at all or do you keep going over all the little details in your head? TONY was absolutely right when he said that every single day I would think about something to do with IMWI. I'm so in trouble ... I was having a conversation with our mailman today and he asked me how old I was and I told him my racing age NEXT YEAR!! It wasn't until he drove away that it hit me that wasn't right but that I'd been thinking of the age they'll body mark me next September. Oh, boy, I'm already loosing my mind. With all the WO's and business of life, I have no problem getting to sleep at night... ha! Exhausted most of the time. I will say that I keep having dreams... in one I got bit by a shark but still finished the race and I was on all the news shows for a couple days doing interviews. In some others, my bike keeps breaking down in various ways. About the details, I've been so busy that I havent really had much time lately to think about them much... honestly, I need to find out a bunch of stuff like if I can wear a camelbak, how the transitions work with the bags, do they take your bike, etc... |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Tony, I've thought about getting a MB as well but every person I know who has one has wrecked and been injured at some point... I'd think off-season is fine but I personally wouldnt risk it during IM training b/c I've seen so many friends get injured and miss a month+ of training... and I know myself and I wouldnt have the self control to hold back... I'd be hyped up on adrenaline and eventually pay the price... ha! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by KWDreamun Hey Junkies, I'm back in town but not caught up on the post, hopefully soon but I am swamped at work ![]() I do want to stay w/ an Aluminum frame becuase the 2 or 3 oz I save is not worth the $$$ to me. Aluminum vs Carbon isn't a huge difference in price. If I had more money I would likely be riding carbon because it can be a smoother ride but my 2 aluminum bikes seem to bode well with me. If you have questions about how fast a person can be on aluminum vs carbon I'll allow you to decide if the speeds I achieve on totally bottom end bikes are fast enough or is carbon worth the money. For me, right now carbon isn't worth the money (and budget committee approval/arguments/battles and happiness of not being the one to always ask for something bigger and better). "........contentment is great gain." I chose to be content. 1, Is there a huge difference in Shimano 105 and Ultegra, is it worth the $$$$? I would not go the extra mile for any speed here. Make the cheaper purchase (which would be the 105 group). For the most part you would be paying for something that is lighter by a few grams. 2. Gearing, what is the 50 - 34 or whatever it is and what is best. I live in FL and bike some in Georgia with rolling hills, but nothing like Tennessee or Montana. As Tony mentioned, 50/34 or 52/38 (what I ride) are the teeth on the chain rings up front. I am going to guess you are riding a double crank instead of a triple too. Stick with that unless you decide to ride some of the more hilly areas of Georgia and Tennessee, then a triple may be in order. Even so, you can get around some of the necessity for this by purchasing a different cassette. 3. What about teeth in the gears or is that the same as #2 above. Ya'll were discussing that w/ Tony for his Ironman and to be honest, it went in 1 ear and out the other. Simply put the gear rings at the front are called chain rings and the gearing at the back is called a cassette. For each of the gearing rings on the front and back will have a set number of teeth. Counting these teeth will determine your gearing. The front is easily determined, as stated in question one. The cassette on the back is sized by giving the smallest number of teeth and the largest number of teeth. So, on my TT bike, I ride a 12/25 cassette. Meaning 12 teeth on the smallest cog and 25 teeth on the largest cog. 4. What kind of rims do I need and remember I'll never place in a race. I'll let others comment here for the most part. But, find a rim that is lightweight for the most part. You can get deepset carbon wheels for some free speed but it would cost close to $1,000 for the cheapest sets. I suggest you find an alloy wheel for cheaper since you don't want to break the bank. What I'm looking for is something dependable that will not constantly be in the shop for tweaking... I want the diesel model, not the high peformance blow up model. What else should I ask at the shops? See above. I am very weak in this category, so hopefully Warren or Jeff will weigh on for some of the points. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Dirk, how's the knee today? Will, if you swim fast enough the shark will not be able to catch you...that should be motivation in itself...lol Tony, take more time off, you deserve it! Be careful on the mountain bike, I'm sure the finance director will be fine with it....lol Thanks for the responses on the bike. I finally had a break thru on the swim last night... here in the south we are slow to learn.... what helped me wasthe 1 arm drills and fist drills...then I realized after doing the fist drills that I was basically swimming with my shoulder to my elbow (tricep area) as my forearms were almost parallel with my elbows. I was using my hands about 20% of the stroke. My swim instructor said it should be like climbing a rope, hands closer to your body and not far out or down. People have said "high" elbows but I didn't know what that meant, I was thinking high out of the water. See, I really am a dumb newbie!!! |
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![]() Originally posted by DirkP Originally posted by JeffY Here is a public service announcement from Bobby McGee....and it's exactly what the Junkies have been teaching for a few years now... http://bobbymcgee.com/bobby-mcgee-running-tips-how-to-become-a-fast... This is a great video. I am going to forward it to a couple of people I've been talking to about this principle that you began a few years ago and we've been successfully reinforcing since. They seem to look at me funny every time I tell them this concept and then they leave and go run hard for all or most of their runs and come in and tell me how their feet or legs or..... hurt after running......... ..........I keep hitting myself with this hammer and it keeps hurting! What should I do?" I say; "keep hitting yourself with a hammer!" During my short run on the treadmill Monday I wondered if I am actually taking this concept too far and running too easy as my feet kept banging into the front of the treadmill ha ha ha. It would be just like me to over do it - even with running easy Can't get the video to load!!! It just keeps spinning. I'll keep trying. Edited by trigal38 2013-09-18 7:03 AM |
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![]() Originally posted by KWDreamun Dirk, how's the knee today? Will, if you swim fast enough the shark will not be able to catch you...that should be motivation in itself...lol Tony, take more time off, you deserve it! Be careful on the mountain bike, I'm sure the finance director will be fine with it....lol Thanks for the responses on the bike. I finally had a break thru on the swim last night... here in the south we are slow to learn.... what helped me wasthe 1 arm drills and fist drills...then I realized after doing the fist drills that I was basically swimming with my shoulder to my elbow (tricep area) as my forearms were almost parallel with my elbows. I was using my hands about 20% of the stroke. My swim instructor said it should be like climbing a rope, hands closer to your body and not far out or down. People have said "high" elbows but I didn't know what that meant, I was thinking high out of the water. See, I really am a dumb newbie!!! I've been told that same concept except it was climbing a ladder. Great news it is clicking! I also always think the one arm drills help me focus and think through the movements. I give you credit for sticking with it. Watching and working with my friend who wants to attempt the HIM next year I have realized how difficult it can be. She can run a marathon in just a little over 3 hours but 400 yds in the pool exhausts her. I did not go through this, swimming has always been natural for me. My first time swimming for fitness as an adult I jumped in the pool and swam 10 laps straight. A mile in the workout no problem. I'm not bragging because I am not fast but it is hard to understand how she is struggling. I compare it to my running. She gets frustrated but I told her "look, I've been working at running for 20 years. When you've put in that kind of time and still struggle, then you can quit." |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by trigal38 Originally posted by KWDreamun Dirk, how's the knee today? Will, if you swim fast enough the shark will not be able to catch you...that should be motivation in itself...lol Tony, take more time off, you deserve it! Be careful on the mountain bike, I'm sure the finance director will be fine with it....lol Thanks for the responses on the bike. I finally had a break thru on the swim last night... here in the south we are slow to learn.... what helped me wasthe 1 arm drills and fist drills...then I realized after doing the fist drills that I was basically swimming with my shoulder to my elbow (tricep area) as my forearms were almost parallel with my elbows. I was using my hands about 20% of the stroke. My swim instructor said it should be like climbing a rope, hands closer to your body and not far out or down. People have said "high" elbows but I didn't know what that meant, I was thinking high out of the water. See, I really am a dumb newbie!!! I've been told that same concept except it was climbing a ladder. Great news it is clicking! I also always think the one arm drills help me focus and think through the movements. I give you credit for sticking with it. Watching and working with my friend who wants to attempt the HIM next year I have realized how difficult it can be. She can run a marathon in just a little over 3 hours but 400 yds in the pool exhausts her. I did not go through this, swimming has always been natural for me. My first time swimming for fitness as an adult I jumped in the pool and swam 10 laps straight. A mile in the workout no problem. I'm not bragging because I am not fast but it is hard to understand how she is struggling. I compare it to my running. She gets frustrated but I told her "look, I've been working at running for 20 years. When you've put in that kind of time and still struggle, then you can quit." Karl congrats on the progress made on your swimming. Having these kind of breakthroughs will go a long way. I also admire your persistance and sticking it with it. Swimming is so fustrating at times I think that is way I don't enoy it as much as I would like to. I envy Dina and Warren and anybody who swimming comes naturally to them because for me it is such hard work. I'm hoping to step it up again this offseason and improve. I think training with my friends this year who are all focused on IMMT will help me alot. |
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Expert ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by pistuo Tony, I've thought about getting a MB as well but every person I know who has one has wrecked and been injured at some point... I'd think off-season is fine but I personally wouldnt risk it during IM training b/c I've seen so many friends get injured and miss a month+ of training... and I know myself and I wouldnt have the self control to hold back... I'd be hyped up on adrenaline and eventually pay the price... ha! Will I hear you and just reading about Jeff's exploits and experiences should validate that lol. Looks like I do have the go ahead to go get one so I will start reading up and looking. The guys started riding here last night so I would like to get in on it. My understand is the trails they are riding are not very technical and I know they will teach and help me get going. On all the other stuff related to IM if you want to talk let me know. Just let me know when so I can make sure I am available to talk with you. There are a lot of the little details that I didn't consider until the end and I think if you can get out in front of all that it will take some of the worry and stress out of your race. The checklists, nutrition and knowing what nutrition they will serve on the race course as well as what the cutoff times are all important stuff that you should know. So let shoot me PM and you can call me or I can call you and we can discuss this stuff and anything else that you might have questions about. |
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Extreme Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Jeff thanks for the post and the reminder on running easy. Karl congrats on your break thru! Tony, good to hear you realize you need more time to recover, we all need to remember to listen to our bodies. Dina, you over achiever lol ![]() Brenda that is too funny! Dirk Wow, Sr year know that time will make it better ![]() I signed up for a Master swim program 2x a week my first swim will be Friday morning i seriously haven't swam since June ![]() |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by KWDreamun Hey Junkies, I'm back in town but not caught up on the post, hopefully soon but I am swamped at work ![]() Dina, try using the eliptical 1 session and runing the next to keep you in shape and avoid injury. Dirk, CONGRATS!!!!! Ok I have a few questions for a bike. I think I have sold my Fuji road bike, it is a very starter bike and I'm looking for a bike to last the rest of my life. I do understand the bike has very little to do w/ speed etc and the only reason I'm selling it is to get a bike that I can get a little more aggressive in position for riding. I will go by all the bike shops to get the right bike for me but here are some questions. I do want to stay w/ an Aluminum frame becuase the 2 or 3 oz I save is not worth the $$$ to me. 1, Is there a huge difference in Shimano 105 and Ultegra, is it worth the $$$$? 2. Gearing, what is the 50 - 34 or whatever it is and what is best. I live in FL and bike some in Georgia with rolling hills, but nothing like Tennessee or Montana. 3. What about teeth in the gears or is that the same as #2 above. Ya'll were discussing that w/ Tony for his Ironman and to be honest, it went in 1 ear and out the other. 4. What kind of rims do I need and remember I'll never place in a race. What I'm looking for is something dependable that will not constantly be in the shop for tweaking... I want the diesel model, not the high peformance blow up model. What else should I ask at the shops? I'll try: 1. Not much difference. It's really a weight issue mainly, and the 105 will actually be more durable. I think 105 is a great bang for the buck. 90% of the improvements and a lot less $$$. 2/3. For FL I'd say the crank (front) probably doesn't matter so much. I still might prefer a compact (50/34) just in case you decide to go with a hillier race at some point. The cassette is also personal, but if you choose the 50/34 I'd go with an 11/xxx, maybe 11/25. In general, if you are spinning at less than 70 rpm up the hardest hill you encounter, or you HAVE to stand up to make the hill in a race, you probably need to revisit your gearing choices. Cassettes are actually pretty cheap (like 40-60 for 105), and changing them is trivial, so you might consider assuming flat races (FL) and then get another cassette if you decide to do some hillier races later. 4. Given your requirements, I'd bet the wheels you get with the bike will be fine. Let the shop know what your requirements are and they will give you a solid training wheel that is strong and durable. Most of the $$$ in wheels is in the quest for speed. Don't forget the tire discussion, which can be at least if not more important than wheels. I really love the Continental GP4000s for racing. I also use them for training and haven't had a problem with flats or wear. They are a great bang for the buck- I think we've had discussions on here where to get them for a good price. I highly recommend getting a fit BEFORE you buy a bike. A good shop will fit you and then figure out what bike(s) make the most sense. Some shops even discount the bike price with the fit amount if you buy from them. Being comfortable on the bike is so important, particularly if you go to longer races. And find a good shop, just be honest with the people and tell them your story and what you're after, and they should take care of you. If you're in the New England area, I can take you to the best shop in the world for fitting and getting a great bike for your particular body and riding style! I know biking can be an expensive proposition, so it's essentially a bunch of decisions of how much to spend. |
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