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2010-01-01 7:21 PM in reply to: #2587892 |
Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED sstucker - 2010-01-01 2:20 PM Now, need some opinions. I can only do my workouts (run, bike, swim) in the mornings. Once in a while I can do a run in the evening, maybe lunch. But for the most part all in the morning. So my question is should I be doing my swim first or bike/run first? I'm sure it probably depends on type of workouts. But in general does it really matter? Do you mean which order to use when doing 2 disciplines in the same morning, or which discipline to prioritize if you can't give them all equal attention? |
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2010-01-01 7:53 PM in reply to: #2588403 |
Extreme Veteran 334 Oshawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED treehugger - 2010-01-01 8:21 PM sstucker - 2010-01-01 2:20 PM Now, need some opinions. I can only do my workouts (run, bike, swim) in the mornings. Once in a while I can do a run in the evening, maybe lunch. But for the most part all in the morning. So my question is should I be doing my swim first or bike/run first? I'm sure it probably depends on type of workouts. But in general does it really matter? Do you mean which order to use when doing 2 disciplines in the same morning, or which discipline to prioritize if you can't give them all equal attention? Same morning. But a little detail may help make you understand. I'm performing all workouts in a gym except my long run which are on Sundays. The gym has a 25m lap pool and every other equipment you can think of, which is very convenient for tri training. My general idea is to schedule the shorter workouts with the swims, and that workout can be interval, hills and so on for Bike or run. I would prefer to do swim second so I can jump in shower from there as oppose to swim, dry, dress, bike/run, shower, dry again, dress, go to work. It's more for convenience then anything else. Basically where would I change that format, outside of brick workouts, so as to not affect the overall training? Where should I be carefull? |
2010-01-01 8:11 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Id also do the swim 2cnd... just for the reasons you stated above UNLESS it is a TT swim.... or something that you need your best effort. Other then that if its a bike and run Id do whatever is harder first... if you have temp run or speed work for the run and an easy Z2 bike.... Id run then bike. make sense? Id just make sure when the plan doesnt SAY brick to try to not jump into the 2cnd discipline to fast... try to at least take a short break and grab a gel or something. |
2010-01-01 8:48 PM in reply to: #2588475 |
Extreme Veteran 334 Oshawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-01 9:11 PM Id also do the swim 2cnd... just for the reasons you stated above UNLESS it is a TT swim.... or something that you need your best effort. Other then that if its a bike and run Id do whatever is harder first... if you have temp run or speed work for the run and an easy Z2 bike.... Id run then bike. make sense? Id just make sure when the plan doesnt SAY brick to try to not jump into the 2cnd discipline to fast... try to at least take a short break and grab a gel or something. excelent! Thanks. I'm starting to get a grasp of planning and training for three discipline. |
2010-01-02 11:11 AM in reply to: #2588526 |
62 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED I followed Jorge's 30 min time trial test (http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/2008/11/30-min-time-trial-test-for-hr-users.html) to try and get my LTHR for the bike. Over the 30 minute period, my average heart rate was 166. So my LTHR should be 161 with the following zones:
Does that sound right? Anybody following Jorge's 12-week cycling plan? Thinking about starting it up this week. |
2010-01-02 6:37 PM in reply to: #2589164 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED mnardulli - 2010-01-02 11:11 AM I followed Jorge's 30 min time trial test (http://jorgepbmcoaching.blogspot.com/2008/11/30-min-time-trial-test-for-hr-users.html) to try and get my LTHR for the bike. Over the 30 minute period, my average heart rate was 166. So my LTHR should be 161 with the following zones:
That looks OK I do it a little different (Im guessing he divides it cuz it is hard fir some people to hit their max on a trainer. Id say of your zones seem too easy to use your ahr from the test as your LT.... that # would be the top of Z4. |
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2010-01-03 8:01 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED FOAM ROLLERS OK somewhat asked abou thow to correctly use a foamroller. What you need to do is go to the aggravated area and roll it a point that hurts, when you get to that point you need to just leave it there and hold it for 60-90 seconds. Its a type of myofascial release. Once the muscle fibers sense that it is going to hurt more they will release. Keep going thru the area until you hit all the tight or sore parts. You do need do use a good amount of pressure. Make sense? |
2010-01-03 6:02 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it |
2010-01-03 6:10 PM in reply to: #2591179 |
Member 45 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it Ok, my january goals are as follows: 1) Get back up to 16 miles on my long run 2) Get at least 2 bike rides greater than 60 miles 3) Do at least 10,000 yards in the Pool |
2010-01-03 6:11 PM in reply to: #2591191 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED texastriman - 2010-01-03 6:10 PM tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it Ok, my january goals are as follows: 1) Get back up to 16 miles on my long run 2) Get at least 2 bike rides greater than 60 miles 3) Do at least 10,000 yards in the Pool
Ok so thats 10000 yds /week right?? And being your coach I dont think 16 mile long runs a neccesary right now!! |
2010-01-03 6:40 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED http://www.mcmillanrunning.com/mcmillanrunningcalculator.htm also wanted to share this with you.... its a good pace calcualtor |
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2010-01-03 10:04 PM in reply to: #2591179 |
Member 76 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it My goals are the following. 1. lose 5 lbs 2. get back in the pool 3. get in a routine |
2010-01-04 9:10 AM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED My January goals are: 1) Build running and biking volumes to be ready to start 20 week HIM plan on 1/25. 2) Stay as injury free as possible 3) Keep losing weight |
2010-01-04 9:22 AM in reply to: #2591179 |
Extreme Veteran 334 Oshawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Start the 0 to 1 mile swim program (due to only 3 hour sleep last night I missed my workout this morning) Train consistantly for the month, follow my plan. |
2010-01-04 9:33 AM in reply to: #2591179 |
New user 71 Tempe | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it My January goals: 1. I want 100 yard swim to be "easy" 2. complete a metric century 3. do 30 pushups in a row |
2010-01-04 10:20 AM in reply to: #2591179 |
New user 22 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 7:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it January goals: 1. Do a 50 mile bike ride 2.Continue getting more comfortable in the water. Would like to be able to do 500yds by the end of the month. 3.Keep running injury free. |
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2010-01-04 11:31 AM in reply to: #2591179 |
Member 16 North Chelmsford | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 7:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it 1) get consistent training in 2) get up to running 5k a couple days a week 3) lose 10lbs |
2010-01-04 12:16 PM in reply to: #2591179 |
62 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it 1. Start swim training 2. Do the first few week's of Jorge's 12 week winter bike program.
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2010-01-04 12:17 PM in reply to: #2592669 |
62 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED mnardulli - 2010-01-04 12:16 PM 1. Start swim training 2. Do the first few week's of Jorge's 12 week winter bike program. 3. Increase core strength (being able to do a specific set of ab exercises I have without having to pause in between). |
2010-01-04 2:02 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Expert 834 Medina, MN | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED My swimming observation of the day: The pool where I swim has a couple organized groups that train together on various mornings with a coach on deck. Anyway, I'm pretty sure 95%+ of the people who train with these groups are triathletes. Some of them are better swimmers than others, but I'm always wondering how these big, strong, athletic people end up taking so many strokes per length. Today, I watched them a bit closer and I came to the conclusion that there are two primary reasons: 1) When their hands enter the water, very few of them glided at all, or if they did, they allowed their hand to sink down. Actually, most of them plunged their hands down into the water somewhat agressively, quickly getting their hands down 18+ inches under water, and not extending in front of them at all. 2) Very few of them finished their pulls all the way down. I'm not sure why this is, but many of them were stopping their pulls when their hands got just a bit past their waist line. The net result of this is that there were a lot of very good athletes taking 18-25 strokes a length, which makes it really difficult to swim at a good pace unless you can churn some big RPMs. Anyway, I'm not sure if any of you swim like these folks, but next time you're at the pool and warming up, make sure that when your hand enters the water that you extend and reach forward while you glide, and also that you keep your hand up within 4 to 6 inches of the surface while you're gliding, rather than letting your hand sink down. Don't pound your hand down into the water on the entry like you're reaching for coins on the bottom, but rather stretch for the wall in front of you. Also, make sure you're finishing each stroke all the way. You can check where your hand is exiting by touching your leg with your thumb as the hand comes out of the water. Compare that to where your thumb would touch your leg normally. Just a few random thoughts.... -Matt |
2010-01-04 4:34 PM in reply to: #2592978 |
New user 22 | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-01-04 3:02 PM My swimming observation of the day: The pool where I swim has a couple organized groups that train together on various mornings with a coach on deck. Anyway, I'm pretty sure 95%+ of the people who train with these groups are triathletes. Some of them are better swimmers than others, but I'm always wondering how these big, strong, athletic people end up taking so many strokes per length. Today, I watched them a bit closer and I came to the conclusion that there are two primary reasons: 1) When their hands enter the water, very few of them glided at all, or if they did, they allowed their hand to sink down. Actually, most of them plunged their hands down into the water somewhat agressively, quickly getting their hands down 18+ inches under water, and not extending in front of them at all. 2) Very few of them finished their pulls all the way down. I'm not sure why this is, but many of them were stopping their pulls when their hands got just a bit past their waist line. The net result of this is that there were a lot of very good athletes taking 18-25 strokes a length, which makes it really difficult to swim at a good pace unless you can churn some big RPMs. Anyway, I'm not sure if any of you swim like these folks, but next time you're at the pool and warming up, make sure that when your hand enters the water that you extend and reach forward while you glide, and also that you keep your hand up within 4 to 6 inches of the surface while you're gliding, rather than letting your hand sink down. Don't pound your hand down into the water on the entry like you're reaching for coins on the bottom, but rather stretch for the wall in front of you. Also, make sure you're finishing each stroke all the way. You can check where your hand is exiting by touching your leg with your thumb as the hand comes out of the water. Compare that to where your thumb would touch your leg normally. Just a few random thoughts.... -Matt Great info. Will definately be paying attention to those pointers on Wednesday morning. Thanks for the tips. |
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2010-01-04 6:55 PM in reply to: #2591179 |
Member 54 Corpus Christi, TX | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED tripletmom01 - 2010-01-03 6:02 PM OK guys- the holidays are OVER! I want your goal for the tri season and I want a or some January goals! get to it 1. decide which training plan to use (waiting for school to start so i can balance school and training) 2. be able to swim 100 yds comfortably nonstop 3. eat better |
2010-01-04 7:25 PM in reply to: #2592978 |
Master 1671 West Bend, WI | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED MLJ - 2010-01-04 2:02 PM My swimming observation of the day: The pool where I swim has a couple organized groups that train together on various mornings with a coach on deck. Anyway, I'm pretty sure 95%+ of the people who train with these groups are triathletes. Some of them are better swimmers than others, but I'm always wondering how these big, strong, athletic people end up taking so many strokes per length. Today, I watched them a bit closer and I came to the conclusion that there are two primary reasons: 1) When their hands enter the water, very few of them glided at all, or if they did, they allowed their hand to sink down. Actually, most of them plunged their hands down into the water somewhat agressively, quickly getting their hands down 18+ inches under water, and not extending in front of them at all. 2) Very few of them finished their pulls all the way down. I'm not sure why this is, but many of them were stopping their pulls when their hands got just a bit past their waist line. The net result of this is that there were a lot of very good athletes taking 18-25 strokes a length, which makes it really difficult to swim at a good pace unless you can churn some big RPMs. Anyway, I'm not sure if any of you swim like these folks, but next time you're at the pool and warming up, make sure that when your hand enters the water that you extend and reach forward while you glide, and also that you keep your hand up within 4 to 6 inches of the surface while you're gliding, rather than letting your hand sink down. Don't pound your hand down into the water on the entry like you're reaching for coins on the bottom, but rather stretch for the wall in front of you. Also, make sure you're finishing each stroke all the way. You can check where your hand is exiting by touching your leg with your thumb as the hand comes out of the water. Compare that to where your thumb would touch your leg normally. Just a few random thoughts.... -Matt
I AGREE!! lots of people do not glide...me- I glide too much I need faster stroke turn over |
2010-01-04 9:54 PM in reply to: #2557055 |
Extreme Veteran 334 Oshawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Got my core workout in tonight. First time using a fit ball, wow what a chalenge. I didn't expect it to be so hard to stabilize the ball, I guess I found some weak muscles. My goals this year: One of my main goals this season is to stick to the core workouts throughout whole season. A second goal would be to not miss my endurance sessions. I miss a few last year and that hurt my performance for my two marathons I ran. Third goal is to run the 30K race in March at under 2hr 30min. Ran it in 2:51 last year in the cold and rain, hoping for at least no rain this year. In April start my sprint training for race, yet to be determined, in June. |
2010-01-05 10:53 AM in reply to: #2593726 |
New user 8 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: tripletmom01 mentor group - CLOSED Goals for the season I started the couch to sprint program yesterday, although I did not make it the pool I did get on my treadmill for the first time in almost a year!! I was only able to run (slow jog) for 5 minutes straight and I am pretty sore today but plan to keep moving forward today with time on my bike and strength training. I want to eat better and lose weight this year I hope to be able to run a 5K in under 30 minutes! |
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